Ok so i sould have worded it a bit differently, but the fact remains im not a sun reading sheep, the info came from a source with in the raf. Wether there is truth in it or not i cant be sure. but Im just saying what i was told.

My point also The SUN, the gov website, the RAf website, all media and open to the same levels of corruuption.

there is no humble pie or addmiting im wrong, as you/chip are no more right then I am.

I got told something buy someone from with in the field
You got told buy reading a website

neither of us are right.

Anyway back to the thread topic now hey!?

 

The world is becoming more intergrated all the time, the west is becoming more easternised and the east is becoming more westernised.
In another 1000 years, if we havent made the planet uninhabitable im sure there will be no real concept of race anymore, it will seem as irrelevant by then if someone is black or white as it does at the moment to if they are blonde or brunette.

 

Parties like the BNP are important as they give people the chance to show their upset at current policy from the other parties, a vote for the BNP will be seen by the tories and labour as encouragement that they should tighten up their policies on immigration etc.
Sadly it is also seen by the decent non white folk of this country as a swipe at them, even more so because of the NF connections etc

 

I believe my eyes and my eyes tell me muslims want to blow us up, eastern europeans are lowering our wages, our immigration policy is fucked up and our country is slowly but surely turning to shit, my kids have poles in there class who cant speak english so teachers have to spend more time with them, do you think thats fair and right?

 

Both of them comments are spot on.

 

I agree thats exactuly whats happening! Now is their best time to go for it IMHO.

People dont know who to vote for now really

 

I assume they arent connected to your brain at all?

I bleieve that Eastern europeans are widely regarded by economists to have added value to the UK economy, having the net effect of improving the quality of all of our lives, as without them many industries such as the restaurant trade couldnt have competed as well, they are typically MUCH harder working than UK people in "low" jobs.

Yes I think that is fair and right, in my class there were many children who needed more of the teachers time than I did, it didnt stop me doing very well.
What wont be fair is if the government dont allow for that extra tuition needed by controlling the staff to pupil ratio accordingly to make sure that all get a sufficient standard of education.


There are loads of other areas immigration has helped this economy too, Nursing for example, as far as im aware the NHS couldnt cope without foreign nurses.

 

ok fair play, I didnt mean to call YOU a sheep personally................just I have seen some similar things before and thought i'd post the info i had available to me

 

I agree in principle, but think the BNP are too extreme. Nick Griffin is a cunt and attracts votes from uneducated racists.

It's a shame that there's no party who just use common sense.

 

Indeed as per the succeeding sentance in my post which you didnt include in your quote, where I mentioned the effects of their links to the NF.

I think its impossible to have an extreme "national pride" type of party without it attracting all the cunts sadly.

 

Good post.

 

Unemployed British people should be given these jobs.

 

Arrrh so it was a premeditated link, not a 1min google as stated

I am glad tho that the BNP are finally getting people talking.

I voted BNP the other month in the local and euros, I dont agree with all of their policies, But more so then labour or cons.

 

Then unemployed British people should apply for these jobs.

 

Like a ford enthuiast forum

 

They are given them if they apply for them, have the interview and are the best person for the job.
I dont think that UK companies should be forced to give jobs to lazy stupid cunts just because they are white british though, I think they should be allowed to choose who they employ based on their skills and attitude.
I have given jobs to asian programmers before simply because they were better than the white people who applied, likewise I have given jobs to white people who were the best that applied.
Thats how business works.

 

lol no it was after your post, yes its good that people are talking..................................wonder how much cash i need to start the 2.0 BAR+ BOOST party?

no tax of fuel and anyone not born here that has been claiming benifits for longer than they have been working in the UK can be sold for spare parts to the far east to fund it

 

Right lets take this country as a blue chip company.

fuck off all the dole cunts out the country, have mwe got enough skilled uk staff NO.

lets get them in from other countrys interview and get the best from all over the word.

If they cannot speak english teach them.

Then the uk will be the best it can be, I cannot even coment on BNP because I cannot speak about racst cunts it just makes me want to be sick.

 

The pay is bad, this probably needs to be dealt with. Having said that I recently had a stay in hospital, and most of the nurses just seemed happy to be in a cushy secure job where they didn't have to try too hard. Paying them more would probably improve their performance however.

 

They are not fucking good enough thats why.

 

I think the closest/most chance of success would be a TOP GEAR party headed buy MP Clarkson.

Would never happen tho.

 

The NHS isn't a business Chip.

 

I agree totally, it needs to be dealt with that the pay for some jobs is so near to the amount of money that sponging lazy life long white cunts sat on the dole forever get given.
The way to remedy this is to DRASTICALLY review our over generous welfare system.

Unemployment benefit in this country is FAR too high, the living standards given to those who dont want to work are FAR too high.

If that was remedied then the jobs available would be more appealing to the lazy cunts who currently dont want those jobs.

 

IT IS.

 

That's not really a helpful statement mate. It would be for the good of the country to pay people to be nurses rather than pay them to be at home doing nothing.

 

So you think because of that they should give jobs to lazy white people who havent trained for them?
Like a business the NHS should get the best quality of worker it can with the funds available to it irrelevant of what the ethnic origins of those workers are.

 

If a job is menial, or requires little skill then the pay is poor.

If you're unemployed and there are jobs available (no matter how shit a job) then you should be forced to take the job, and if you don't then your benefits stop.

I hate all this "foreigners are taking our jobs" bullshit. They're simply taking the jobs that our nation's unemployed are too bone idle to take. The blame lies with the benefit system, not with an immigrant wanting to make money for their family.

 

I can see I'm not about to convince you. The country would benefit from less unemployed people. We shouldn't import people to do jobs that could be done by any one of millions of unemployed people. If we have to raise wages, surely that is worthwhile? But no, instead we import foreigners to do the jobs for less money.

So in Africa there are no nurses, and in England we have millions on the dole. Great.

 

So should we raise wages for rubbish jobs, or just stop giving hand-outs to people too lazy to work? I know which one I think is the best option.

 

I think that technically, that's how it works already.

I can't readily get my head round the fact that we have to import people to do these (or any) jobs. If our unemployed aren't skilled enough, we should make them skilled and give them the jobs instead of paying their dole.

 

I think we do have a problem with our high taxation.

 

What a load of fucking bollocks, THAT is why this country is the way it is now.

 

where will this money come from?

 

But the sad fact is labour have made it easier for a waster to stay at home on the dole.

There are many people on the dole who would actually be "worse off" if they went to work.

 

Exactly, if the benefits system in this country werent so excessively generous then more people would want the job in the first place!

Its FAR too easy for people to just spend their entire life on the dole.
Those people should be housed in ghettos of crowded accomadation with only basic food (a bit like the ghettos that the germans used in WW2 for the jews) and then should be given as much training, education and help to find a job as they want. They shouldnt be provided with fags or booze or anything else that they dont need. They should literally just be kept alive and healthy and no more.
When they got a job and can afford to live in a flat or a house instead of in the ghetto, it would give them a reason to stay in the job.
The longer they are in a job, the higher the standard of unemployment benefit they earn for in future so that their life doesnt collapse during brief periods of unemployment.
Staying alive and being looked after health wise should be everyone's right, but no more than that, the rest you have to earn!

 

But part of the reason for the high taxes is the fact that we have to spunk billions into a fucked up welfare system.

 

Please explain in more detail?

 

Thats not the solution, as forcing companies to increase wages will put many of them out of business, the way to encourage people to take a job is to make life more unpleasant for them if they dont, so that the job seems more appealing.
Drop benefits to widen the gap between dole and low paid jobs rather than raise wages for low paid jobs.

 

 

How can i seriously? Your comparing running a country as profit making organisation, granted a lot of things can be mirrored but as a general rule in basic terms a company has to be efficient with no dead wood where as a country HAS to carry that dead wood. Yeah bringing in extra skilled staff for the short fall is a short term fix end off.