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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone on here has experience of using eagle H beam rods in a zetec turbo at all?
I have come accross a set for very good money so wondered if they are rated well?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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As far as I know they are amongst the best. Simon Smail at Sitech racing specced my zetec turbo with them and he said they will be good for almost 400bhp.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Eagle amongst the best.... i wouldnt go as far as saying that. Measure them and weigh them before you do anything.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Eagle amongst the best.... i wouldnt go as far as saying that. Measure them and weigh them before you do anything.
The Eagle rods I have used in the past have all been perfectly on spec size wise, no problems at all.

Lots and lots of people putting them in Zetec and Evo engines everyday, dont worry about it unless youre going for a monster power build, and if you are you wouldnt be putting budget rods in it anyway!
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Red16
The Eagle rods I have used in the past have all been perfectly on spec size wise, no problems at all.

Lots and lots of people putting them in Zetec and Evo engines everyday, dont worry about it unless youre going for a monster power build, and if you are you wouldnt be putting budget rods in it anyway!
+1 there fine for most people but far from the best lol.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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what are peoples views on farndon rods??
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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prob one of the best are farndon.....also arrow are mega
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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if you are building a big a spec zetec and want the best why no use wrc focus rods ??? good for 700ftlbs im told
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
if you are building a big a spec zetec and want the best why no use wrc focus rods ??? good for 700ftlbs im told
do you know where you can get hold of them from gary?
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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do you know where you can get hold of them from gary?
jamie at jamsport had a few sets the last time i was talking to him mate
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
jamie at jamsport had a few sets the last time i was talking to him mate
cheers mate ,very pricy i take it.what make are they do you know?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by creator
cheers mate ,very pricy i take it.what make are they do you know?
cosworth mate .
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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cheers mate thought they were,iv been looking at them and farndon and arrow rods all simlar prices.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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So for a budget, semi powerfull zetec then they are worth a look but if you want mega power spend more.
I want a reliable 350bhp so are they gona be any use?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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yeah mate they will stand up to a good 350bhp i belive thats what crazycage runs in his and his has been well over 300bhp for some time and now going for 400 i belive so yeah will defo be fine mate
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yeah mate they will stand up to a good 350bhp i belive thats what crazycage runs in his and his has been well over 300bhp for some time and now going for 400 i belive so yeah will defo be fine mate
they will be fine and good upto 500hp im told !! but i dont run them i run the wrc focus rods


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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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oh right sorry mate thought you was running the eagle rods. did you get them wrc ones from jamie then gary?
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Originally Posted by creator
oh right sorry mate thought you was running the eagle rods. did you get them wrc ones from jamie then gary?
tbh mate jamie built the bottom end for me
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
tbh mate jamie built the bottom end for me
ah right mate,also are you still using ford bearings or are you using acl or something like that? duno what to put in mine been told ford are the best to use
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ah right mate,also are you still using ford bearings or are you using acl or something like that? duno what to put in mine been told ford are the best to use
yes mate acl ,ford st170 head gasket and head bolts tho.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
yes mate acl ,ford st170 head gasket and head bolts tho.
cheers mate,probly look into getting some then
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I use the current engine eagle rods ...
there was no trouble with it..(600+BHP)
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
I use the current engine eagle rods ...
there was no trouble with it..(600+BHP)
there you go mate good at 600+bhp and cheap as chips .about Ł250.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
there you go mate good at 600+bhp and cheap as chips .about Ł250.
so $ 370 plus shipping...
other component that fails will be faster than rods ...
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
so $ 370 plus shipping...
other component that fails will be faster than rods ...
yes oil pumps lol
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Yes

yes that's what I'm saying.....



I had two..

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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
yes that's what I'm saying.....



I had two..

out of interest what sort of revs are you doing ?? i keep mine down to 7200 and had no probs but mine is just a road car ,on your videos it sounds like your pulling near 9k
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The problems started 7800RPM...(me)
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
The problems started 7800RPM...(me)
are you still runing ford oil pumps or are you on dry sump now mate?
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Originally Posted by creator
are you still runing ford oil pumps or are you on dry sump now mate?
now run dry sump....
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
now run dry sump....
nice one mate,wich dry sump kit did you buy? if you dont mind me asking?.
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nice one mate,wich dry sump kit did you buy? if you dont mind me asking?.
same as lucas
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Originally Posted by crazycage
same as lucas
cheers gary,titan i think it is then.everytime iv tried to ring them,there has never been any tech or sale staff there lol.
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Originally Posted by creator
cheers gary,titan i think it is then.everytime iv tried to ring them,there has never been any tech or sale staff there lol.
why not just keep the standard pump and limit the revs to 7200 you wont have a prob there .the st170 rev limit is 7200 from fords .
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Originally Posted by creator
nice one mate,wich dry sump kit did you buy? if you dont mind me asking?.
I bought Titan kit.
but I think there is little pump (work properly anyway, only no vacum in the crankcase)
600 + BHP should be more volume...
I sell this pump
and I bought a big....
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Originally Posted by crazycage
why not just keep the standard pump and limit the revs to 7200 you wont have a prob there .the st170 rev limit is 7200 from fords .
well i was thinking with a big turbo gona need the higher revs for it to really benifit arnt i?
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
I bought Titan kit.
but I think there is little pump (work properly anyway, only no vacum in the crankcase)
600 + BHP should be more volume...
I sell this pump
and I bought a big....
sounds like a very nice set up mate.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
why not just keep the standard pump and limit the revs to 7200 you wont have a prob there .the st170 rev limit is 7200 from fords .
if you need more power will be increased RPM...
If you do not want engine breaking..
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Originally Posted by szabyk RST
if you need more power will be increased RPM...
If you do not want engine breaking..
yes i know mate but i dont think creator is building a 600hp monster like yours
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