paul johnstons mental zetec turbo (graph and pics)
12-01-2010, 09:16 PM
#41
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yeh mate 2 years ago the engine got dynod by your old man and its been sat in my shed ever since lol i bet its rusty as fuck.
just got to sort some more injectors (now on 8 inj setup), manifold, inlet o ringing and the dry sump then its back to your place for a remap and a tad more boost to see what she can do.
should be pretty soonish feb/march time
could you post the full dyno sheet jim so i can look at air temp etc and paul said that harvey recons its good for 640bhp but the injectors run out ,all 8 431cc lol
cheers paul
just got to sort some more injectors (now on 8 inj setup), manifold, inlet o ringing and the dry sump then its back to your place for a remap and a tad more boost to see what she can do.
should be pretty soonish feb/march time
could you post the full dyno sheet jim so i can look at air temp etc and paul said that harvey recons its good for 640bhp but the injectors run out ,all 8 431cc lol
cheers paul
12-01-2010, 09:52 PM
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yeh mate 2 years ago the engine got dynod by your old man and its been sat in my shed ever since lol i bet its rusty as fuck.
just got to sort some more injectors (now on 8 inj setup), manifold, inlet o ringing and the dry sump then its back to your place for a remap and a tad more boost to see what she can do.
should be pretty soonish feb/march time
could you post the full dyno sheet jim so i can look at air temp etc and paul said that harvey recons its good for 640bhp but the injectors run out ,all 8 431cc lol
cheers paul
just got to sort some more injectors (now on 8 inj setup), manifold, inlet o ringing and the dry sump then its back to your place for a remap and a tad more boost to see what she can do.
should be pretty soonish feb/march time
could you post the full dyno sheet jim so i can look at air temp etc and paul said that harvey recons its good for 640bhp but the injectors run out ,all 8 431cc lol
cheers paul
it may have made a little more, you can always squeeze that bit more with development but know one wants to blow an engine up, 570 odd bhp is good considering the problems the zetecs suffer with regarding the heads, i dont know how far it would go though tbh didnt wanna see a spark plug in the roof
12-01-2010, 10:49 PM
#53
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cool, will be good to see the difference between the two engines
it may have made a little more, you can always squeeze that bit more with development but know one wants to blow an engine up, 570 odd bhp is good considering the problems the zetecs suffer with regarding the heads, i dont know how far it would go though tbh didnt wanna see a spark plug in the roof
it may have made a little more, you can always squeeze that bit more with development but know one wants to blow an engine up, 570 odd bhp is good considering the problems the zetecs suffer with regarding the heads, i dont know how far it would go though tbh didnt wanna see a spark plug in the roof
cheers paul
12-01-2010, 11:27 PM
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Blimey....brutal power from a zetec turbo and in a fwd car will be a right handful for sure!! Be interesting to see what sprint times it can produce with that sort of power and will no doubt be good for topspeed looking at the power/torque curve 
13-01-2010, 08:18 AM
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i would just like to say thanks to all at SCS,esp harvey/jimbo
&ian howell(area six)
for the engine build,it way exceeded my expectations,esp torque figs
gonna be a handful @ brunters 
cheers paul
13-01-2010, 08:44 AM
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13-01-2010, 08:54 AM
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Think it may be a case of suck it and see
I got my crown wheel and pinion shot peened at the same time Ian got his box done to reduce the cost for us both
Shot peening is supposed to give a 15% improvement in surface strength over the virgin gear (i'm no expert, just what I read from the metal improvement company broshure).
My mate Andy Nichols has broke his gearbox 4 times now and he runs custom gears from elite who redesigned his box for him, he uses a PG1 box in his rover
I believe the Getrag 6 speed box out the ST170 is strong but how strong is the question?
The ST170 box is used in the Noble M400 and I know of a few guys running 500 to 600 bhp with uprated internals without a problem to date.
Otherwise its a Tractive FWD Sequential at 10K
I got my crown wheel and pinion shot peened at the same time Ian got his box done to reduce the cost for us both
Shot peening is supposed to give a 15% improvement in surface strength over the virgin gear (i'm no expert, just what I read from the metal improvement company broshure).
My mate Andy Nichols has broke his gearbox 4 times now and he runs custom gears from elite who redesigned his box for him, he uses a PG1 box in his rover
I believe the Getrag 6 speed box out the ST170 is strong but how strong is the question?
The ST170 box is used in the Noble M400 and I know of a few guys running 500 to 600 bhp with uprated internals without a problem to date.
Otherwise its a Tractive FWD Sequential at 10K
Last edited by AustenW; 13-01-2010 at 09:05 AM.
13-01-2010, 09:05 AM
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Think it may be a case of suck it and see
My mate Andy Nichols has broke his gearbox 4 times now and he runs custom gears from elite who redesigned his box for him, he uses a PG1 box in his roverr
I believe the Getrag 6 speed box out the ST170 is strong but how strong is the question?
The ST170 box is used in the Noble M400 and I know of a few guys running 500 to 600 bhp with uprated internals without a problem to date.
Otherwise its a Tractive Sequential at 10K
My mate Andy Nichols has broke his gearbox 4 times now and he runs custom gears from elite who redesigned his box for him, he uses a PG1 box in his roverr
I believe the Getrag 6 speed box out the ST170 is strong but how strong is the question?
The ST170 box is used in the Noble M400 and I know of a few guys running 500 to 600 bhp with uprated internals without a problem to date.
Otherwise its a Tractive Sequential at 10K
,but i suppose in the bigger picture it couldbe money well spent,eg reliability,longevity.just see what happens,
thanks again
cheers paul
13-01-2010, 09:17 AM
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http://www.tractive.se/products/fwd-...-gearboxes__20
The 5 speed sequential FWD Tractive is rated at 600NM = 442 ft/lb
The 5 speed sequential FWD Tractive is rated at 600NM = 442 ft/lb
Last edited by AustenW; 13-01-2010 at 09:32 AM.
13-01-2010, 09:19 AM
#63
http://www.tractive.se/products/fwd-...-gearboxes__20
The 5 speed sequential FWD Tractive is rated at 600NM = 442 ft/lb
The 5 speed sequential FWD Tractive is rated at 600NM = 442 ft/lb
13-01-2010, 09:31 AM
#64
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door panels out,carbon bonnet.polycarb windows.last time out
it did 9odd secs to 100 with 19s on 235/35/19 tyres.but with approx
170bhp less.what do you think it may do with same wheel/tyre combo,
topspeed.3.56 final drive.
thanks paul
13-01-2010, 09:34 AM
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i think its about 900kgs,totally stripped out,even cut all the
door panels out,carbon bonnet.polycarb windows.last time out
it did 9odd secs to 100 with 19s on 235/35/19 tyres.but with approx
170bhp less.what do you think it may do with same wheel/tyre combo,
topspeed.3.56 final drive.
thanks paul
door panels out,carbon bonnet.polycarb windows.last time out
it did 9odd secs to 100 with 19s on 235/35/19 tyres.but with approx
170bhp less.what do you think it may do with same wheel/tyre combo,
topspeed.3.56 final drive.
thanks paul
over 500bhp per tonne, properly cool
13-01-2010, 09:47 AM
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13-01-2010, 10:24 AM
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wow wot an engine- didn't expect to see getting on for 600bhp outta the zetec yet with so many people going on about head problems etc.
good luck with it once its in i can't beleive thats gonna go through the front wheels
good luck with it once its in i can't beleive thats gonna go through the front wheels
13-01-2010, 12:33 PM
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13-01-2010, 04:02 PM
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i would like to say well done to johno and the lads at scs , that is a cracking engine and when paul text me this morning he was like a little kid (and i can see why! lol).
get it back in the car as i want second go !!!
some more records are going to be broken i think.
cheers paul
get it back in the car as i want second go !!!
some more records are going to be broken i think.
cheers paul
