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Old 09-01-2010, 04:33 PM
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as above really decorating at the moment new fire place ,tv,so while ive got the chance i can put a surround system in and hide all the cables so whats a good system ,nothing to fancy ,got a 46in samsung tv so some thing to complement this would be nice

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Its like how long is a peice of string. Whats your budget? As with any decent speakers you will also need to buy an amp too.
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http://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-ent..._GSX/index.jsp
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I am not a big fan of Bose and for the money think you can get far better systems.

What do you want to spend?
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Originally Posted by rsjp
as above really decorating at the moment new fire place ,tv,so while ive got the chance i can put a surround system in and hide all the cables so whats a good system ,nothing to fancy ,got a 46in samsung tv so some thing to complement this would be nice

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i dont know what you would call "not too fancy" but ive got bose surround sound speaker and a yamaha dolby digital amplifier.

its all very discrete, all the wires hidden away and the only time you can tell its there is when its on.

all my kit is nearly 5 years old now (if not a bit older) and can still keep up with todays equipment. granted for the same amount of money you can fill a room with speakers but that isnt the point is it.

everything is crisp and clear and sound excellent. i "test drove" some other high end systems including a full bose system and to be honest i was just as impressed with the system i have now as apose to a system of 3 times the price.

ive got a bose acoustimass 6 surround system and a yamaha dsp-5 amplifier. the amp has EVERYTHING plugged into it, ps3, blu-ray, dvd, wii, tv, ipod, laptop.

most of todays cheaper systems are pretty good but in a year or two there out of date.

hope this helps.

if you have any more questions regarding this sort of thing please dont hesitate to ask.

im quite knowledgeable on how to setup etc.

p.s 6.1 and 7.1 digital systmes suck and are a waste if you ask me.
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Amp wise I would go Onkyo all the way, best value for money and will leave a nice amount for some decent speakers. I have the double cube Bose Acoustimass speakers and a Mission Sub and very pleased with the sound (dont think the neighbours are though!!!!)
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:02 PM
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i have a ROKSAN dsp surround pre-amp and krell power amps but i would guess you didnt want to spend 2K on a surround pre-amp then much more on power amps i run tannoy speakers they love to be driven and are amazingly punchy even at low levels, listen to me when i say NO-one can tell you what is the best its all down to what your ear prefers and your poket can stretch to. so get out to a few shops and get your listening head on.. good luck..
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It all depends how much you want to spend, how discrete you want it to be, whether you want a same-brand system...etc.

For the money, the Sony systems are good. A bit more gets you Harman Kardon kit.

I agree with Lee - but the problem is finding somewhere that keeps of stock of stuff. John Lewis is useful to an extent, as are Richer Sounds.

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How much you wanna spend is the answer. I could put a decent system together for about 2k including cables that would knock most peoples socks off.
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
How much you wanna spend is the answer. I could put a decent system together for about 2k including cables that would knock most peoples socks off.
i spent that just on a processor
QED cables are great.and cabling is important
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Can you get systems without cabling? I am sure I have seen them for sale using something like blutooth to talk to each other, or did I just dream it?
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Originally Posted by RAT8OY
Can you get systems without cabling? I am sure I have seen them for sale using something like blutooth to talk to each other, or did I just dream it?
if your gonna do a job, do it properley 1st time round. your budget should be about 20% just for the wiring.

my first system when i was was 16 (11 years ago) the wiring cost as much as the amp, cd player and speakers!!!

the wiring will last you a lifetime, use these for 1 make systems. marantz amp - marantz cd player etc.

richer sounds!!!!

£1k can get you a stunning system that'll blow your socks off!

bose acoustimass 6 (£550) is what im using, 5 years down the line and its still running strong.
Old 12-01-2010, 09:29 PM
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There is ABSOLUTELY no point having a wireless sound system - amps/speakers/cd-players don't run on thin air, they need power. So if you're going to run new power points for your remote wireless amps etc, why not run a line cable at the same time?

Also there is the issue of sound quality.

At audio frequencies, you will be hard-pressed to find a cable to affects frequency response even slightly (poor construction can affect noise and hence snr).

A wireless system has to fit a wide-bandwidth, wide-dynamic range signal (audio) into a narrow-bandwidth, shallow-dynamic range RF transmission. Some systems use analogue transmission, which curtail HF and LF response and compress the signal (domestic systems DON'T use decent companders to squash it then stretch it, like pro radio mics for example). Some systems are digital, which introduce noise and distortion by way of the conversion process.

If you're listening to MP3s it doesn't really matter.... If you're paying over a grand for a sound system, the quality achieved these days is high enough that you WILL notice the impact of a crappy wireless transmission system.

P.S. Blutooth can be used, but has VERY VERY bad bandwidth and dynamic range. It's designed for low-quality voice applications only.

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go for an av receiver & connect your dvd/bluray sky etc into that, either get a speaker package or chose a couple of sets you like.

i have a soft spot for Denon stuff, i have a denon AV receiver running into a set of floorstanders, bookshelf rears, small sides (if i want 7.1) and an active sub, i run bluray (ps3) xbox360, denon ipod dock & sky through it, keeps me happy (for now)
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Originally Posted by cjwood555
There is ABSOLUTELY no point having a wireless sound system - amps/speakers/cd-players don't run on thin air, they need power. So if you're going to run new power points for your remote wireless amps etc, why not run a line cable at the same time?

Also there is the issue of sound quality.

At audio frequencies, you will be hard-pressed to find a cable to affects frequency response even slightly (poor construction can affect noise and hence snr).

A wireless system has to fit a wide-bandwidth, wide-dynamic range signal (audio) into a narrow-bandwidth, shallow-dynamic range RF transmission. Some systems use analogue transmission, which curtail HF and LF response and compress the signal (domestic systems DON'T use decent companders to squash it then stretch it, like pro radio mics for example). Some systems are digital, which introduce noise and distortion by way of the conversion process.

If you're listening to MP3s it doesn't really matter.... If you're paying over a grand for a sound system, the quality achieved these days is high enough that you WILL notice the impact of a crappy wireless transmission system.

P.S. Blutooth can be used, but has VERY VERY bad bandwidth and dynamic range. It's designed for low-quality voice applications only.

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Originally Posted by biglee
i spent that just on a processor
QED cables are great.and cabling is important
Totally agree, you can spend a fortune, or £150 on a crappy 'surround sound' package from Argos, I just mentioned that for £2k you could build a system that would knock 95% of peoples socks off, as most dont know what they're listening to!

Personally I have a two channel ( stereo ) set up with a high quality 10" sub and it sounds 100 times better than most peoples 'surround' sound that i've heard as it's quality stuff, with quality cables/connectors, and well set up.
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