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Old 06-08-2009, 08:40 AM
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Default Drinking cold water, and calories

Bored, so decided to work out how many calories you lose every time you drink a large glass of cold water:

Specific heat capacity of water: 4186 Joules per C per KG
Weight of 500ml of water: 0.5 kg
Temperature of ice cold water: 0 degrees
Temperature of water after it has been at rest in the body: 38 degrees
Energy required to raise 0.5kg of water 38 degrees = 79.5 KJ = 19Kcal


So if you drink 10 pints of freezing cold water and eat a packet of skittles for example, you will break even in terms of calories.
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Fuck me chip. Bit early for that, my eyes are still half shut
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Originally Posted by P_is_for_Paul
Fuck me chip. Bit early for that, my eyes are still half shut
Wish mine were, fucking 6am starts for me at the moment to get into london on time each day
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I imagine you would burn twise that amount of calories after walking to the toilet to piss 10 pints of water
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Originally Posted by st3v3
I imagine you would burn twise that amount of calories after walking to the toilet to piss 10 pints of water
You'll also burn some digesting the skittles in that example, so net effect would indeed be weight loss.

Conversely of course, everytime you eat anything hot, you effectively gain more calories than you expect to from the nutritional information on the pack as you also gain energy in heat at the same time.

Did the maths on ice cream though and sadly its still bad news, a litre of icecream is over 1000 calories and only about 40 needed to heat it up.
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lol so i way 8 and a half stone how much water should i drink or not drink lol as i drink it every day lol
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Originally Posted by Chip
Bored, so decided to work out how many calories you lose every time you drink a large glass of cold water:

Specific heat capacity of water: 4186 Joules per C per KG
Weight of 500ml of water: 0.5 kg
Temperature of ice cold water: 0 degrees
Temperature of water after it has been at rest in the body: 38 degrees
Energy required to raise 0.5kg of water 38 degrees = 79.5 KJ = 19Kcal


So if you drink 10 pints of freezing cold water and eat a packet of skittles for example, you will break even in terms of calories.
Is this including walking to the fridge to get the cold water, then into the freezer for the ice ? Also, did you get all 10 pints of water at the same time ?
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Originally Posted by Mk1-stu
Is this including walking to the fridge to get the cold water, then into the freezer for the ice ? Also, did you get all 10 pints of water at the same time ?
No mate, my secretary fetches the water and then leaves it sat till the ice has JUST melted and its at exactly 0 degrees then she pours it into my mouth for me so that I dont have to lift the glass, then she carries me into the gents and after ive had a piss she takes on the mammoth task of shaking my cock to get rid of the dribbles as it takes loads of calories to move that amount of meat around vigourously
Old 06-08-2009, 10:02 AM
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I had a milkshake for breakfast with 600+ calories in it
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Lmao Chip! Interesting stuff.
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Chip, is neilm your secretary?
Old 06-08-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Chip, is neilm your secretary?
No mate, although now he knows what the job entails, I suspect I will be recieving a PM with his CV
Old 06-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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Chip,

you may be starting your working day earlier but i see you still arent actually doing any work well done you
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Chip,

you may be starting your working day earlier but i see you still arent actually doing any work well done you

Old 06-08-2009, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Conversely of course, everytime you eat anything hot, you effectively gain more calories than you expect to from the nutritional information on the pack as you also gain energy in heat at the same time.

Not quite.

The body will consume a small amount of energy to maintain your body temperature. Your metabolic rate is actually increased - blood flow to the stomach increases trying to keep its temperature at 37 degrees, where enzymes are happy, burning more calories. Spicy foods have a similar effect in that they consume a large amount of calories being digested, this is an increased thermic effect.

If you think about it, just because you have given yourself some hot food, the body doesn't just reduce it's heat output because it's got it's heat from somewhere else. It's heat output is a result of all the reactions which keep you functioning.

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ooh thats good lol ive been drinking 2litres of water a day lately

trying to cut out all the shit i drink ! so im doing good lol
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
ooh thats good lol ive been drinking 2litres of water a day lately

trying to cut out all the shit i drink ! so im doing good lol
Me too. 2 litres of Evian per day on top of any other drinks I have (tea etc).

Tesco's do two 2 litre bottles for Ł1.20 at the moment, so I stock up each week!

I feel better for it.

LOL about the calories thing though.
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Originally Posted by Rick
If you think about it, just because you have given yourself some hot food, the body doesn't just reduce it's heat output because it's got it's heat from somewhere else. It's heat output is a result of all the reactions which keep you functioning.
Yes it does reduce its heat output as a result, otherwise your body temperature would rise, and it doesnt do so. (although its not an exact relationship, depends how much heat its generating to keep you at temp at the time, if you were shivering your tits off cold for example it would be a direct relationship then)

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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Me too. 2 litres of Evian per day on top of any other drinks I have (tea etc).

Tesco's do two 2 litre bottles for Ł1.20 at the moment, so I stock up each week!

I feel better for it.

LOL about the calories thing though.

ooh might have to get to tesco's !
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Drinking too much water in a short space of time can ultimately lead to death, which makes the calorie counting a bit insignificant really.
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you really need to get a job where you actually work for a lkiving ... cos lets face it you got toooooo much time on your hands
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Chip, I think your talents would be far better suited to this thread.

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...-paradigm.html

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Originally Posted by Mal.
Drinking too much water in a short space of time can ultimately lead to death, which makes the calorie counting a bit insignificant really.
it's about 6 pints where you start to get to the point of serious risk of being dead, so the packet of skittles might just save your life

it's all to do with your body becoming too diluted and the blood that's absoring the "enrgy" from the water can no longer do it's job

but it's been a whlie since i did biology so don't quote me on that
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Originally Posted by dojj
it's about 6 pints where you start to get to the point of serious risk of being dead, so the packet of skittles might just save your life

it's all to do with your body becoming too diluted and the blood that's absoring the "enrgy" from the water can no longer do it's job

but it's been a whlie since i did biology so don't quote me on that

Water has no energy.

I dont know if its the sole cause of death but too much water upsets the electrolyte levels, the most important being potassium,sodium and calcium. Too little (or too much) potassium and your heart stops.
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Originally Posted by Ellie
Too little (or too much) potassium and your heart stops.
My old man was rushed to hospital one time, and was in for a couple of weeks after his heart stopped though lack of potassium
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bloody hell, scary.

Its basically because cells 'trade' potassium, sodium and calcium to carry out their action and too little or too much stops it. And when its cardiac muscle cells, your in trouble!
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Originally Posted by Ellie
bloody hell, scary.

Its basically because cells 'trade' potassium, sodium and calcium to carry out their action and too little or too much stops it. And when its cardiac muscle cells, your in trouble!
Yes the sodium - potassium pump is massively important within the human body.
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I think Bananas have the highest potassium content of any food? That's what they suggested when my dad was in hospital that time anyway
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
ooh might have to get to tesco's !

lol ,

I find i can get over 2lts of water out of my tap in the kitchen for free without even trying......lol

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Originally Posted by Mike C
I think Bananas have the highest potassium content of any food? That's what they suggested when my dad was in hospital that time anyway
Yes thats also what I have been told.
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Can you work out how many glasses of water id need to drink to cancel out 10 pints of lager, a 10 inch pepperoni and mushroon, and maybe a few garlic roasties while i wait? Will be good to know how much water i need to drink before i go to bed so i dont get any fatter.
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banana's are supposed to be the best "slow energy" food to keep you going for a while
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I personally find it amazing that our bodies and lives depend on ions of sodium and potassium moving in and out of cells. Seems so simple yet its unbeleivably complex.
But thats a different topic!

oops, that was a reply to chips last post.

Yeah bananas are good, but have a look on here ;
http://www.weightlossforall.com/potassium-rich-food.htm

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Originally Posted by S1rst
Can you work out how many glasses of water id need to drink to cancel out 10 pints of lager, a 10 inch pepperoni and mushroon, and maybe a few garlic roasties while i wait? Will be good to know how much water i need to drink before i go to bed so i dont get any fatter.
Re-read this thread.
You'll be dead most likely
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Originally Posted by TIFF


Is your life really this boring chip?
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
lol ,

I find i can get over 2lts of water out of my tap in the kitchen for free without even trying......lol

rob v
my tap water tastes discusting (sp?) at home

the water at work isnt too bad when its put in the fridge

thats what i normally drink but i like bottled water
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds


Is your life really this boring chip?
No mate, not my life, just my commute into london on the train.
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Originally Posted by Mal.
Drinking too much water in a short space of time can ultimately lead to death, which makes the calorie counting a bit insignificant really.
Im glad someone else got that in before me, drinking 10pts of water in a day would not be a wise move really
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10 pints of water in a day isnt a particuarly bad idea, plenty people drink more beer than that and are fine for example. Its not ideal, but a point of water every couple of hours like that isnt going to kill you.


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