Mike C

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Is it just me that can't help but have a little chuckle at the Big Brother threads where people seem to be banging on about how Vinnie Jones is the only "big star" in there and is head and shoulders above the rest?

Fair enough, he has enough of a following to be the clear favourite I should think, but he was a second rate footballer, a second rate hard man and now he's a second rate actor.

At best!

FPMSL @ everyone who thinks he's Maradona, Tyson and Al Pacino rolled into one!

Csm

What makes you think he is a second rate hardman tho ?

cossiejay

i think the guy is spot on and he has made a success with his life i wish i was in his shoes

danneth

i personally think hes awesome, like his hardman act and like him as an actor... to say hes second rate at everything i bet his fame and bank balance would blow you away

Mike C

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So would most other second rate celebrities though.....

charlie luciano

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all from someone who supports Wolverhampton who

had a reputation as a dirty player out on the pitch, and has taken that to the silver screen, acting as a hoodlum in various films, nothing wrong with that, I don't think landing a role along side Nicolas Cage is 2nd rate nor do I think he is a 2nd rate hardman, he was just a bit of a lad out on the pitch


Luciano

It's Czech Mate

Still played for Chelsea and won an FA cup with Wimbledon against arguably the strongest Liverpool team for 20 years

Hardly a second rate footballer. Whole career in the top flight and an international.

Jealousy is a terrible thing

matts1

I think he has done well for himself, seems like a nice enough bloke.

Maybe he aint the best at anything he has done, but carved a pretty good life out of it.

Kelv

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Fully agree.

he is a far superior level of celebrity than the others in there.
i think his character and personality will keep him in there alot longer than the most, and possibly a strong contender from the word go at being a winner.

time will tell tho i guess, as i agree that everyone has a different opinion on these subjects.

stevos

I like vinny jones but to be honest he cant have much money left if he has had to go on a show like big brother.

steviecossie

He's probably doing it for publicity for his new films that are coming out

danneth

he was worth about 10mill in 2008 so i dont think he will have ran out yet

"A 26-STONE pool player punched by Vinnie Jones claims the former Wales football star came at him like a pitbull.

He’s a fair-size guy, and he put all his weight behind those punches. I felt like I was getting hit by a juggernaut. He just came running towards me and punched me directly in the mouth"

dojj

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he's a "loveable rogue" and that's why he's become so popular

hardly second rate at being a footballerist or in the acting stakes (unless you count his stint in x3 )

dojj

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also think that the second biggest name in there is steven baldwin as the rest are, to my eyes, has beens and washed ups

joel_winders

nice bloke, did you hear that he gave all of his fee for lock stock & 2 smoking barrels to the hospital where his wife was being treated at the time of filming !

Mike C

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I agree entirely. I'm not knocking the bloke for what he's achieved. Just don't get why people are perceiving him as some kind of god and so far above a bunch of other people who have done pretty well in their own field.

He's done well, but he ain't no A-Lister!

And Dojj, he was on the list as one of the 50 worst players ever to play in the Premiership. He was never a great player...

Porkie

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Won FA Cup and played international football

and was in a film with Angelina Jolie...

and made my fav ever film 'Snatch' with Brad pitt... amazing film.

FOOKING LEGEND if you ask me!

It's Czech Mate

Utter ballbag

Benni

Second rate hard man? He would fuck most of us up on this forum. He's a complete legend.

Benni.

Chip

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Well if he was in a list in the tabloids it MUST be true :cry


Fucking mentality of some people on here amazes me!

dojj

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but how many peole pla in the premiership?
it's lke being the worst f1 driver in the history of f1 drivers, at least you've reached the pinicale of the levels you can participate in a sport, and that's something that millions and millions of peole can only dream about, or comparing the poorest millionare on the planet
so he's done alright there

It's Czech Mate

I might make a list of the 50 biggest cunts on here, and if i publish it, it MUST be true.

It's Czech Mate

Dojj, its not even that, he's miles better than loads of Prem players!

13 continuous years in the top flight and captain of your country is not in the bottom 50 by a fucking long way

dojj

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it might just be the way that mike has interpreted the findings then

Benni

Those lists are more accurate than I first thought.

Benni.

Mike C

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Yes, he played for Chelsea when they were a mediocre mid-table team...

He won the FA cup with Wimbledon, probably the biggest shock in FA cup history, what does that tell you about one player? Not a great deal really.

Liverpool did well in the Premiership last season, so that must mean Lucas is a great footballer.....

He was VOTED into the 50 worst by fans.

And when an ENGLISHMAN plays for WALES, that usually tells you one thing. (Admittedly there have been obvious exceptions).

And when you play for Wales and only get a handful of caps, lets face it, you can't exactly be all that great can you?

Mike C

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That's by the by.

I'm not knocking him for his football career, he worked hard to get to the top flight. I'm simply pointing out that he was nothing special as a player. Certainly not top class.

I'm not saying he's an awful actor. But he's not certainly not A-List.

He made a wise choice getting out of football when he did and carving out a new career.

I just don't know why people think he's so much better than other "celebrities". He's just a bloke who's done alright for himself in football and acting. He's not the Messiah....

It's Czech Mate

Clearly you know fuck all about football.

Look at the managers he played under during 13 years in the top tier of football

As if being voted in the bottom 50 by fans means fuck all, I'll bet nobody that voted even knows a full list of players who've played in the Prem

It's the shittest possible statistic to quote and one that is TOTALY incorrect.

I'm not saying he was a great player but no fucking way is he in the bottom 50 Prem Players ever


Wolves alone must have played 50 shitter players in their attempts at the Prem

Mike C

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I quoted a statistic that is NOT incorrect. You may not agree with it, and to be honest, neither do I. He's not one of the 50 worst to play in the Premiership IMO. But IMO he'd be in the bottom half of all the players to play in the Premiership.

It's Czech Mate

That does NOT make him

If you consider how many people competitively play football It makes him one of the better ones

Pob

He's been in over 50 films, second rate or not.

Mike C

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Just in case anyone is interested, it was actually the 50 worst players to play in the top flight since 1970, so far broader than just the Premiership years.

He is at number 10

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2025420.ece

Mike C

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But that's not the point I was getting at in this thread. I'm not knocking the man, I just don't see why he's THAT much more of a celebrity than the others. He's just a bloke who'd done well for himself...

Shredtheibanez

He must be running low on cash though... why would he appear on big brother? Hes like the last person i'd say would go on it! Plus, he don't need any more fame, nearly everyone in the world has heard of vinnie, such a well known celeb.

dojj

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so hardly every single player ever in the league since the 70's eh, just the supporters of teams who have been in the top flight for the past 40 years who remember some names


bet there are some real mediocre players who didn't even get a mention

cossiejay

[quote=stevos;4622536]I like vinny jones but to be honest he cant have much money left if he has had to go on a show like big brother.the guy is a star

milesy23rst

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And who are you to judge him as a 2nd rate footballer, a 2nd rate hard man, and a 2nd rate actor??? and if what you said isn't slating the fella then i dont know what is!!!!
I think you have got a cheek and should keep your slating opinions to yourself, and imo i think he is a top bloke at acting and everything else.

dazoriginal

he's the highest paid in there he will pocket a whopping £350,000

Chip

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I guess I will never see another advert for Coca Cola or Mcdonalds ever again once you set up a marketting agency and take over the world with your expert knowledge

After all, everyone knows what they are anyway, lol

Red16