what's YOUR CARS power to weight...
18-12-2004, 09:46 AM
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what's YOUR CARS power to weight...
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What is yours...
My is
500 kgs
120 bhp
240 bhp / ton
What is yours...
My is
500 kgs
120 bhp
240 bhp / ton
18-12-2004, 09:50 AM
#3
my red nova
800 kgs
270bhp
= 337.5 bhp per tonne
my 3 door cossie should be (dont know the power for certain yet with t34 etc)
1200kgs
330bhp
= 275
my mini im building
600kgs
500bhp
= 833 per tonne
Really you need to allow for the driver as well though, thats why bikes power to weight ratio is so meanignless when done without a rider as the rider adds about 50% to the weight!
To get my cossie to the same power to weight as my nova i would need 400bhp
To get my cossie to the same power to weight as my mini i would need 1000bhp
800 kgs
270bhp
= 337.5 bhp per tonne
my 3 door cossie should be (dont know the power for certain yet with t34 etc)
1200kgs
330bhp
= 275
my mini im building
600kgs
500bhp
= 833 per tonne
Really you need to allow for the driver as well though, thats why bikes power to weight ratio is so meanignless when done without a rider as the rider adds about 50% to the weight!
To get my cossie to the same power to weight as my nova i would need 400bhp
To get my cossie to the same power to weight as my mini i would need 1000bhp
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18-12-2004, 10:31 PM
#25
Rick, who are you?
Ive not idea to be honest mate.
Ive built loads of A series, and i call them gay with good reason, ive spent 2 grand this week on my cossie and it will be about 330bhp and reliable, when i spent two grand on an a series i'm lucky to get a reliable 100bhp
Old technology has its limits sadly.
Hence im building up this 500bhp calibra turbo engine i have for my latest mini.
Ive not idea to be honest mate.
Ive built loads of A series, and i call them gay with good reason, ive spent 2 grand this week on my cossie and it will be about 330bhp and reliable, when i spent two grand on an a series i'm lucky to get a reliable 100bhp
Old technology has its limits sadly.
Hence im building up this 500bhp calibra turbo engine i have for my latest mini.
19-12-2004, 08:54 AM
#27
Originally Posted by sunny
Weight = 650kg
Power (new engine should be atleast) = 600bhp
923bhp per tonne
Power (new engine should be atleast) = 600bhp
923bhp per tonne
Cant match young Sunny, but hes MAD.
In its latest Spec 800bhp & 1300Kg = 600bhp/ton
Rod
19-12-2004, 10:48 AM
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really, need to do wieght with driver and fuel
and power needs to be at wheels.
xrtt 174bhp@wheels,200bhp@fly 1055kgs with me and fuel 165bhp/ton@whe.. 190@ bhp/ton@fly.=13.8@104mph
cossie 390-410bhp ish, @ wheels,504bhp @fly, 1300kgs with me and fuel ish.. just a guess as aint been wiegh'd.
308bhp/ton@whe......388bhp/ton@fly
and power needs to be at wheels.
xrtt 174bhp@wheels,200bhp@fly 1055kgs with me and fuel 165bhp/ton@whe.. 190@ bhp/ton@fly.=13.8@104mph
cossie 390-410bhp ish, @ wheels,504bhp @fly, 1300kgs with me and fuel ish.. just a guess as aint been wiegh'd.
308bhp/ton@whe......388bhp/ton@fly
19-12-2004, 10:51 AM
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Esc cos 1304kg
4x4 saph 1367kg
2wd saph/500/3dr 1267kg (Cant belive they are all the same!)
s2 920kg
FRST 913kg
FocusRS 1278kg
All From torquebhp.com so dunno how accurate
4x4 saph 1367kg
2wd saph/500/3dr 1267kg (Cant belive they are all the same!)
s2 920kg
FRST 913kg
FocusRS 1278kg
All From torquebhp.com so dunno how accurate
19-12-2004, 10:56 AM
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thier ford figures,but 4*4 saph and esc cos meant to be the same at 1304kg...
in real life, with fluids and steario's and stuff car will wiegh at least 50kg more.
e.g xr2 are meant to wiegh 840kg, mine came in at 960kg with 1/4 fuel, some tools, and boot floor with spare, and bits and bobs, +85kg for me.
in real life, with fluids and steario's and stuff car will wiegh at least 50kg more.
e.g xr2 are meant to wiegh 840kg, mine came in at 960kg with 1/4 fuel, some tools, and boot floor with spare, and bits and bobs, +85kg for me.
19-12-2004, 11:12 AM
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steario's and stuff car will wiegh at least 50kg more.
Dont forget a lot are stripped out too. Just a guide to work from as most wont have weighed theirs.
19-12-2004, 02:28 PM
#34
dry weight of my gsxr750 is 166Kg
power is 139bhp
dry weight power of bike is 837bhp/tonne
add:
me 76kg
1/2 tank of fuel n other fluids we'll say 15kg? (9kg of fuel)
leathers etc say 9kg but no idea lol!
total weight 276 kg
power to weight with me ridin = 503
markk
your calculations include fuel/clothes/fluids etc?
is you bike an 02?if so weight dry is 186kg? so needs a fair bit more power than mine to be more
just used guess calculations of 186kg for bike,70kg for rider and power of 137bhp and that gives 535bhp/tonne. try addin heavy leathers n fluids in yer calculations
or is bike mega souped up with big bhp? or are you a weightless midget?
chop
power is 139bhp
dry weight power of bike is 837bhp/tonne
add:
me 76kg
1/2 tank of fuel n other fluids we'll say 15kg? (9kg of fuel)
leathers etc say 9kg but no idea lol!
total weight 276 kg
power to weight with me ridin = 503
markk
your calculations include fuel/clothes/fluids etc?
is you bike an 02?if so weight dry is 186kg? so needs a fair bit more power than mine to be more
just used guess calculations of 186kg for bike,70kg for rider and power of 137bhp and that gives 535bhp/tonne. try addin heavy leathers n fluids in yer calculations
or is bike mega souped up with big bhp? or are you a weightless midget?
chop
19-12-2004, 02:37 PM
#35
while i have my maths head on i did some more calculations
people i took out on back of my old cbr6 thought it was fast but...
cbr6 = 186kg,100bhp
me on bike fully laden is 350bhp/tonne and with someone else at 80kg they would be experiencing 273bhp/tonne which is SHITE compared to riding alone so passengers think its fast as fuck when it aint really
even funnier to realise my new gixxer would feel quicker to my passenger at 390bhp/tonne than them ridin the cbr6 solo
chop
people i took out on back of my old cbr6 thought it was fast but...
cbr6 = 186kg,100bhp
me on bike fully laden is 350bhp/tonne and with someone else at 80kg they would be experiencing 273bhp/tonne which is SHITE compared to riding alone so passengers think its fast as fuck when it aint really
even funnier to realise my new gixxer would feel quicker to my passenger at 390bhp/tonne than them ridin the cbr6 solo
chop
19-12-2004, 03:23 PM
#36
Lambchop,
markk
your calculations include fuel/clothes/fluids etc?
is you bike an 02?if so weight dry is 186kg? so needs a fair bit more power than mine to be more
just used guess calculations of 186kg for bike,70kg for rider and power of 137bhp and that gives 535bhp/tonne. try addin heavy leathers n fluids in yer calculations
markk
your calculations include fuel/clothes/fluids etc?
is you bike an 02?if so weight dry is 186kg? so needs a fair bit more power than mine to be more
just used guess calculations of 186kg for bike,70kg for rider and power of 137bhp and that gives 535bhp/tonne. try addin heavy leathers n fluids in yer calculations
and it puts out just over 146 at the wheel with a few mods
so i was actually slightly out
529bhp/tonne all for less than £7500
19-12-2004, 03:26 PM
#37
Lambchop,
me on bike fully laden is 350bhp/tonne and with someone else at 80kg they would be experiencing 273bhp/tonne which is SHITE compared to riding alone so passengers think its fast as fuck when it aint really
me on bike fully laden is 350bhp/tonne and with someone else at 80kg they would be experiencing 273bhp/tonne which is SHITE compared to riding alone so passengers think its fast as fuck when it aint really
i agree , people who race you two ,
can be alittle embarrasing - very rarely like , but with another person on the back you can up the weight by a third 
, so in esscence drop the horse power by 33% and thats what you end up with 97 bhp/tonne onmy bike and yes passengers do think the bikes fast , but without a pillion , now that IS fast
19-12-2004, 04:44 PM
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