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Old 16-07-2009, 09:50 PM
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if you had a £1000 budget for a drift car how would you use it????
Old 16-07-2009, 09:55 PM
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buy a cheap E30 BMW and weld the diff lol
Old 16-07-2009, 09:56 PM
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Yeah - E30 would be the way to go or a cheap S13
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Or any cheap relatively powerful BMW for that matter!
Old 16-07-2009, 09:57 PM
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Old 16-07-2009, 09:59 PM
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Old 16-07-2009, 10:04 PM
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you can pick up an E36 325 for about 500 quid if you look hard enough, weld the diff, get the bbtb + induction kit and you have a 200ish hp arse happy drift machine !
Old 16-07-2009, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mk1-stu
you can pick up an E36 325 for about 500 quid if you look hard enough, weld the diff, get the bbtb + induction kit and you have a 200ish hp arse happy drift machine !
I've been wondering about this. One of my mates has one, and it has some annoying stability program that can't be turned off according to him? Is that right?
Old 16-07-2009, 10:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of 325's didn't come with any form of traction control. My mate has a E36 M3 and that doesn't......
Old 16-07-2009, 10:15 PM
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My e36 325i drift car doesn't have, and didn't come with, any kind of traction control whatsoever.

For £1000 you'd get a better e36 325i than e30 325i, in my experience. I went for a BMW rather than an S13 when searching for a cheap drift car as I didn't want to worry about the turbo, and so was faced with the e36 or e30 dilemma. You seem to only get only really nice e30 325i (mainly M-tech2's) that go for big money or really sheddy e30 325i that will probably be too much hassle than they're worth.
Old 16-07-2009, 11:03 PM
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DO NOY BUY A BMW!!!!

i paid £600 for a nissan 200sx a few years back, and staig out the box it was a far better drift car than a bmw.

get the cheapest 200sx you can, weld the diff and not give a fuck about it!
Old 16-07-2009, 11:04 PM
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Would something with a turbo not be more trouble than a BMW? Or more likely to blow up when it's that cheap.
Old 16-07-2009, 11:05 PM
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the 200sx is a very good drifter from the off with enough power etc.

ok mine wasnt the best example but at £600 i just didnt give a fuck. if i crashed, who cares etc...

thats what id do again if i was aftet a cheapo drifter. maybe try and get one thats had a bit done tho, not a bog std one.

ckeck out the sxoc/driftworks
Old 16-07-2009, 11:19 PM
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S13s are cheap to start off with, but dont last, for the money your gonna get high miles rotters that u gotta worry about doing turbo gaskets on and the bottom end going which is common with the CA18 det.
E30 and E36 have a good balance and welded diff sets you off for instant fun.

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i would buy one that someone else has built
Old 17-07-2009, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan_D
I've been wondering about this. One of my mates has one, and it has some annoying stability program that can't be turned off according to him? Is that right?
I do vaguely remember my bro saying about this a while back, it has something to do with the type of diff the car is fitted with.

Btw, if you look for an E30 325, go for a 'touring' as they have a much better diff ( similar to M3 iirc ? )

You can always turn off stability programs too - you just have to know how !!
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200 sx turbo or capri 2.8i
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Old 17-07-2009, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mk1-stu
I do vaguely remember my bro saying about this a while back, it has something to do with the type of diff the car is fitted with.

Btw, if you look for an E30 325, go for a 'touring' as they have a much better diff ( similar to M3 iirc ? )

You can always turn off stability programs too - you just have to know how !!
If an E36 has a standard LSD it won't have stability control. Like you say, if it did have it anyway you can either switch it off on the button on the centre console ( it will reset itself when you turn the ignition off ) or take it off the inlet tract completely. I don't think many early E36s had it anyway

As for the e30 325 Touring, a lot of them came with a 3.91 ratio LSD ( like the later Sports ) rather than the 'longer' ( by longer I mean smaller number like a 3.64 etc ) open diffs of ordinary E30 325s so that maybe what you are thinking of? You can have a look at the diff tag and it might give you a clue as to the ration and whether it's a LSD ( tag will have an 'S' by the ratio but don't take it as gospel as there are unscrupulous people out there )

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I won't spend £1000 on your first drift car. Just get the cheapest RWD car you can lay your hands and weld the diff, then go and learn to drift.

If you did want to spend £1000, have a look on trampdrift or driftworks for one that has already been played with to make it easier to drift (Like Nick suggested).
Old 17-07-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan_D
I've been wondering about this. One of my mates has one, and it has some annoying stability program that can't be turned off according to him? Is that right?

Depends what age it is. I had a 1993 325i that had now traction control at all and my mate had a slightly newer, maybe 1996 323i that had traction control.

323i/325i would be a good choice imo. induction kit and a bbtb mod and its over 200bhp, weld the diff, strip it and it will drift alright i'd imagine.
Old 17-07-2009, 10:24 AM
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bbtb mod
Whats that then??


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IMHO you don't need alot of power to drift. When you start off, you will benefit from learning in something low powered as you have to be fully committed and you can't use power to mask being a pussy. When you do progress on to something more powerful you will be a hell of alot better than someone who started off drifting something relatively powerful.
Old 17-07-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Manual Carlton GSi, put fuel in and enjoy. Its that easy, my mate did it.
That's what I did quite a few years ago but they are very very hard to find these days because they got scrapped when the rear arches and behind the kit rotted it Shame because despite their size they are great fun to drive
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Whats that then??


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Big bore throttle body, is a common mod on e36's its is cheap and very effective.

IIRC no 325's had ESP they only fitted it to later 323/328's
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I also would say a volvo 340/360.

Can get a decent one for Cheap, renault engines can be fitted easily ie valver or williams lump. Strip it, add a bucket seat, weld the diff.
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Originally Posted by bristol_fez
Big bore throttle body, is a common mod on e36's its is cheap and very effective.
indeed - the 328i owners also get a 325i manifold 'modified' to fit their engines as it's less restricted and gives more power !!
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
DO NOY BUY A BMW!!!!

i paid £600 for a nissan 200sx a few years back, and staig out the box it was a far better drift car than a bmw.

get the cheapest 200sx you can, weld the diff and not give a fuck about it!
100% agree the nissans are the best drift cars,

only thing i found is if you can drift a crappy ol 325 you properly you can drift most rwd's, if you learn with a 200sx drifting things non turbo and less stiff gets tricky and you start to hate yourself thinking you've lost some skill somewhere, lol

buy a 200sx indeed
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S13 200sx + welded diff
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Originally Posted by swebber23
I also would say a volvo 340/360.

Can get a decent one for Cheap, renault engines can be fitted easily ie valver or williams lump. Strip it, add a bucket seat, weld the diff.
Volvos dont drive anything like as well as a 200sx, the suspension geometry isnt as good, the parts arent as readily available, they are great if you want a really cheap drift car for a couple of hundred quid to practice with but if you have a grand to spend it would be much better spent on a 200sx and then you dont have to do engine conversions etc
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Buy a £300 Transit and get yourself out in the rain, its great fun and something I have enjoyed doing the past 2 years Ive had mine. A turn and a half of opposite lock is a bit scary in a Transit at times
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Get a sierra and put a Cossie V6 in it.
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Originally Posted by Chip
S13 200sx + welded diff
Would be worried that wouldn't last as long as a BMW?

Fancy picking up a cheap drift car of some description though. Got my trailer license last week, so can now pick up these heaps of junk without having to insure them for the road or having to risk the drive back in something that could break down.
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if you can get an s13 200sx get that, proven world famous drift car

and tons and tons you can do to it

imo an n/a engine would be good to use to start drifting in
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Originally Posted by Alan_D
Would be worried that wouldn't last as long as a BMW?

Fancy picking up a cheap drift car of some description though. Got my trailer license last week, so can now pick up these heaps of junk without having to insure them for the road or having to risk the drive back in something that could break down.
Yeah a 325 would be more reliable, but 200sx's arent too bad, and if it brakes just fix it.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yeah a 325 would be more reliable, but 200sx's arent too bad, and if it brakes just fix it.
Surely if it brakes its a bonus? If it breaks on the other hand, you'll need to get fixin.
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No doubt someone will now say it was spelling not grammar, lol
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200sx def gotta be for that money


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