Sonic Boom

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I was having a discusion with a mate, I said that this 911 we saw was a 993 and he don't be a t**t thats a 911 and went ye a 993 is spec of 911.
Now am I right?
I wasn't completely sure, you can get 996's as well?
Whats the differences on a 993 and a 996?
Cheers Rich

cheeky dog

993 isn't the spec, its the mark or body type,

993 is 2 models old, 996 came after and 997 is currently in production but they are all 911's.

e.g. golf (911) mk1(993), golf(911) mk2(996), etc etc if that makes sense....

burnzy

i'm not too sure on the differences between them all but yea i think it's time for your mate to eat humble pie .

they all have different model numbers like the bmw's e30-e36-ect, that why clarkson always has a moan about how hard the porsche models are to tell apart.

i'm sure someone will come along and be more descriptive but you get the jist

Dangerous Malcolm..

Maria's the resident Porsche expert now.....

Sonic Boom

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It looked just like the 911 off of Bad Boys.
Rich

Lambchop

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Yes that's a 993

cheeky dog

i can never tell the difference between 993 or 964,

my mate deals with exotic cars but porsches mainly, just a quick look and he's identified the model, he thinks its easy.

Barry_GTi

I started typing a big explanation then thought fuck that so here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911

Mike C

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964, 993, 996, 997 etc is the model designation, no different to BMW and their E21, E30, E36, E46, E90 etc for the 3-Series

Works for other models as well as 911, ie Boxster = 986, 987

Sonic Boom

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Ye got it now, no idea how I managed to pluck the right model out of air for the 911 I saw then.
Cheers Rich

Ginge !

im sure that was a 965 ( but classed as a 964 just the porsche turbo part numbers start 965)

993 is the last of the aircooled porsche engines, but has a new body style with headlamps angled back is the more noticable difference

996 is after that they changed to water cooled and totally redesigned the cars to bring up to date , then headlamps and indicators are now made one peice instead of mounted in the bumpers

the 997 is the current range,,,,now has similer angled headlamps and bumper mounted indicators again like the 993 style of before so back to more retro looks yet not too much beetle looking

964 was the last of the classic porsche cars that shared the same main body metal panels from when they first made the "911" series, they generally changed cosmetics like bumpers, ect to bring it upto date

911 is a model name just like boxster, caymen, escort, sierra ect

993 is the chassis type such as mk3 mk4 mk5 ect and is part of the actual chassis number

also the turbo versions tend to have wider front and rear fenders/wings though the 996 carrera 4s is non turbo but does have the wider arches as the turbo,,,,,,, not only that but the carrera 4s also has turbo brakes, suspension and all other turbo hardware apart from the engine


hope that helps answer the questions

Maria.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no im not!

Ginge !

headlamps on the 993 angle further back wheres the earlier ones are sort of verticle

Mike C

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The 964 rear end is much sharper looking than the 993 too. The 993 is much smoother to tie in with the front. In fact, the 964 rear end almost gives the impression that it kicks up.

Ginge !

i never get time to see the back of cars,,, i just get to look at them in my rear veiw mirror to notice the differences

WD Pro

911 :





964 :





996 :





No 993 sorry

WD

FasterFords

I want a 996 even more now

Porkie

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No its not you Plank!

Ginge is pretty much there.

Its a 964... some, well alot of people call the Turbo a 965 but its not.

Ginge !

porkie its called a 965 cause all the part numbers for the turbo parts start with part number 965,,,,,, ive had a large debate about this with the guys i work with and companys such as design 911 ect ect and they all call them 965,,,,,, its anoying as they are sort of right apart from the chassis number aint 965 !!!

though nobody at a porsche place will listen to a cocky know it all whos new to the job when these guys have over 20 years experience of porsches and i own a renault clio pmsl

Ginge !

not with there engine issues you wont mate,,,, 4k to rebuild and they have a nasty habit of spining shells too,,,,,,, i have a list of part numbers of all the parts needed for the 3.4 rebuilds to save me looking it all up on pet,,,,,, its not ment to be as bad on the 3.6 though

p17fld

Noop.Its a 964, the headlamps dont slant backwards

Ginge !

are you not paying attention

thats a porsche 930 NOT a 911,,, the 911 is the RANGE/Design of the car,,, all of em are 911's,,,,,,,,,, they was ment to be called 901's but peugeot own the patent for all cars with 0 in the middle hence there called 911 instead

this is a 993 TURBO,,,,, see how its not the one from bad boys

Sonic Boom

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Here is the Bad Boys 911

And it's my favorite 911 no matter what model number it is!


Rich

Ginge !

looks like a 964(965) to me still,,,,,, love the look of that car !!!

FasterFords

damn, that my next car out the window then, I'll have to resort to plan B and get a Monaro then

WD Pro

Who me ?

930 = approx 1974 to 1989 - TURBO - 270, 300 & 330 bhp through its life.

911 (As pictured) = approx 1964 to 1989 - NON TURBO - 130 (2L) to 231 (3.2) bhp

Then came your other, later varients - 964, (dare I say ) 965 ('Turbo 2' - the bad boy car), etc ...

Porkie

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The one pictured doesn't have ANY of those problems!!! nor does it have RMS problems or liner problems or intermediate shaft problems or anything that effects the M96 engines.

Its a GT3... the engine is TOTALLY different to the M96 engine in Carreras and Boxsters. They use the same GT1 block as the Turbo and the GT2....

BOMBPROOF.

WD Pro

Yes the one pictured is a genuine GT3 polished by me

They sound quite 'mechanical' untill warm. I was allowed a small (low speed ) drive - soooo so nice ...

Ginge !

when someone states they want to buy a 996 i would assume they ment the carrera and not the GT3,,,, i know the difference between them and the GT3 is 3.6 too not the 3.4 which is the engine i was talking about

aLSO DONT GET CONFUSED WITH A CARRERA WITH THE AERO KIT FITTED. it may sort of look like a GT3 but wont have the same pukka 3.6 engine the actual GT3 car has

Lambchop

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Lee/Ginge

I stand corrected and now my favourite porsche is a 964 and not a 993

Barry_GTi

I want one of these:




But could live with this too(what is it though? ):

WD Pro

997 gt3 Rs ?

Ginge !

its based on that anyway atleast as its got the rs spoiler, if yours bored take a look at the price of one of em to buy and the replicas look fuck all like em,,,, why someone goes to the time of making a replica,,,,,,, that looks fuck all like it and try and sell it i will NEVER understand !!!

Mike C

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Looks a decent buy for someone at a shade under Ł76k seeing as it's virtually brand new and well spec'd with extras.

It's Czech Mate

964 Carrera RS would be my Porsche of choice if I had to buy one with my own money for a fun weekend car

Ginge !

nice cars though i seem to sell alot of engine parts for them also pmsl

LGL500

Its a 964 3.6 Turbo (964 Chassis number range.)

Porkie

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Test drove that very car 3 weeks ago!!!! it had some new superlight wheels that JZM have had made...

it was very nice

Barry_GTi

What did you think compared to your Turbo Lee? I have to say I was a Turbo fan after driving a few new 997's but after driving a GT3 RS I was COMPLETELY sold. The noise, the feeling, the presence, the response it is just all there. But I would have it in plain white as above

I have been having an argument with my brother, he says Turbo. Same with RS4's he prefers the 2.7tt ones and I would have the 8000rpm V8 thanks. I am the older brother by 6 years too...

It's Czech Mate

Typical response

I guess TVRs must be shit as well then, the amount of engine parts that are sold for them


The 964 Carerra RS basic is now 17 years old so it's hardly surprising you see lots of parts for a 17 year old performance car is it?

Whats more surprising is that you sell 'lots' of parts seeing as the run was limited to 2282 cars worldwide ( less than 3.6% or all 964 production ) Must mean a lot of them are still being used, which is pretty good for a 17 year old performance car.