General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Cossie stopped boosting....(found out why now)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:18 PM
  #41  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by Gary Osborne
dont bother with the stack mate. diodes will work as ive temp tried mine up to 4k and was perfect. couldnt rev more than that as car was stone cold.

made my self a nice little loom too, so i can disconnect the diodes any time i like



used alittle box to house the diodes as i wasnt sure if you could heat shrink them.

the two wires go into the coilpack plug, then just attach a wire from the last diode to the clocks fuck it cant move the pictures
Mine works up to 3.5k then just drops to 0,will try diodes 1st then,nice job btw.
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:22 PM
  #42  
STUCOS's Avatar
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
From: side way some were in tayside
Default

ppl if hose had split,or come off,turbine would still rotate with exhaust gases,this turbo is 100% fuked,kev get on the phone tomorow and get a brand new unit ordered,if we have time tomorrow night we will get turbo off of your car mate

cheeRS stu
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:25 PM
  #43  
Gary Osborne's Avatar
Gary Osborne
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 410
Likes: 0
From: R.O.I
Default

let me know if they work and ill send you a loom if you want
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:30 PM
  #44  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by STUCOS
ppl if hose had split,or come off,turbine would still rotate with exhaust gases,this turbo is 100% fuked,kev get on the phone tomorow and get a brand new unit ordered,if we have time tomorrow night we will get turbo off of your car mate

cheeRS stu
Check turbo 1st,then if it is we can take it from there.

Originally Posted by Gary Osborne
let me know if they work and ill send you a loom if you want
Wil do m8 cheers.
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:34 PM
  #45  
xr4x4rs's Avatar
xr4x4rs
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 3
From: coventry
Default

thats funny cus ive had brand new turbos that dont spin on tick over and they were perfectly fine
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:36 PM
  #46  
STUCOS's Avatar
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
From: side way some were in tayside
Default

Fuk me i change at least 1 turbo a week ,ppl please dont put your fingers in there when engine is running

cheeRS stu
Old 08-05-2009 | 11:06 PM
  #47  
reisskahn's Avatar
reisskahn
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 693
Likes: 1
From: Birmingham
Default

Sounds like the turbo am afraid

Same happend to me last year floored it from 2nd to 3rd heard a noise, thought shite whats that and started to smoke.

Cruised it home, done the usual checks took of air filter no play in shaft. Ended up removing the turbo and found the exhaust blades fbcuked and the shaft broken



Old 08-05-2009 | 11:07 PM
  #48  
GUZZLER's Avatar
GUZZLER
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,223
Likes: 1
From: Northants
Default

this post has so much bollocks on it

what the fuck does Jim mean by it couldn't be a hose as the exhaust gas would still spin the wheel........... so if you removed the boost pipes it would still work ok ????

as for it losing a turbine blade down the exhaust, it wouldn't lose all boost,,,, but it would sound like shit

the actuator rod coming off was the best suggestion by far,,,,,,, shame it wasn't that but the penny could have come off the wastegate!

have a good look tomorrow Kev, check the shaft of the turbo, side to side play is cool to about 1mm, you dont want any in & out play though.
Old 08-05-2009 | 11:11 PM
  #49  
reisskahn's Avatar
reisskahn
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 693
Likes: 1
From: Birmingham
Default

Originally Posted by GUZZLER
this post has so much bollocks on it

what the fuck does Jim mean by it couldn't be a hose as the exhaust gas would still spin the wheel........... so if you removed the boost pipes it would still work ok ????

as for it losing a turbine blade down the exhaust, it wouldn't lose all boost,,,, but it would sound like shit

the actuator rod coming off was the best suggestion by far,,,,,,, shame it wasn't that but the penny could have come off the wastegate!

have a good look tomorrow Kev, check the shaft of the turbo, side to side play is cool to about 1mm, you dont want any in & out play though.

i had no in & out play when the filter was removed. We only knew thr turbo was knackerd upon removal
Old 08-05-2009 | 11:16 PM
  #50  
GUZZLER's Avatar
GUZZLER
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,223
Likes: 1
From: Northants
Default

Originally Posted by reisskahn
i had no in & out play when the filter was removed. We only knew thr turbo was knackerd upon removal
did you not notice the damages compressor wheel, that should have give a clue.
Old 09-05-2009 | 06:43 AM
  #51  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by GUZZLER
this post has so much bollocks on it

what the fuck does Jim mean by it couldn't be a hose as the exhaust gas would still spin the wheel........... so if you removed the boost pipes it would still work ok ????

as for it losing a turbine blade down the exhaust, it wouldn't lose all boost,,,, but it would sound like shit

the actuator rod coming off was the best suggestion by far,,,,,,, shame it wasn't that but the penny could have come off the wastegate!

have a good look tomorrow Kev, check the shaft of the turbo, side to side play is cool to about 1mm, you dont want any in & out play though.
Will do matt,ps you have pm m8.
Old 09-05-2009 | 09:39 AM
  #52  
Lambchop's Avatar
Lambchop
PF Idiot Sniper
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 25,903
Likes: 7
From: Australia
Default

Bummer kev

Hope you find the problem today. Fuck me a new turbo is expensive though! I've never had to buy one and didnt realise they were that much for a t34

My auld sierra got tested yesterday
Old 09-05-2009 | 10:12 AM
  #53  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by Lambchop
Bummer kev

Hope you find the problem today. Fuck me a new turbo is expensive though! I've never had to buy one and didnt realise they were that much for a t34

My auld sierra got tested yesterday
Aye an expensive bit of kit

Get some pics of the 3dr up.
Old 09-05-2009 | 10:17 AM
  #54  
Lambchop's Avatar
Lambchop
PF Idiot Sniper
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 25,903
Likes: 7
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Aye an expensive bit of kit

Get some pics of the 3dr up.
it's beautiful outside here today so gonna polish and photograph this aft
Old 09-05-2009 | 08:03 PM
  #55  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

M8 kindly took off the turbo tonight and found the shaft to be bent,so gonna get a new one ordered up on monday.
Old 09-05-2009 | 08:51 PM
  #56  
rstoughy's Avatar
rstoughy
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,320
Likes: 0
From: onshore at the moment
Default

Good that you have found the problem Kev. Not so good that it's the turbo though
Old 09-05-2009 | 08:55 PM
  #57  
dave cos4x4's Avatar
dave cos4x4
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,872
Likes: 30
From: Liverpool
Default

are you upgrading then or just rebuilding it,new shaft etc...
Old 09-05-2009 | 08:57 PM
  #58  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by rstoughy
Good that you have found the problem Kev. Not so good that it's the turbo though
Yeah it's a pisser but could be worse i guess.

Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
are you upgrading then or just rebuilding it,new shaft etc...
Gonna buy a split new one dave.
Old 09-05-2009 | 09:10 PM
  #59  
bigad4x4's Avatar
bigad4x4
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,048
Likes: 0
From: Worcsetershire
Default

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
M8 kindly took off the turbo tonight and found the shaft to be bent,so gonna get a new one ordered up on monday.
Thats a bit of a bummer what causes that excessive heat?
Old 09-05-2009 | 09:11 PM
  #60  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Not sure to be honest m8,seems worse at the exhaust end.
Old 09-05-2009 | 11:02 PM
  #61  
STUCOS's Avatar
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
From: side way some were in tayside
Default

Could have been caused by partial seizure of bearing,we will never no,and so called M8 who took turbo off,never even got a cup of tea,

guzzler when in got there first thing i saw was the impeller had been in contact with compressor housing ,so we new it was game over for turbo from the start

cheeRS stu
Old 09-05-2009 | 11:08 PM
  #62  
Matt Baxter's Avatar
Matt Baxter
Back in black!
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,084
Likes: 6
From: Fleet, Hampshire
Default

not good mate time for a t38 then?
Old 09-05-2009 | 11:18 PM
  #63  
Jim Galbally's Avatar
Jim Galbally
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 20,599
Likes: 0
From: Ramsgate, Kent Drives: E39 530D Touring
Default

what the fuck does Jim mean by it couldn't be a hose as the exhaust gas would still spin the wheel........... so if you removed the boost pipes it would still work ok ????
remove hose between turbo and inlet and start engine... turbo will spin

if turbo not spinning with engine, running turbo 100% fooked, no other test worth doing

correct?
Old 09-05-2009 | 11:20 PM
  #64  
STUCOS's Avatar
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
From: side way some were in tayside
Default

Matt t38 not the answer,as standard head and cams,which cause surge when using a t38 so think he is going to buy a brand new t34 from vince,unless some body else comes up a good deal

cheeRS stu
Old 10-05-2009 | 08:31 AM
  #65  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Yeah was gonna go t38 but the surge bit makes me wanna go t34.63 again.
Old 10-05-2009 | 09:05 AM
  #66  
GUZZLER's Avatar
GUZZLER
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,223
Likes: 1
From: Northants
Default

Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
remove hose between turbo and inlet and start engine... turbo will spin

if turbo not spinning with engine, running turbo 100% fooked, no other test worth doing

correct?
wrong you nerd
the turbo should spin on idle but some dont i've seen quite a few that dont move on idle, you have to blip the engine to get them to spin, some then keep spinning, others will slowly come to a stop again!


strange for a shaft to bend on a T3, or has the turbine wheel hit the housing & bent it?? get some pics up of the turbo stripped.
Old 10-05-2009 | 09:14 AM
  #67  
STUCOS's Avatar
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
From: side way some were in tayside
Default

Guzzler,it,s a t34 running at 34psi,yes turbine has been in contact with compressor housing,turbo was origonaly a t34 .48 ,but kev then got a second hand .63 housing fitted to it about 18 mths ago,so we dont really know how old the turbo is ,or what abuse it had in it,s previous life

cheeRS stu
Old 10-05-2009 | 09:25 AM
  #68  
Glenn_'s Avatar
Glenn_
Glennvestite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 62,764
Likes: 1,044
From: Darlington county durham
Default

There is nothing worse than your car been broken.I hope you get it up and running soon.
Old 10-05-2009 | 10:40 AM
  #69  
NEIL A's Avatar
NEIL A
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,297
Likes: 9
From: LEVEN , FIFE
Default

Not good news Kev but atleast you found the problem, i think you should be ok with one of Vince's T38 for surge.
Old 10-05-2009 | 11:43 AM
  #70  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Phoning him tomorrow neil will chat about it then.
Old 10-05-2009 | 12:02 PM
  #71  
JamesH's Avatar
JamesH
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,807
Likes: 8
From: .
Default

Shit luck Kev
Old 10-05-2009 | 12:14 PM
  #72  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Originally Posted by James90RS
Shit luck Kev
Will be fixed for crail on sunday,todays text was a stormer btw.
Old 10-05-2009 | 12:34 PM
  #73  
Staffi's Avatar
Staffi
20K+ Super Poster.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 21,194
Likes: 107
From: Don't be nosey
Default

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Yeah was gonna go t38 but the surge bit makes me wanna go t34.63 again.

Kev, imo you,re doing the right thing, i HATED my UT T38 on the saff, never surged but fook it was aweful to drive on the road, i wish i still had the graph to show you...

You,ll make some nice power and torque on the T34.63 anyway fella..
Old 10-05-2009 | 12:56 PM
  #74  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Should be better even with a new turbo.
Old 10-05-2009 | 12:59 PM
  #75  
GUZZLER's Avatar
GUZZLER
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,223
Likes: 1
From: Northants
Default

depending how bad your housings are Kev you may get away with a core, would save some cash
Old 10-05-2009 | 04:28 PM
  #76  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Will find out this week matt,just want it back running again.
Old 10-05-2009 | 04:31 PM
  #77  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,654
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Will find out this week matt,just want it back running again.
shite isnt it, nice day like this and its on the drive broke

at least you'll get a nice shiny new turbo
Old 10-05-2009 | 04:39 PM
  #78  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

No,it's in the garage in bits m8.
Old 10-05-2009 | 04:42 PM
  #79  
JamesH's Avatar
JamesH
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,807
Likes: 8
From: .
Default

Glad you liked it Kev, get it fixed asap mate
Old 10-05-2009 | 04:45 PM
  #80  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Thread Starter
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

Want it done for sunday at least james.


Quick Reply: Cossie stopped boosting....(found out why now)



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:19 AM.