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Old 11-04-2009 | 05:33 AM
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And the Government and local councils wonder why the general public get fucked off being screwed over by this poxy country......this is the Police's job, not some sneaky bastard Smart Car's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7994449.stm
Old 11-04-2009 | 05:45 AM
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dont use your phone in the car and you have nothing to worry about.
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What about eating a chocolate bar, or turning the volume up or down on the radio ?
Old 11-04-2009 | 07:25 AM
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What about eating a chocolate bar, or turning the volume up or down on the radio ?


I know someone who got pulled and now had 3 points for smoking whilst driving

There was also there was that woman on the news who got done for eating an apple.
Old 11-04-2009 | 07:32 AM
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I see one of these every morning on my way to work, it parks in the bus stop at the beggining of a 40 zone and for some reason every fucker now drives at 20 mph ever though the road is clear enough to do 40. Twats
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time to borrow JC's Bill Oddie mask
what would they do if everyone drove round wearing a Gordon Brown rubber face mask: eating ,smoking and texting LOL

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Old 11-04-2009 | 07:43 AM
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people complain that the police should be out there catching real criminals instead of harassing motorists .people complain that its not civilians jobs to catch motorists but the polices. you cant please all the people all the time.
Old 11-04-2009 | 07:53 AM
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they have these around hillingdon borough, used to see one a lot by the width restriction at Swan Lane in Iver, i know a few people who got random tickets, one was for not letting someone else go through from the oppisite way (other drivers right of way) although in the pic they sent him, he was clearly following a big van through & wouldn't have been able to see the other side............ that along with most of the others got appealed & squashed!
Old 11-04-2009 | 08:09 AM
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do you know what i havent a problem with this, how often do you drive along and see some dopey bird yakking away on her mobile or doing her hair in the mirror, i prob see this everyday i even shout at them to get off the fookin phone ya daft tart,

ok yes blokes too but i see sooo many more women on the dog driving
Old 11-04-2009 | 08:48 AM
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i agree with the above,i see women and blokes driving like idiots with fone glued to the ear,i got caught reading a map,copper pulled me up and had a word,i put it to him would he rather me pissing about on the fone getting directions or programming a satnav,he agreed but just sed to pull over or at least keep the map out of sight,sound bloke he was.
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Disagree with the above. Its another invasion of privacy.

Wear a balaclava and have a wank when going past the car/scamera. See how good they are at proving its the owner driving then.
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isnt it down to the owner of the car now to divulge the drivers name or they take the rap?
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if they use the right amount of reason with this kind of thing then it will be used properly, however the likes of an apple being eaten and because someone didnt let someone through, try telling that to the taxi drivers round here, they do it right in front of police but does anything happen........ does it hell!
Old 11-04-2009 | 09:08 AM
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Its getting worse all the time in this country.
Old 11-04-2009 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by H19-DJA
if they use the right amount of reason with this kind of thing then it will be used properly, however the likes of an apple being eaten and because someone didnt let someone through, try telling that to the taxi drivers round here, they do it right in front of police but does anything happen........ does it hell!
my taxi driver mate tells me that the police tend not to bother them for minor indiscretions as taxi drivers are a good source of information for the police.
Old 11-04-2009 | 09:26 AM
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There are some proper fuck wits on the roads that have made it come to this

The big brother stuff won't stop at this, it'll just get worse and so will the fines!
Old 11-04-2009 | 09:33 AM
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sounds like another mobile government cash machine to me. Surely putting a 12ft mast on a smart car is dangerous some how, the car is the size of a shoe ffs, someone put a sail on it and watch it blow over
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12% were using their phones (51 out of 406)..... so what were the other 88% doing then?? Sounds like mobiles are the smallest problem, perhaps eating, stereo use, lighting a smoke, or make-up are the biggest?
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Originally Posted by mk1-orion
sounds like another mobile government cash machine to me. Surely putting a 12ft mast on a smart car is dangerous some how, the car is the size of a shoe ffs, someone put a sail on it and watch it blow over
If anyone sees one twatted under a low bridge, please post, it would be divine justice for the things!
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Eventually we will all be skint due to fines or taxes 'countrys gone to pot.
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I think its a great idea if they stop people using the phone without handsfree and stop people smoking while driving.

No doubt it will get abused though like any other power the police or councils get given.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
12% were using their phones (51 out of 406)..... so what were the other 88% doing then?? Sounds like mobiles are the smallest problem, perhaps eating, stereo use, lighting a smoke, or make-up are the biggest?
Yeah the 51/406 caught my attention too. As said already, just "another mobile government cash machine to me".
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But is not looking at the car as you approach or drive past not distracting you in itself? You thinking "Oh, its one of them camera cars" as you haven't seen one, you take your eyes off the road. Therefore its a distraction!

I don't agree with how alot of people drive (Everyone should take the advance driving and bike test IMO), but this is taking the piss. The Government keep spending money on new ways to Tax the motorist, so have to Tax us more to pay for things like this!
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I got caught stopping on a double yellow line so my mate could run into mc donalds by one of those fucking things Ł60 fine. i am currently saying i was broken down and they went in for water and taking it to court. They letter sais if you dont pay we may take you to court.

Coonts!!!
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thats fleecing no t policing!!!!
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apparantly smoking whilst driving will be illegal very soon anyway (good job imo)
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Claims Care Centre
apparantly smoking whilst driving will be illegal very soon anyway (good job imo)
Makes perfect sense to me.
Old 11-04-2009 | 10:25 AM
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Where does it stop though, whilst eating/drinking whilst driving is an offence(unless exempt on medical grounds) smoking is not an offence, which involves taking hand/s off wheel, would love to see this appealed, be very interesting, plod do it all the time on thier radio's, maybe we shoudl all not change gear, or drive an automatic ?
It's more deterrant value than anything else, it's not illegal to touch the stereo, or to take hand off wheel to change gear/apply e-brake etc, put window up/down, adjust heating, the list is endless, but I do agree smoking should be banned.
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Old 11-04-2009 | 10:29 AM
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you are right tabs were would it stop.

i drive 1 handed everywere i be honest i have 1 hand on gearstick and one on wheel. soon they will stop that
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Originally Posted by collierm
See how good they are at proving its the owner driving then.
no because then the owner gets a MS90 on there licence (which is points or a ban )
o and the new card licence bit looks cooler than it did (i know i am sad)

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Originally Posted by Stu @ Claims Care Centre
apparantly smoking whilst driving will be illegal very soon anyway (good job imo)
It is illegal alrerady! has been for years.

As said I know someone who got done and recieved 3 points for smoking
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
It is illegal alrerady! has been for years.

As said I know someone who got done and recieved 3 points for smoking

dont think it is mate its only illegal if you looked to be driving badly whilst smoking!

im sure thats what i got told anyways
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just looked on a site its illegal in scotland
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What if you get distracted by a fine looking bird on the pavement, do you get fined for that?
Old 11-04-2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TDEzzy85
What if you get distracted by a fine looking bird on the pavement, do you get fined for that?
Hope not, i cant afford that
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Wonder how hard it would be to tip one over......
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Using a fone, eating, dancing, talking to your mate etc etc is all fine, nothing wrong with it at all...the driving standards are what need changing....people have been using fones, talking to mates, eating and listening to the radio for yrs and yrs but now its a massive big deal....CHANGE THE DRIVING TEST AND TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO FUCKING DRIVE!!!!!
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Originally Posted by neilm
Wonder how hard it would be to tip one over......
I think the Police Officer inside it may have something to say to you.
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Originally Posted by focusv8
I think the Police Officer inside it may have something to say to you.
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yeah "please put me back on my wheels"
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Mr Downes said the cars would only trace people who are committing an offence.

And in the video it said the same, as in, they would only zoom the camera on you if they saw you actually commiting an offence already.
So to me that means speeding D/D weaving, whatever, then they would see with the camera if it "could" be being caused by whatever else you may be doing, in my case that WILL be smoking or maybe eating, BUT that should only be if ive already done summit wrong.
Again it like cameras in a way only maybe more so, that if you dont spot a camera on a 12ft mast then maybe you ARENT paying enough attention to whats happening ahead of you, reading far enough forward. Ok on clear open road that may not be the case depending how far it can zoom clearly, (cameras where I used to work could zoom a fooking long way clearly).
I know in reality it wont work like that , but maybe they should also need to provide the video eveidence of the original offence for it to be admissable as eveidence ?
Mind you they probs are constantly recording anyway and will have that as well, just keeps like the last hours events recorded on the disc and doesnt overwrite it in that time untill no other acts need recording for evidence then it could overwrite and start again, so not beyond the realms of possibility again.

Oh and just for the sake of it again, shall we drag up all the old arguments of how me smoking dont make me a worse driver than if i wasnt smoking :P
Like Stu said i very rarely drive with two hands on the wheel anyway smoking or not, so makes no difference to me, only if i wasnt allowed to smoke i would be stressing as to when i could have one so not concentrating on the road so well !

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