tjRS500

was on ebay there now and its umbelievable how cheap v8s are going for especially range rovers v8s

just wondering what would be involved in fitting lets say a range rover v8 into a 3 door sierra fabrication and parts etc........or is it even possible???hahah)

Mark V8

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I did it a few years back with a kit of parts from Auto Power Services who later changed their name to Magnum Engineering.

The kit came with engine mounts
Sump
Adapted Rover bell housing to fit a T5 (Rover boxes are crap)
Anti roll bar drop mounts which were not needed with a Cossie ARB
Crank spigot bearing (Reamed out Rover one to suit T5)
Exhaust manifolds.

The manifolds were crap and I sent them back and made my own, apart from this it's a nut and bolt job with the kit.

If you can find a TVT Rover to T5 bell housing it would save some agro.

Mark

ajamesc

why bother lol yank shit just fit a yb with 350 up it!

rsnissan

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sierras came with 5 litre V8's as standard so it shouldnt be too hard

tjRS500

is that the 302 block?

rsnissan

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yes, XR8

tjRS500

that wasnt a small block was it?
what gearbox did it run?

kev 3dr

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Yes dont bother with a Rover V8 go for either a Ford 302/5.0 as these are similar size to the rover V8 but parts alot cheaper direct from the states or slightly dearer to buy a 351 Chevy SBC or mouse motor (small block chevy) but make sure its a 4 bolt mains version parts are same rough price as the SBF(small block Ford) and both if built right will Rev to 7000 and produce 500 bhp

kev 3dr

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yes it was the small block with a non world class T5 straight out the mustang

Twellsie

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because if for example you used the M62 engine found in Range Rovers, BMW 540, 740's and X5 you can get a 300bhp V8 for less than 2k

tjRS500

theres a 4.6 mustang v8 with tremac 5 speed on ebay with a starting bid of Ł750!!

would this be an easy engine to fit??

bj928

why bother with a 5.0/302 built with all the right bits and full twin turbo 750bhp+ for about Ł3-4k, i'd much sooner have a crap 2.0 with 350 bhp!!!!!!!

rotating assembly Ł860

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBF-3...Q5fCarQ5fParts

twin turbo full kit including turbos and intercooler Ł780

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-...Q5fAccessories

tjRS500

any cheap suppliers of ford 302s in the uk??

Twellsie

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http://www.realsteel.co.uk/

kev 3dr

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Real Steel = not cheap in my opinion sorry !!! get a basic engine/block over here and import everything especially when exchange rate is right !!!

I brought back a pair of aluminium GT40 heads back the other year as my hand luggage pmsl !!

Mark V8

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If you're doing it on a budget and want to go round corners stay away from the small block Chevy, it's much heavier than the 302 small block Ford
The 351 small block Ford is also a fair bit heavier.

XR8 engine bay pic



I bought a complete 5 litre Thunderbird for Ł300 (through a free adds paper)
Most of it got thrown away but it was a good price for a mint roller cam bottom end.



Mark

Mark V8

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If you have driven a 350 bhp V8 you would know why

Mark

focusv8

Not forgetting the Shipping, Import duty and VAT on those figures.

Buy a CUT OUT from Real Steel and put that in first.
Then go for a built 5.0 later.

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bj928

i did my homework and have a contact with a container of cars coming in a few times a year so shipping not an issue, duty and vat not bad, you just get the main parts from America and build over here.

if 750hp+ isn't enough,how about a short block 5.4 modular (same as the ford GT40 or GT500 mustang) for Ł3.5k+shipping/vat/duty, rated at 1500hp-2000hp!!!!!, getting all the right bits your could build a twin turbo 5.4 32v v8 including all duty/vat and shipping for about Ł10k http://www.modularmustangracing.com/...hortblocks.htm

focusv8

Modular engine is very wide, I doubt it would be an easy fit in a Sierra.

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bj928

it does fit, seen photos, but your right, its very wide, a 302/5.0 would be much easier.

Northants Ford Fan

anyone know the rough dimensions of the 302v8 and what they weigh ?

tjRS500

thanks

tjRS500

would a 460 big block be stretching it a bit??ahahha

bj928

ford racing list it as 27.5 inches front pulley to rear face, 20.25 inches tall sump to highest point, and 18.75 inches wide at its widest point, adding exhausts won't add much if you get huggers, T5 is standard manual box for the back so sierra cosworth gearbox crossmember should fit that, loads of sumps available so one that misses crossmember should be off the shelf, all you need is engine mounts, and they are probably off the shelf for the xr4ti's being converted.

here is a conversion that will interest some, its a 302 v8 twin turbo 4x4 using t56, and all in a sierra xr4ti or xr4i to us over here, it has the 8.8 axle fitted as well.http://home.comcast.net/~xr4x4ti/V8_AWD_Pictures.htm

Glenn_

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i love v8 engines they sound mint. What bhp do the xr8 produce.

POPEYE

Not a lot

tjRS500

302 blocks are 300 bhp and roughly the same torque

what loom will i have to use for the transplant will i have to change the sierras??

tjRS500

where can i buy engine mounts for a 302 5.0 into a sierra 3 door?

would a standard cosworth differential be able to cope with power? or will it need uprated

Fastmaul

I'll get you some info on what the guys do here to the Merkurs (Sierra XR4) to put in the V8's. I have a mate who makes kits.

tjRS500

did the xr8 not use standard sierra mounts for the 302??

grve66

I installed a LS2 in a Xr4ti across the pond...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8fqFHNfEBM

Martin-Hadland

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Sumps don't lend themselves very well to conversions and they're not the cheapest engines for future tuning. I have one here with a 6 speed box but decided against using it.

CosworthGuy

if you still want to use rover type stuff use the tvr v8. They are above 300bhp i think and go well. Got a mate with one it a land rover 90 and its quick

martysmartie

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The same as a YB, 225HP but more torque.

As to your question ask Tabetha on here, as he has done a RV8 conversion on a 4I.

Edward Turner Hemi V8 is also has been done.

Martin

Glenn_

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Sweet thanks for that. Thats the thing with V8's they normaly have loads of torque.

Mark V8

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Ford 302 fits the engine bay quite nicely.

Pic of mine mocked up with some shiney bits on top, headers are going to be a bit tight on the drivers side because of the steering column.



Mark

xr4x4rs

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you not going to carry on with the 4wd conversion mark

Mark V8

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No mate, I'm keeping it simple this time !

Mark

xr4x4rs

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but you were so close lol