Wire rung block???
#2
i thinks its old school now you dont see many tuners doing it
its basicaly a circle machined around the cylinders and some wire then sits in there, when the head is torqued up its cuts into the head gasket and was ment to hold it together abit better, for high boost etc
had this on my zvh engine a few years ago, was a right pain when i had to change the headgasket
its basicaly a circle machined around the cylinders and some wire then sits in there, when the head is torqued up its cuts into the head gasket and was ment to hold it together abit better, for high boost etc
had this on my zvh engine a few years ago, was a right pain when i had to change the headgasket
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my old s2 block was wire rung, its when the surface of the block get grooved and wire normally welding wire goes around making a tighter seal between the head and the block, apparently improving head gasket life but im sure people of here will dissagree,
#6
same with coopers rings. similar idea.
at the time these things worked but times have moved on and a good multilayer metal gasket and decent head fastenings are readily available for most applications now.
at the time these things worked but times have moved on and a good multilayer metal gasket and decent head fastenings are readily available for most applications now.
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#10
had no experience with wire ringing and to be honest didnt know the best way to do it, although when i did it the second time i used a stanley blade and it was alot easier
#16
Its my 200 block for sale which is wire rung.It came from ford motorsport like that and it doesnt have to be machined out as the grooves are in a couple off mm and any cosworth headgasket covers them up.
#17
is'nt cooper rings and wire rung different?
cooper rings come right to the edge of the bore and wire run is about a couple of mm off the edge. am i correct?
do any tuners still use cooper rings? what power are they good for?
cooper rings come right to the edge of the bore and wire run is about a couple of mm off the edge. am i correct?
do any tuners still use cooper rings? what power are they good for?
#20
the cooper head gasket is totally differant its a grove that is about 3or 4mm wide & 1 or 1.5 mm deep going right into the cylinder. the head gasket has no fire ring in them & you get a seperate hollow crushable fire ring that sits in the groove
there good but i done my cooper ring head gasket when i used to run 40+psi on a t4 i done all 4 cylinders if i could get rid of them i would but the groove is so big you would have to machine the pistons as well to keep the original compression ratio
hope this helps
#23
yes they are differant the wire rung one you could use a standard head gasket to get a real good seal with the .5mm welding wire
the cooper head gasket is totally differant its a grove that is about 3or 4mm wide & 1 or 1.5 mm deep going right into the cylinder. the head gasket has no fire ring in them & you get a seperate hollow crushable fire ring that sits in the groove
there good but i done my cooper ring head gasket when i used to run 40+psi on a t4 i done all 4 cylinders if i could get rid of them i would but the groove is so big you would have to machine the pistons as well to keep the original compression ratio
hope this helps
the cooper head gasket is totally differant its a grove that is about 3or 4mm wide & 1 or 1.5 mm deep going right into the cylinder. the head gasket has no fire ring in them & you get a seperate hollow crushable fire ring that sits in the groove
there good but i done my cooper ring head gasket when i used to run 40+psi on a t4 i done all 4 cylinders if i could get rid of them i would but the groove is so big you would have to machine the pistons as well to keep the original compression ratio
hope this helps
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The coopers ring gaskets are crap unless you pay for a proper one from grahm goode,approx £350.My mates sapphire keeps blowing them on a t4 and 8 greens so hes moving to a wrc gasket and machineing the block down.
The wrc gasket can be used over the top of the wire rings thats what i was going to do with it as i didnt fancy the wire rings.
The wrc gasket can be used over the top of the wire rings thats what i was going to do with it as i didnt fancy the wire rings.
#34
Is the car yours now then, thought it was ur dads?! From memory its best to change the wire as obviously clamping down the headgasket which has a metal fire ring will compress the wire....... but then all depends how much power ur running i guess.
Once upon a time it was cheaper to wire ring a fit a group a headgasket, think i was quote about £150 a few years back, but wrc spec multilayer ones are so cheap now thats why most people dont bother!!!
#35
Is the car yours now then, thought it was ur dads?! From memory its best to change the wire as obviously clamping down the headgasket which has a metal fire ring will compress the wire....... but then all depends how much power ur running i guess.
Once upon a time it was cheaper to wire ring a fit a group a headgasket, think i was quote about £150 a few years back, but wrc spec multilayer ones are so cheap now thats why most people dont bother!!!
Once upon a time it was cheaper to wire ring a fit a group a headgasket, think i was quote about £150 a few years back, but wrc spec multilayer ones are so cheap now thats why most people dont bother!!!
That's the exact reason we did it back in the day Tony, nail on the head
#36
The coopers ring gaskets are crap unless you pay for a proper one from grahm goode,approx £350.My mates sapphire keeps blowing them on a t4 and 8 greens so hes moving to a wrc gasket and machineing the block down.
The wrc gasket can be used over the top of the wire rings thats what i was going to do with it as i didnt fancy the wire rings.
The wrc gasket can be used over the top of the wire rings thats what i was going to do with it as i didnt fancy the wire rings.
#37
Yea i was gonna get matt a qep to do mine a few years back but then he stopped doing it all and nick who owns the engine work side doesnt do hardly any building or block work, plus the place doing it before nearly fucked the block trying so got fed up with getting it done
i managed to get a victor reinz wrc spec miltilayer one cheap so used it instead and head and block were both skimmed so was fine to use!!
#38
Nah not really lol, but i'm the one spending the money on it these days!
Yeah Matt did ours I thought Nick would still do it though...but yeah these days WRC gaskets aren't £300 or £400
Not good they nearly fucked up trying
Yeah Matt did ours I thought Nick would still do it though...but yeah these days WRC gaskets aren't £300 or £400
Not good they nearly fucked up trying
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