T4 v T38
09-12-2004 | 01:48 PM
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Hi Ian,
Yep, I'm still at it........
Seems to be going on forever. Head is off and ready to go to Karls for porting, and fitting some of his cams, turbo will be ready for collection in a week, really should pull out the bottom end while I'm at it, just to give it the once over....... But I know if I do that i'll end up doing even more. Anyway, I'm not planning for huge bhp (Relatively Speaking By Todays Standards) but I do want a genuine 420bhp + with good torque and low lag.
Just want it to pull 420bhp on anyones rollers, without fail.......
Yep, I'm still at it........
Seems to be going on forever. Head is off and ready to go to Karls for porting, and fitting some of his cams, turbo will be ready for collection in a week, really should pull out the bottom end while I'm at it, just to give it the once over....... But I know if I do that i'll end up doing even more. Anyway, I'm not planning for huge bhp (Relatively Speaking By Todays Standards) but I do want a genuine 420bhp + with good torque and low lag.
Just want it to pull 420bhp on anyones rollers, without fail.......
09-12-2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Jim,
Ditch the greys and get some 750cc injectors, as you wil be running out of duty cylce with this turbo on the greys.
Ditch the greys and get some 750cc injectors, as you wil be running out of duty cylce with this turbo on the greys.
09-12-2004 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It looks quite surge resistant and likes boost . At 2.2 bar (gauge pressure it is still 76 or 78% efficient) and flows nearly 44lb of air per minute .
. At 2.2 bar (gauge pressure it is still 76 or 78% efficient) and flows nearly 44lb of air per minute .=====================================
09-12-2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Hi Ian,
Yep, I'm still at it........
Seems to be going on forever. Head is off and ready to go to Karls for porting, and fitting some of his cams, turbo will be ready for collection in a week, really should pull out the bottom end while I'm at it, just to give it the once over....... But I know if I do that i'll end up doing even more. Anyway, I'm not planning for huge bhp (Relatively Speaking By Todays Standards) but I do want a genuine 420bhp + with good torque and low lag.
Just want it to pull 420bhp on anyones rollers, without fail.......
Yep, I'm still at it........
Seems to be going on forever. Head is off and ready to go to Karls for porting, and fitting some of his cams, turbo will be ready for collection in a week, really should pull out the bottom end while I'm at it, just to give it the once over....... But I know if I do that i'll end up doing even more. Anyway, I'm not planning for huge bhp (Relatively Speaking By Todays Standards) but I do want a genuine 420bhp + with good torque and low lag.
Just want it to pull 420bhp on anyones rollers, without fail.......
I wouldn't bother pulling it apart if I were you, it's only done 40k aint it? And most of those were running std power IIRC. Should be quite an impressive machine once finished mate, you'll have to take me out for a blag in it
.............forgotten what being in a fast car is like now 
09-12-2004 | 02:39 PM
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Argh... More Expence.
Which injectors then......and how much.
How's the turbo compressor map look to you stu ????
Bearing in mind the rest of the engine spec..... Standard Comp, Karls head and cams, etc
Which injectors then......and how much.
How's the turbo compressor map look to you stu ????
Bearing in mind the rest of the engine spec..... Standard Comp, Karls head and cams, etc
09-12-2004 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Find the compressor map and have a look 
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Have'nt found any compressor maps yet BUT......
at these prices Brand New T4 Price: $399 (Ł 202.00)
Shipping (UPS 3 day service) $ 65.00 (Ł 34.00)
You won't be able to believe our prices on Garrett and Garrett Spec turbos. If you can find them for less anywhere else, let us know - because we can't
New Garrett T04B Turbos
Brand new! An excellent low cost Garrett turbo. Choose from several options. The S-Trim compressor will support up to 350 hp. The V-Trim compressor will support up to 450 hp. Look at the S Trim compressor map and V Trim compressor map.
Compressor: S-Trim. Turbine: T3, 0.84 A/R, P-TrimCompressor: S-Trim. Turbine: T4, 0.96 A/R, P-TrimCompressor: V-Trim. Turbine: T3, 1.00 A/R, O-TrimCompressor: V-Trim. Turbine: T4, 1.15 A/R, O-Trim Turbo
Price: $399
I kindy gave Vince at Universal Turbo's Ł 560.00 to overhaul/repair my one 
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09-12-2004 | 03:42 PM
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At that price you could regard the T4 as a "consumable" and chaange it 3 or 4 times a year (say when you do an oil change, put a new turbo on as well), then sell the one you've just taken off on E-bay....um Ł 198.00 reserve
09-12-2004 | 03:51 PM
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OMG one for IMA (Phil):
Garrett GT Series 650 BHP GT40 Ł 402.00
Garrett Turbos - Garrett GT Series
You won't be able to believe our prices on Garrett turbos. If you can find them for less anywhere else, let us know - because we can't!
Garrett GT40 Turbos
Brand new! Supports up 650 hp. Purchase TurboCalculator for the compressor map (available as an instant download).
88 mm, 54 Trim (0.72 A/R)82 mm, 50 Trim (0.58 A/R) Compressor Trim/Hsg
73 Trim (0.94 A/R)84 Trim (1.19 A/R)84 Trim (1.34 A/R) Turbine Trim/Hsg
Price: $899
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Garrett GT Series 650 BHP GT40 Ł 402.00
Garrett Turbos - Garrett GT Series
You won't be able to believe our prices on Garrett turbos. If you can find them for less anywhere else, let us know - because we can't!
Garrett GT40 Turbos
Brand new! Supports up 650 hp. Purchase TurboCalculator for the compressor map (available as an instant download).
88 mm, 54 Trim (0.72 A/R)82 mm, 50 Trim (0.58 A/R) Compressor Trim/Hsg
73 Trim (0.94 A/R)84 Trim (1.19 A/R)84 Trim (1.34 A/R) Turbine Trim/Hsg
Price: $899
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09-12-2004 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian2wdsaffcos
At those prices!!! Are they for real? Are they the same turbo's that we commonly use over here on Cossies?What's the web address for that site btw please Doug
09-12-2004 | 04:03 PM
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Cue one of Mike's stroppy replies:
"Doug, If you think those Genuine Garrett turbos from the USA are anywhere near as good as the 1986 designed RS500 truck turbo's that you can get in the UK for Ł 1,280.00 then you are even more stupid then you look"
"Doug, If you think those Genuine Garrett turbos from the USA are anywhere near as good as the 1986 designed RS500 truck turbo's that you can get in the UK for Ł 1,280.00 then you are even more stupid then you look"
09-12-2004 | 04:21 PM
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No Doug, I'm just saying that they are chalk and cheese, so the comparison is useless. You might as well be comparing a T3 to a T3/4 in this country .
The prices are really impressive until you add carriage and import duty and then you get a more comparable figure (for disimilar turbos ) .
.The prices are really impressive until you add carriage and import duty and then you get a more comparable figure (for disimilar turbos
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09-12-2004 | 04:35 PM
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From: sheffield,home of james toseland world superbike champion
the t38 is a good turbo if you have serious head work done it spinns up earlier than a t4 and pulls well to the end i had the 3rd t38 made but sold it as my planns changed back then nobody would buy 1 but now ther's a few of them about althoughy they do serge their tits off on standard engines
09-12-2004 | 04:36 PM
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OK mike, I will look in to this in detail and get a price for the "real thing" from the USA.....
This will be much more intresting than trying to find a T4 compressor map (especially as there are sooo many types of T4).
HELP Please:
Anybody got a GENUINE RS500 T4 ???
Pease look at the Garrett tag fixed to it (usually green & rivited on) and post up the part number as shown.
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This will be much more intresting than trying to find a T4 compressor map (especially as there are sooo many types of T4).
HELP Please:
Anybody got a GENUINE RS500 T4 ???
Pease look at the Garrett tag fixed to it (usually green & rivited on) and post up the part number as shown.
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09-12-2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
And what the fook have my customers got to do with our professional or personal relationship? Do i fall out with you cos Dingy can be a cock at times and constantly digs at customers of mine? NO...
And you clearly stated above that you thought it was coming DIRECTLY from me.. so dont backpedal now
And you clearly stated above that you thought it was coming DIRECTLY from me.. so dont backpedal now
What digs ?
GUS ? Erm blatently lied about his engine and both you and him made me look a cnut when i spoke the truth....
What other digs ?
If you got owt to say stu about me, say it to me.....my phone number is 07970 785 790 if you got a problem.
09-12-2004 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl
LOL, I'd best say No as Steve is the worst advertisement you could possible ask for, UNLESS you own one of those argumentative prank telephone lines.
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