TotalRS

Hi all got any ideas on how to get a botom pully of a saff i dont have a puller so im strugeling
thanks all

Ginge !

you will need a puller or you will snap the cps lug,,,,,, which is what EVERYONE ends up doing hence they sell for so much

Twellsie

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correct, dont even atempt to do it without the correct puller, I made this mistake once

TotalRS

thats what im trying not to do that with a crowbar what about some heat on it

TotalRS

what puller should i buy a 3 leg or a 4 leg

Glenn_

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Are you trying to change your timing belt cause i got told that you can just to say feed the timing belt through the gap between the pullley.

TotalRS

i know but its a twat to do like that

cozmeister

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No, you can't - at least not with the V belt pulley. Can't speak for poly-v belt pulleys, but when I did mine, the pulley simply had to come off. THe belt's too thick, too wide, and too stiff to get in the tiny gap between the pulley, sprocket and belt guides. No nob jokes on my last sentence please. Unbolt the CPS first, leave it to dangle, then either give the pulley a little tap from behind with a rubber mallet, or grab it firmly in both hands and pull. A bit of a wiggle might help disengage it.Don't lose the woodruff key!!!!!

TotalRS

ive give up and come in know going to buy a pulley tommorrow thanks all

Toe Knee

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3 leg ones are easier as they grip better, ive got\use a 2 legged one and can be a bit of a struggle till its tight on!!

You will/may poss need to take the rad and fans off, poss just the fans but mine is quite big so ended up having to drop the rad too get it off in the end!!

J1mbo

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3 leg, and put them on the pulley properly

on the pulley there is strengthening bars , make sure the puller is pulling on these points

TotalRS

ive got the rad etc all of got loads of room so will get a 3 legger in the morn cheers mate your a star

J1mbo

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before you go for the puller try one more time, you can just slip a belt in, it takes a bit of time, and you may need a screw driver to help hold things to get it in, but it will go in with patience lol

just chop the old belt off

The Youth.

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Edited due to Jimbo not engaging his brain into gear before typing lol

the correct bottom pully remover are available that bolt onto the pulley then wind it off with no danger of breaking any lugs of the face off the pulley.

steve

TotalRS

one problem the pul has none of the small holes on the inside to be able to screw the pully into any more ideas

SS1

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wise words

TotalRS

im staying well clear of screwdrivers thay hurt me and brake things dont you just love this job fuckin belts do my head in

The Youth.

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I changed my cambelt last week and in this pic you can see the pulley remover on the floor it's the black round thing.



steve

J1mbo

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sorry i think ive worded that badly

what i mean is, if its not possible to get a puller you can get a belt in, you need to push (with your fingers lol) the belt under the pulley and then round the sides, the screw driver is to hold the belt in place whilst you can do the other side,

shit i made that sound bad didnt i

anyone reading listen to ^^^ DONT push the belt with a screw driver,

and for reference, when doing cambelts we do have the rad, intercooler out and use a puller

J1mbo

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steve, how does that puller work ? ive only seen the legged ones ?

jim

The Youth.

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Jimbo, it has 6 holes round the outside 3 of which line up with the 3 on the pully, undo the pulley bolt half way out then bolt on the remover using 3 small bolts then tighten up the big bolt on the remover and the pully slides off, you have to take it off to undo the main pully bolt a bit more then repeat the tightening sequence but the rad does not have to come off, on an esc cos the fans do but on sierras without the rads moved back then you can get straight in.

steve

J1mbo

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that sounds handy !

at work we only have the 3 leg puller, so have to take rad fans and intercooler out, pain in the arse really

that looks sooo much easier !

TotalRS

the pully i have has no holes to bolt any think to do u have a pic of a pully so i can see if its the same

SS1

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if its a rs 500 ic the whole system still has to come off no space for the puller

my last bill via the job was amazing

The Youth.

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they do work well Jimbo and at your place would save you tons of time, I borrowed mine of jacko at blue oval,just had a look on the net and can't find any I know pj motorsport used to sell them tho.
will take a pic of it tomoz as it's still in my garage

steve

cossyking

you can feed belt round but its a tight fit and not recommended, best off getting it off with puller

cossyking

ya right dont see the point in changing a timing belt if your going to force it round prob be as knackered as the old one by time its on "do it properly or not at all "

TotalRS

RIGHT this is doing my head in ive just been out to have another look on the pully that is on the car it does not look like a cosworth pulley it has no holes to screw any bolts in to i know what that one looks like but ive never seen one like this were the holes should be there r jus flt bits on the back there r no holes its not v belt but soon it could be ON FIRE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

cozmeister

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Stupid question but, have you taken the crank pulley bolt out yet?

Best way is with a breaker bar and a second body. Get your assistant to stand on the brakes with 5th gear engaged, then 'undo' the bolt.

Might be worth posting a picture so we can see what's going on.

PAUL S

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only the 4x4 pulleys had the 3 holes in the face for the puller to fit into - the 2wd ones dont have anything so the puller legs have to go on the outer face of the pulley

It can be done with a pair of tyre levers, but can result in snapping off a lug if not done with care and thought

cozmeister

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I just sat down, held it firmly in both hands and leant back, pushing against the front wheels with me feet for leverage - 14 stone of me soon shifted it!

Neil S

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Must have been loose then as they're usually fuck tight - how else would a 3-leg puller break the CPS tabs off?

The puller they youth is on about is called a harmonic balance puller, and I can't beleive that Mr Gibb doesn't have one!!!!!

Neil.

The Youth.

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neil, this puller I Have is a special one made for the yb, I do have a harmonic balance puller as well, which works on a similar principle, but the one I have is designed to negate the need to remove the rad as last time I used the harmonic balance puller and the rad still has to come off.

steve

Neil S

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Ahh, low profile sweeeeeet.....

Guess who's getting a call when my head comes off?

The Youth.

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Jackooooooooo!!!!

lol

in case you missed a post above it's his not mine..

steve

Neil S

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Yeah, I didn't read it properly

jacko

if any one is wanting one i can have some more made i bought mine but they could be made better quite easily

SS1

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Could you have a look at this link please

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/%20harmonic%2...egories&_naf=1

which one would you recommend for a saph 4x4

cheers

jacko

ill get some detailed pics when i get it back off steve

TotalRS

its off know thanks all now i have another problem lol