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Old 28-09-2009 | 01:35 PM
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Is that why he needs so many condoms??? he needs to shoot his load 3 or 4 times before his missus comes???
Old 28-09-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
so Fuzzy ,when you kids grow up and find out you have not loved your wife for years how would they feel ?

we both let things out the door, but I am sure my kids will be broad minded enough to understand.
its not a case of your kids being broadminded enough but the other kids and parents being broadminded enough not to make your kids daily school lives hell with the tormenting that kids will do with this sort of ammo when they come across(not litrally) pictures of your wife/their mum getting shagged by who ever.
and its not a case of being sexually repressed, but doing what you want behind closed doors and not feel the need to tell the outside world all about it.all your doing is making your kids a target for future bullying. things have a habit of turning up when you least want or expect it.
i might not care for my kids mum but i used to and i wouldnt wish her any harm, its not bitter just fizzled out but i put my personal happiness behind that of my kids, as long as they are happy then its all good as thats all that matters.
it makes no difference what you do with whom or how many , whatever turns you and your wife on but id be wary of letting everyone else know so much about it.

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Old 28-09-2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
Is that why he needs so many condoms??? he needs to shoot his load 3 or 4 times before his missus comes???
Or she fakes it so he thinks she's come before him, somewhere in that magical 2 minute window of opportunity.
Old 28-09-2009 | 01:54 PM
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The fact is that to some people, being gay is as alien as being a kiddy fiddler, so that they no longer want to be his mate isn't that surprising. Not right or wrong but understandable.
Old 28-09-2009 | 01:57 PM
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I have a few gay/lesbian friends, one of which is my sister, i have no issue with gay/lesbians what so ever, i have also been out to gay bars and everytime had an excellent night out, the atmosphere is much more relaxed and ya dont get the fighting attitude ya get when ya to a straight place!

One your mates friends have taken it all in, they will realise that he is the same person that they know and love, and will accept him for who he is!

well done to your mate for being brave enough to come out in the first place!

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
its not a case of your kids being broadminded enough but the other kids and parents being broadminded enough not to make your kids daily school lives hell with the tormenting that kids will do with this sort of ammo when they come across(not litrally) pictures of your wife/their mum getting shagged by who ever.
The age at which kids should have access to such pornographic material is the age at which they will understand whats going on anyway!!! They might cringe at knowing mummy takes loads of mens cock in all holes but secretly theyd be wishing theyd meet a girl who takes it all ways as much as they can get so it wouldnt be that bad reallllyyyyyy.

Considering the number of mums who ARE genuine CHAV sluts out there then im sure any child of Johnys would have plenty of dirt to sling right back at them. I know if I was 12/3 in a few years there would be plenty of dirt to sling at all those bullys as mostly they will have a fucked up background. Not to forget these days a lot of kids are sexually active as young as 13 and theres plenty of 13/14 year old mums so that leaves the average 13/14 year old boy probably going to fancy the young mum of some of his school mates a new meaning to MILF and probably far more of a kick in the teeth than knowing your mum does swinging! I imagine most kids would be mortified to know school mates want to fuck your mum all the "your mums fit", your mum sucked my cock last night" type jaunts. With swinging its a bit of a "so what" these days. Where as being a teen mum is the new taboo!!!

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Old 28-09-2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
The age at which kids should have access to such pornographic material is the age at which they will understand whats going on anyway!!! They might cringe at knowing mummy takes loads of mens cock in all holes but secretly theyd be wishing theyd meet a girl who takes it all ways as much as they can get so it wouldnt be that bad reallllyyyyyy.
Big difference between a bird that does all sorts, and a bird who does so with lots of different people, one is just sexually adventurous and monogonous and one is promiscuous / a slut.


that leaves the average 13/14 year old boy probably going to fancy the young mum of some of his school mates a new meaning to MILF
Surely thats not a new meaning to the term milf?
Thats the original meaning, as per american pie, its one of your mates mums that you want to fuck?
Old 28-09-2009 | 02:35 PM
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the big difference is the fact that its your mum.not some random pic of the internet but your own mum. and everyone local knows with the pics getting passed around.
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I don't think slut(may be male or female) is the correct word in swinging circles. A slut is a person who fuckes anything and has no rules or makes sure she/he is protected.


Warren understands I can see that, but for some reason chip cannot see it.


We are enjoying life to the full and not hurting anybody doing it. You can make the coment that what about my kids, yes there is a odd pick on a FORD forum and it very unlikly it will hit the play ground.

Lets just say if you joined the biggest swinging sites and do a location search you will be surpised what you will find. its getting more and more common.

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Old 28-09-2009 | 02:43 PM
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Wow this thread has been a real eye opener
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I don't think slut(may be male or female) is the correct word in swinging circles. A slut is a person who fuckes anything and has no rules or makes sure she/he is protected.


Warren understands I can see that, but for some reason chip cannot see it.
Im not in swinging circles, and neither are most of the kids in your child's playground probably, so you are correct that I dont see someone who gets fucked / gagged / buggered by a continual stream of different men as not being a slut just because they happen to be a swinger too.


To me a slut (i dont really like the term TBH as its more derogatory than I intend it to sound) or promiscuous person is someone who has a lot of sex with different partners, I dont see that it makes any difference at all that in a swap you also happen to be fucking someone else at the same time as your partner is doing so, either way you are both being promiscuous IMHO

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Originally Posted by Chip
Im not in swinging circles, and neither are most of the kids in your child's playground probably.

To me a slut (i dont really like the term TBH as its more derogatory than I intend it to sound) or promiscuous person is someone who has a lot of sex with different partners, I dont see that it makes any difference at all that in a swap you also happen to be fucking someone else at the same time as your partner is doing so, either way you are both being promiscuous IMHO
totaaly agree ere. using protection doesnt mean ure not 'promiscuous'
Old 28-09-2009 | 02:50 PM
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according to chambers dictionary a slut is defined as a woman who has many casual sexual relationships.simple as that.
the particular choice of which words are used isnt really anything to bother about.

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yes, and it doesnt matter if its with with protection or not.
Old 28-09-2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
according to chambers dictionary a slut is defined as a woman who has many casual sexual relationships.
Exactly!
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Originally Posted by Chip
Im not in swinging circles, and neither are most of the kids in your child's playground probably, so you are correct that I dont see someone who gets fucked / gagged / buggered by a continual stream of different men as not being a slut just because they happen to be a swinger to
We go out once a month and somtimes we don't even play, so lets just say we swap 10 times this year(not much more than that we enjoy the social side more and we don't meet a couple we want to fuck that often)

Chip I would say your more of a slut than we are as I bet you more differant partners than we do.

But then again your fat and a crome dome, so even though you are single 10 differant shags a year may be a little tricky for you. lol
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yes but hes single an ya married
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AND?

I am not cheating on my Mrs and she is not cheating on me.!
Old 28-09-2009 | 03:05 PM
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i will post a big post when i get home about the villigers choping up mincing queeny type folk lol!
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johnys taking way tn much stick on this thread
Old 28-09-2009 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
We go out once a month and somtimes we don't even play, so lets just say we swap 10 times this year(not much more than that we enjoy the social side more and we don't meet a couple we want to fuck that often)
10 different partners a year is still pretty slutty in most people's opinions probably.


Chip I would say your more of a slut than we are as I bet you more differant partners than we do.
At some points in my life I probably have been, have certainly been through more than 10 different birds in a year before anyway.

But then again your fat
Not really any more mate, down to 14 stone now (was 15 stone 9), you probably havent seen a very recent picture I guess?

and a crome dome
I sure am, although that doesnt really seem to bother many birds TBH

so even though you are single
Im not married but am in a relationship at the moment, so depends if you refer to having a girlfriend as being single or not?

10 differant shags a year may be a little tricky for you. lol
Bird im with currently isnt into 3somes and im not into being unfaithful, so yes it would be very tricky currently.
Old 28-09-2009 | 03:14 PM
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Jonnys partner is not cheating on him, She would be a slut if she was picking anything up for a shag, but its all done with both their concent. And double teaming a girl aint gay, Unless you enjoy someones balls touching yours

anyway fair play to jonny, As him and his Mrs are obviously open about their sexual needs/desires/fantasys etc and mnost couples never even aproach this topic.
Old 28-09-2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis
Jonnys partner is not cheating on him
Of course not, its only cheating if you do something the other doesnt approve of.


She would be a slut if she was picking anything up for a shag, but its all done with both their concent.
The fact someone else says its ok for you to fuck 10 different other blokes a year doesnt stop it being slutty to do so. IMHO
Dont take that as me having a go, im not, I quite like sluts, they arae one of this countries best natural resources just wouldnt want to marry one personally.


anyway fair play to jonny, As him and his Mrs are obviously open about their sexual needs/desires/fantasys etc and mnost couples never even aproach this topic.
People arent critising him for what him and his mrs does, they are consenting adults and she can have as many different cocks up her arse as she wants without it bothering anyone else im sure, Fuzzy's concern was merely centred round the pictures of his mrs doing it and the fact that his kid will get bullied for it if their playground pals find out.

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Old 28-09-2009 | 03:19 PM
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From my oxford dictionary:

Slut a slovenly promiscuous woman.

looking deeper, slovenly means untidy/dirty careless/excessively casual.

promiscuous means characterised by many transient sexual relationships or indescriminate/unselective.

Naomi certainly isnt slovenly!

And from what i understand about swinging circles, the sex is hardly indescriminate/unselective. in fact people are very selective as i understand, because just like any other sex act you still need to be attracted to the person your fucking.

I dont think many of the swinging partners are that transient either. sure some are but from what Johnnys posted on here there are regulars and favourites etc.

So i doubt they fit the definition of promiscuous either (although that is subjective but IMO in modern britain they arent promiscuos).

So that kind of blows the slut thing out the water
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But then again your fat and a crome dome, so even though you are single 10 differant shags a year may be a little tricky for you. lol
cutting!! for chip methinks!! Any sex is better than no sex and im damned sure johnny makes sure he has great sex most the time!!!!

Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Warren understands I can see that, but for some reason chip cannot see it.
Although ive never tried swinging, i can see your perspective and im quite open minded. Chip has quite strong opinions on the matter and is clearly loosing objectivity and therefore unable to see anyones perspective other than his own. I would have expected better off a psychology graduate!

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Wow this thread has been a real eye opener
ive got to go give a training session shortly on "Signposting Young People to Contraception and Sexual Health" imagine how much of a burk i will feel if i get tongue twisted and say something from this thread

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the other kids will be too busy wanking over the pictures to bully his kids
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Originally Posted by Chip
just wouldnt want to marry one personally.
I think you will find swinging actually makes them a stronger couple and probably contributes to why they are still together Where as many a marriage breaks up due to men who cant satisfy thier partner, sexual boredom, monotony etc.

ooohh the irony
Old 28-09-2009 | 03:23 PM
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disagreeing over your particular definition of the word slut doesnt really mean anything.
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think warren needs some naomi love
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
cutting!! for chip methinks!! Any sex is better than no sex and im damned sure johnny makes sure he has great sex most the time!!!!
Im sure Johnny has a great sex life, but you are making some incorrect assumptions IMHO that I dont have as well, although currently in involves only the girl im dating of course.




Although ive never tried swinging, i can see your perspective and im quite open minded. Chip has quite strong opinions on the matter and is clearly loosing obectivity and therefore unable to see anyones perspective other than his own. I would have expected better off a psychology graduate!
I can see his perspective, and have tied one side of what he gets up to as part of his lifestyle of swinging (ie ive had MFF 3somes) I simply cant personally relate to it (in terms of it involving other men in sexual contact and shared sexual acts with him) as a straight male as I dont happen to personally enjoy such things myslef.
That doesnt mean I dont understand the psychology of it, I do, I just dont personally relate to it, thats something different and you misunderstood my comments if you are viewing not relating to something and not understanding it as the same thing, possibly because I worded if badly (ICBA to go check TBH), so if that was the case I can only apologise.

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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
Is that why he needs so many condoms??? he needs to shoot his load 3 or 4 times before his missus comes???

He says he needs Johnnies to last longer
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
I think you will find swinging actually makes them a stronger couple and probably contributes to why they are still together Where as many a marriage breaks up due to men who cant satisfy thier partner, sexual boredom, monotony etc.

ooohh the irony

Of course mate, I am WELL aware of that.

If you are married to or dating a bird who has a yearning for a lot of different cock in her life and you try and repress that slutty side of her sexuality then its only ever going to end in resentment from her and ultimately a break up, if you can accept or embrace it like Johnny has then odds are you are both going to live a long and happy life together.
I would be surprisid if the average length of marriage in swingers isnt higher than that in non swingers in fact.
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for once chip is talking sense
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the thread wasnt about johnny and his swinging . how did we end up there again?
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I just dont like the camp ones that act and talk like girls , especially the ones that claim " I can turn any straight man gay" attitude. end of the day ,I dont care about them or their lives. so I ignore them
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Originally Posted by Elvis
A friend i have had since i was 6 or 7 got a group of us for a drink for something he wanted to tell us. He said he is gay and hopes it wont effect friendships etc.

Infact i was a little offended he thought his sexuality would be a problem for our friendship, but end of the day, it takes some balls doing that so fair play..

Anyway, A few people aint talking to him now.... wtf. and his Dad is not talking to him etc. I mean wtf is wrong with people, I really dont understand.

Today had a few arguments with these people including his dad. I am really shocked and disgusted by some of the comments i heared today. thought this was 2009 not 1809.

Would it bother you if your best mate was gay?

****** Was going to put it in the muppet room, but thought better not as the comments it will get
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest to be honest. Anyone who had a problem with it would be told to eff off and grow a pair, and then come back when they think they've managed it.
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this thread has changed so many directions its brilliant lol....i havent done swinging but i have done a ( MMMM ) night once haha.. (sits back and awaits the abuse lol )
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Fair play I reckon Dan, I dont see why anyone would abuse you for that, ive had a 4 some with 3 birds and it was good fun, so im sure a 4 some with 3 blokes is too if you happen to be into blokes!
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Originally Posted by Graceland
We can't help who we are at the end of the day. Being a bottom feeder isn't a disease or way of life, it's just one of those things. Look at me for example - those who know me said they would never of guessed unless I had told them.

What pisses me off the most is the fact they we are steriotyped into mincing faggy whorebags who prance around fucking about with peoples hair styles for a living - when in fact that just isn't true at all. The people who do that are the overly camp ones and I would guess that 99% of them had a repressed upbringing where in their family circle being gay was an extreme no-no and now that they are out of that circle they can pretend to be someone they arn't.

Another thing that really really infuriates me is the so called "Gay pride" shit that goes on. You don't get "straight pride" or "thalidomide pride" parades so why the fuck do a gay one? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equal treatment in life and the workplace, but come-on, if we want that when we are gay then why the buggeryfuck do some minorities of the gay community think it's approriate to have a big fagfest with loads of mincing queenie twats prancing about saying how proud they are of taking it up the shitter - It is these people who are the first in the queue to scream discrimination in the workplace or homophobic abuse should someone crack a joke - They are the joke in reality and need to man up a lot. I have a good laugh with people at work about the whole gay thing and no-one gives a shit about what I get upto in my private life - which is the way it should be. If someone calls me someone along the lines of a bum raper at work then I reply with something equally as offensive and we all have a laugh - simples

Anyway, I've gone off topic a bit really.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
the thread wasnt about johnny and his swinging . how did we end up there again?
No but it's a damn good read
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one of my best mates who i have known my whole life came out last year, hasnt changed a thing between us.. still realy good mates & still talk & laugh about the same stuff


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