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Old 22-05-2009, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLocksmith
Cooper S's are quoted at 160bhp with roughly the same torque.
163bhp for the 1st gen, then 170bhp for the facelift 1st gen.

172bhp for the turbo'd ones
Old 22-05-2009, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 95 fiesta si
agree. had i not lifted i reckon he would of still had me around 80-90 anyway. i would have had it top end though i reckon.
yours got an LSD box in it?

helped mine no end.

i think the cooper would of dicked you top over 80 tbh. if you were running throttles and a decent stage 1 set up you would be laughing
Old 22-05-2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 3i_gaz
yours got an LSD box in it?

helped mine no end.

i think the cooper would of dicked you top over 80 tbh. if you were running throttles and a decent stage 1 set up you would be laughing
yes ERST LSD box. although iam in need of a B&M quickshift. linkage on my box is very sloppy and i get kicked out of 5 sometimes
Old 22-05-2009, 09:32 PM
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pauls mini was a good one.tho he was daft to leave me in it alone with the keys so i had to take it a quick blast
Old 22-05-2009, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3i_gaz
yours got an LSD box in it?

helped mine no end.

i think the cooper would of dicked you top over 80 tbh. if you were running throttles and a decent stage 1 set up you would be laughing
engines got everything except throttles. its either that or a turbo for its next upgrade.
Old 22-05-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WongRS
i'd love a go in one! always thought they look great fun , i was always under the impression they where a bit lacking in straight line speed though, or do they go well?

If you are passing sometime Dan, I can take you out in ours - it's a170ish bhp supercharged one - basically standard
Old 22-05-2009, 11:14 PM
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GPs are a modle not a kit
Old 23-05-2009, 06:26 AM
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My g/f has a 2003 cooper s for nearly 2 years now. We had the gearbox replaced about 12 months ago under warranty as they apparently have a known weakness back then. I have done a motorkhana in the car and it handled ok but suffered with cooling. Car is excellent on the highway with economy and enough grunt around town. Am replacing the brake pads this weekend. Servicing is the only thing that I dislike through BMW.

What performance mods are available for these, bolt on stuff etc? Am not sure what is available over here so shipping from the UK might be the best bet.

I took the new turbo charged one out while hers was having the 60000km service 2 months ago. Was quite impressed and it is leagues above the older one.
Old 23-05-2009, 07:32 AM
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I love mine for daily driving and there at the price point now where they are very cheap
Old 23-05-2009, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rich frst
all about the gp mini



Loving the fact the radio is on on track
Old 23-05-2009, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thebigmacmoomin
All Mini's are (maybe except the diesel).

Andy
what about the mini one?
Old 23-05-2009, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
what about the mini one?
Only the current R56 MINI ONE is a 1.4 the older R50 was a 1.6 demapped for less power.

Alex (MINI expert LOL)
Old 23-05-2009, 05:54 PM
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alex do you rather the turbo or supercharged mini?
Old 23-05-2009, 07:45 PM
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We've had our cooper s for just over a month and it's an absolute hoot. I'd describe it as nippy but not quick. When I got back in the CSL I remembered what quick was....
Old 23-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
0-60 on a standard mk1 bmw cooper S is qouted at just under 7 seconds. id be surprised if a 2.0l mk3 fiesta was faster. Bear in mind a rs1800 got to 60 in 8.1 secs and that was 130bhp so i reckon your 3 fat knackers in the back more than destroys any "lightweight" advantage you may have had.
RS1800 are claimed at 130PS I've never seen a standard car make over 120bhp and even modded ones often fall shy of the claimed standard output.

Cooper S is a cracking fun car
Old 23-05-2009, 09:13 PM
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good point oranoco

How many 100k plus mondeo silver top 2.0l still make the 136PS claimed when new . Im skeptical of his 160bhp 2.0zetec unless he has rebuilt it from scratch etc etc
Old 23-05-2009, 09:55 PM
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I remember an encounter I had with a mini cooper s a few years ago. I was coming back from an evening out with the worse half, who was a little worse for wear when the cooper s pull alongside us at the lights with his token blonde bimbo in the passenger seat and she's looking through the window as he is reving his car up.

Normally the worse half would have told me off for even contemplating competing, but she seen the other girl looking and female feral instinct took over!

We basically mauled the Cooper badly and we slowed down to let them catchup and got caught at the next set of lights, did the blonde bimbo look round this time!

My friends sister has one and to be fair its quite a nice motor.
Old 23-05-2009, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
good point oranoco

How many 100k plus mondeo silver top 2.0l still make the 136PS claimed when new . Im skeptical of his 160bhp 2.0zetec unless he has rebuilt it from scratch etc etc
2.0 zetec had a complete rebuild 5k ago with new water pump, oil pump, crankground and balanced and re-shelled, pistons, rings, bores rehomed, stage 2 head, K&N induction, polished and ported head with kent fast road camshafts with springs and hydrolic tappits and vernior pullys, remap, power boost valve, ashley 4-2-1 racing manifold with de-cat full s/s exhaust, escort s2 rs turbo lsd gear box.
Old 24-05-2009, 09:37 AM
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The supercharged Cooper S can be made to go pretty quickly without spending much cash.

I'm taking mine to the Pod on Friday to see what time it will get with @ 260hp.
Old 24-05-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by northerner
The supercharged Cooper S can be made to go pretty quickly without spending much cash.

I'm taking mine to the Pod on Friday to see what time it will get with @ 260hp.
What's yours had to get it to produce that?
Old 24-05-2009, 10:15 AM
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For 260 -

reduction pulley
modified head and cam
miltex exhaust with janspeed manifold
remap

Old 24-05-2009, 01:13 PM
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Not according to GTT...

http://www.gtt.uk.com/packages.asp

Seems like you need quite a bit of work to get up to mid 200s. Went out in my mates Mini the other night he has the 230+ GTT package. Deceptively quick imo as it doesn't have the piledriver boost of a turbo but watching the speedo it just climbs and climbs. Mid-range is also very very good!
Old 24-05-2009, 01:32 PM
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not sure what you mean:

GTT260+ ecu remap + optimised bypass valve + high temp iridium sparkplugs + GTT supercharger pulley + shorter 'stickier' drive belt + GTT twin bearing idler pulley + GTT 'cold ram' induction kit + GTT large top mount 16 tube intercooler c/w GTT diffuser +GTT exhaust re- route pipe + GTT camshaft + GTT adjustable cam timing sprocket + GTT 63mm throttle body + GTT stage 2 cylinder head + GTT lightweight 2 piece sports manifold & cat + Larger Fuel Injectors

I didnt detail the supporting parts but other than that its the same.


Getting to 210 is very easy - but its the law of dimishing returns...
Old 24-05-2009, 01:35 PM
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I just meant that because I knew roughly what the GTT packages are that your description was a bit basic because I was expecting you to mention stuff like the cooler an injectors but never mind. Apparently GTT themselves have a 275+ package on their mini but it is right on its limits at that power.
Old 24-05-2009, 01:46 PM
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Arr I see what you mean - wasn't quoting an exact spec (I've done enough of those this week lol).

I've not seen 275 from the supercharger - it doesnt flow enough air and the bigger Eaton blows don't fit and dont drive the water pump.

Their turbo conversion is about 300 but massivly expensive.
Old 24-05-2009, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
For 260 -

reduction pulley
modified head and cam
miltex exhaust with janspeed manifold
remap

Spot on apart from uprated injectors and intercooler

The most i've seen from a supercharged cooper s is 282hp.

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Old 24-05-2009, 07:19 PM
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My sisters boy friend has a mini cooper s super charged and he thinbk his mini is quicker than my stage 2 saff.
Old 24-05-2009, 08:02 PM
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round a track it probbaly is hehehhe
Old 24-05-2009, 08:09 PM
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My girlfriend has got a 55 plate Cooper S Checkmate Edition - it's got a lot of extras added onto it and is a cracking car - especially in the times I've driven it. The effect of the standard LSD is certainly noticable.

Totally hammers my coupe in the corners, but starts to lose out once higher speeds come into play.

It's got the stigma of a girls car, but if you don't see through that, you're missing out on one of the most fun cars out there. Well built too, in comparison to it's competitors.
Old 24-05-2009, 08:15 PM
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didnt think cooper s were quick at all left one in a 150 bhp frst
Old 25-05-2009, 12:31 AM
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I'm targeting a 13.9 qtr mile at the Pod on Friday so that should help the comparisons.
Old 25-05-2009, 08:42 AM
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Ok so the mini cooper s are shit and the good old fiesta won well done mate.I like to show up these new cars.
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