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Old 07-09-2009, 08:17 PM
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channel 4...previously unseen live footage recorded by joe public...
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been watching it the last couple of nights, scary stuff !
Old 07-09-2009, 08:18 PM
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I'm watching it. Not ashamed to admit I had a tear in my eye watching it there.

Think about what the people in the towers must have gone through before they died...and for some of them to actually jump.
Old 07-09-2009, 08:20 PM
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im watching it and its shocking!!! just cant get my head around what it must of been like in new york city that day

R.I.P to everyone who lost theres lives that day!!
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ahh the person who jumps out and is watched falling to the floor thats terrible
Old 07-09-2009, 08:25 PM
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Speechless...
Old 07-09-2009, 08:27 PM
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just heard a 911 call with the caller saying the smoke and flames and comming in the room shes in, should i jump?
now ive got a BIG lump in my throat, and my eyes are welling up.
thats shit !!!
Old 07-09-2009, 08:31 PM
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watching it now too and thinking of the jumpers wonder what the feeling is like i bet it just can't be explained, my aunt could see the smoke from where she lives in jersey, and had to look after someone for the days the island was shut off.
Old 07-09-2009, 08:34 PM
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there was quite a few that jumped on film. one close up seeing the guy falling all the way whilst arms and legs are flailing.
Old 07-09-2009, 08:49 PM
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most of us have probably had a dream/ nightmare where we are falling, you know the panic - imagine doing it for real
Old 07-09-2009, 08:53 PM
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Think I was about 14 at the time. Some people in the town where I stay were telling me about it after I came out of school...infact it was going round the school late afternoon.

When i got home and saw the towers like that and the footage of the two jets hitting them it was unreal. You can't even begin to imagine what the people in New York must have been thinking. Just total shock I'd imagine.
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i was living in the netherlands at the time and going through the motions for my papers to live/work in the states for 6 months. this put a stop to that.
Old 07-09-2009, 09:09 PM
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True madness. Really is shocking what must have gone through peoples heads to jump from such a height. unreal.
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cant begin to imagine what that would have been like
Old 07-09-2009, 09:14 PM
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The whole of the city was unsure at first what was going on, it only really dawned on everyone later that day, then shock and terror began, but as days went on everyone pulled together.
I know this as I was there at the time, just about to go into one of the towers to have breakfast in the revolving restaurant at the top, had it been 10 minutes later I would have been there, still thimk of it now.
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it makes you realise how bad the situation must have been inside, to even consider jumping, you would know for sure you had no chance

must have been just horrific, poor poor people

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that bit with the 2 fireman looking up and there heads both coming down slowly, then the thud nuff said

R.I.P. to all on that sad day
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am speachless its horrific....
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unbeleivable
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Shocking to watch, the complete panic of knowing you,re going to burn to death and then to jump is just terrible and the dust etc when they collapsed....
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Seeing all the firefighters heading up, was wondering how many of them actually made it out.
Old 07-09-2009, 10:01 PM
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Still very sad and angry about this
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its propper messed up watching it unfold. Got ALOT of family there that all work there and had to walk back with everyone.
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Remember it was near the end of the afternoon and a weegie delivery guy came into our warehouse saying "raa worlds gawn mento maan... somewans flyin planes into raa trade towers in new york"

Didn't believe it until I was driving home and the texts from mates started to come in asking if I'd seen what had happened etc... these CH4 documentaries have been really powerful.


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extremely upsetting stuff
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i just cant get my head round the people jumpin.surely to god you would have tried to go through the fire knowing that there was no chance of survival by jumping.would it have been that intense that was the only option?
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I'm still watching it (recorded it) and I'm sat here with tears in my eyes. I've seen so much footage of this over the years, but all these "private" camcorder images just amplify so much and make it so much more real. I am honestly shocked, and so moved...

I can't help but think some of the faces of the firefighters seen earlier in the program, as they assemble outside the buildings just after the planes hit - they died in the collapse. Some of the voices on tape - those people died that day.

I brings home just how real and terrifying this event was. But also just how awesome it was. I don't mean "awesome!" in a good way, I mean on a magnitude level. How one of the most famous skylines was changed in less than ten seconds, and as the program title says, how America, but also the world, was changed completely in 102 minutes.

Truly TRULY tragic

The scenes of firefighters calling their families and wives to tell them they are ok. The guy that was 15mins late for work and survived because of it.

Chilling

R.I.P. to all those poor souls and brave men and women that lost their lives.
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Originally Posted by stevenebm
would it have been that intense that was the only option?
Yea, seem to remember at the time an expert saying how hot it would have been with the aviation fuel burning at x degrees, remember thinking that sounds fucking hot to me.


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Old 07-09-2009, 10:18 PM
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Id rather jump and make it quick rather than burning to death as i really think theres nothing worse

R.I.P To all those poor poor people
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Yea, seem to remember at the time an expert saying how hot it would have been with the aviation fuel burning at x degrees, remember thinking that sounds fucking hot to me.


Cheers,
Grant
ah right i didnt even think of that.must have been skin melting heat to jumpalso when you hear the firemen on the 78th floor etc talking to the guys on the ground knowing that they prob died is pretty hard hitting.
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No mater how many times i see it, it seems sureal!
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Originally Posted by stevenebm
when you hear the firemen on the 78th floor etc talking to the guys on the ground knowing that they prob died is pretty hard hitting.
Yup, that was the most powerful bit of tonights thing I thought... hearing these people doing their jobs and trying to save the people in the buildings without thought for the potential consequences. But was weird knowing that most/if not all the voices on the radios were probably never heard again.


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i wonder how many more lifes it will claim through that asbestos filled cloud of dust in times to come!?
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re: jumping your talking 24,000 gallons of jet fuel that caused a fire of 1500 to 2000 degrees F
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Those fireman are true heroes. I have been speechless throughout.

Benni.
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
re: jumping your talking 24,000 gallons of jet fuel that caused a fire of 1500 to 2000 degrees F
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I remember a couple of years back the firebrigade videos of inside the foyer of the halls and the fire chiefs wondering what the thud and breaking glass panes above them was and it was the corpses of the jumpers hitting the foyer roof they were standing under!!!
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
I remember a couple of years back the firebrigade videos of inside the foyer of the halls and the fire chiefs wondering what the thud and breaking glass panes above them was and it was the corpses of the jumpers hitting the foyer roof they were standing under!!!
that was from that documentry filmed by them flench filmakers who were brothers, they were doing a film about a rookie fireman in one of the fire houses when planes hit.
they caught everything on film virtually,they were in the foyer when the tower came down
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Seemed really surreal watching it, the reactions of people as the second plane hit and the knowing that this was no accident.

Then knowing that the tower would soon collapse but hearing the emergency services telling people to stay put.

I did wonder how many more would have got out if there had been told to just get out asap if they knew what we know now.

What really got me was the scale of the dust clouds and the density, blacking out a city. Seeing people running screaming as they followed and engulfed them.

It changed the world in so many ways.
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My wife came though to me during the first break totally white with shock and said that I must watch it with her. By the next break, I too was just speechless!

Can't get my head round to think how awful that day was for those involved. The number of fire engines that the control lady called out was nuts.

As andyt said above regarding the 2 firemen watching the jumper was unreal. A picture that will be ground into thier minds forever.


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