Hi lads,

just asking if you are going to paint a car solid car, ( my car is maritime blue ), can I paint it in steps? for example, today bonnet, then week after 2 mudguards etc. Will the shade of colour differ? keeping in mind that I use the same 'tin' and same ratios?

cheers mates

 

think you answerd ur own question,same tin same ratio mate

 

thankx for the reply mate. Well some people told me that the tempretaure can vary the shade, and it will not come exactly the same. i dont want the car to be multy colour lol.

 

i would paint it all at once,,

good luck with the painting

 

thankx hayley I am attending a course in panel beating and spray city and guilds, so I will use it as a learning experience too.

the problem is I dont have my own garage so one bit at a time will have to do

 

its solid colour you dont need paint al at once ,temp only makes difference to base coats mate its all painted outa same tin mixing carnt be shade out unless you dont mix the tin up proply,i did the same course but i passed all mine in a year in stead 2 as i got job straight away in big body shop

 

thankx mate for the tips!

wow really, mine is 3 years long, am only in first year!

did you have to write practicals and outcomes too??

 

,i did paint cars before i did course well land rovers ,yes did all my exams ,but as say i passed so quick caz got a job in body shop repairing cars so teachers just come out to the works ,in second year never had go collage part from few exams ,its alot quicker if you get job mate hands on best way to learn not paper work that learns you nothing part from mixing paints wouldnt care i did it for 3years same place then desided to do plumbing lol

 

cool. yep i am looking for apprentice now along with school!

 

i had my old car painted riviera blue and then got a chip on the bonnet a fortnight later and used same paint from same tin same mix etc and it was darker so i wouldnt chance it tbh

 

thats bad news lol

 

i personally would do it all at once.. solid colour or not.
but its up to you.. dingla rs probably knows better as hes dont the course
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well I would prefer to do it at once, but dont have the space can i borrow your garage? or maybe I just apply filler an dthen give it to someone else to do the finish

 

what you spraying??
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carn't a been solid colour ,unless you put the coats down different

an hayley id do it in one lump me self ,i painted cars for 15years but dont knw every thing im old skool dont do this water based crap but iv never got a different shade solid colour outa same tin

if your starting collage do ur car there its free ,i painted me rs while i was doing course

 

this junk lol







yeah i know mate, but I hate to see other students near the car, u know, comments touching etc I hate it.

 

let them say what they like plus ,it will be you that doz it as they asses your work for your course ,it makes sence ,free paint ,working booth dust free and you learn at same time ,i did my rs turbo everything bar engine bay ,ow yer you learn mix paint on scales while doin it as well lol

 

were can these courses be done and are there part time ones to be had or just full time.

 

Dont think there are part time mate. mine is full time, am loving it tbh, its 3 years though but ull get a city and guild certificate

 

yeah it would be cool! but I dont think that they will let me do it tbh.

and i know my fellow students, I hate them all bar 4 lol

 

havent see any courses in the northeats mind. Problem i have is im in a decent paying job now and couldnt really give up work to goto collage all week although bodywork is what id like to do

 

im from malta mate maybe its different! i was jumping from one shitty jo to another, and bodywork is my line. You can always check the city and guilds website mate.

 

bit to dar to travel for me lol, anyone know of any courses in the northeast? I'll have a look on city and guilds.

 

yeah fairplay, you know more about sprayin than i do lol

x

 

so any more ideas lads?

 

It'll be fine either way i reckon, as dingla rs said, chances are it will be fine unless you don't stir the paint up properly. If you can't do it all at once then try to do at least a side at a time

 

the paint SHOULD come out the same but as hayley said it CAN come out different.

Agree its normally basecoat that comes out different if ur not careful which is why alot of specialist colours companys like to do the shuts first then blow the whole car over with all the closures on ie doors etc.

End of the day if u cant do it all at once and its the same batch u should be ok, u just have to make sure that u spray at the same pressure and keep to the same distance as the pressure difference can affect how paint is atomised

 

as long as you mix the paint up proppely in the tin before adding thinners and harder you should be fine, put coat on the primmer first, cover coat, then two or three on the panel do the same on the rest colour should be mint

 

have a look at the link under my sig i repsrayed my bonus with no prior experience apart from spraying minor stuff..it took me 3 weeks mainly because i didnt work on it everyday.

i used mipa 2k paint sprayed a bumper a day/side skirts anuther day etc and it came out perfect ..but spray the body all at once! its easier that way...

 

looks nice mate, make sure u get some daylight pics though!

 

so has any one has previous experiences or ideas? thankx

 

painting it all at the same time is obviously the best option, not only for colour, but for a uniform finish aswell.

if you have no choice but to paint it in stages, i would mix the paint with thinners in one big batch so the mix is equal. then simply add a mesured amount of hardener when you want to use it. if you using 2k that is.

 

Thinners is added at the end as its a percentage of the overall mix.

 

im well aware of the usual process, i ran my own body shop for 5 years..., but you can add it before hand to ensure the colour to thinner mix is the same throughout the whole process to avoid colour mix issues. you can actually buy pre mixed paint in standard colours like diamond white, that just need hardener added..

thinner should be added to the paint to acheive the correct viscosity, it doesnt matter if its added before or after, as long as the viscosity is correct.

you dont have to be a rocket scientist to calculate how much thinner to add, so when a set ammount of hardener is added the viscosity is correct,

 

you will be fine just make sure you stir the hell out of the tin each time

 

Never heard of that in the 10 years ive run my own bodyshop

 

never heard of pre mixed paint?

im aware its not the usual process, but mixing the paint and thinner in one batch removes the risk of a different mix ratio each time, especially if you are inexperienced with the process.

i cant imagine he has mixing scales at home lol

 

Get the tin on the kitchen scales.

Would the thinners not evaporate from the tin over time changing the mix?

The solid colour i use is thinned 4:1:1 thats what it states on the tech sheet so thats the way its done.

 

thinner should ideally be added to ensure the viscosity is correct, different colours and pigments often need a different thinner amount to get the viscosity time correct, thats why mixing rooms should always be at the same temperature as this massivly effects viscosity. i cant bloody remember the standard mixing room temp, 80 degs i think

if he kept the tins sealed, im sure it would be ok for a week or so, a better option than incorrectly mixing the paint each time lol

pmsl at the kitchen scales

 

I would imagine that he's gonna have to really fuck up to get the colour badly out. Chances are it will be fine as long as it's stirred up properly.