crazycage

i just dropped a 5lb bottle off to be filled and the guys said i would be lucky if it gets me down the 1/4mile once!! but i really dont no so has anyone yoused a 5lb bottle its a 2.0 16valve turbo on 25hp jets

crazycage

anyone ?????

Icurus

I have a 5lb bottle with a WON 50 bhp setup and I get just over 60 seconds out of it, so that should see you a few runs up the strip I would have thought!

Give it a go and find out

And if you use it in an anti lag setup it should last even longer.

You know that 25 in on a turbo'd ebngine usually equates to a 50bhp increase?

crazycage

yes i was aware of that, and 60 seconds would be be about 6 runs and thats about what i thought it would do so thats cool.
p.s wont be using it as anti lag .

fuzzy

is that all you get? 60 seconds from a 5lb bottle? how much is a refill?

Lloyd

sounds about right

Chip

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on 25bhp jets, that should last you all day at the drag strip!

RWD_cossie_wil

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Expensive hobby

Chip

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About 10p a second on 25bhp jets, lol

RWD_cossie_wil

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I can get pure 100% Liquid oxygen from work, wonder if that would be any good? ....Should put cat amongst pigeons anyway

Si B

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My last refill, years back, was Ł4.50 per lb.

I think I worked out if you had your own bulk tank you could reduce the cost to nearer Ł2 per lb of gas.

As you'd expect from that, my 10lb bottle cost me Ł45 to fill.

bigchez

Dunno if its an urban myth or not but I heard they stored pressurised liquid oxygen in the tubes of the roll cages in rally cars many moons ago

Chip

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That would be fucking lethal if there was a fire.
Nitrous would be a LOT safer.

Plus you'd find the accident funny

GavStyli

if u remember right lol was told by WON that an 11lbs bottle will last around 11 minutes with 25 shot jet.
so your full bottle should last around 5mins if the system is setup proper
good idea to have a heater blanket with pressure switch to keep the pressure of the bottle the same all day

Rod-Tarry

11lb bottle is Ł66 now & can get just over 1min of usefull Nitrous from that with 200bhp jets thats nearly Ł1 a second . Dont believe all this double the horsepower nonsense on a RR 50bhp jets gave 45bhp.

Icurus

I was only quoting Trevor Langford, as I have not got a turbo to prove or disprove that claim

crazycage

thats what trevor told me yesterday when i bought a load of jets off him!! to start off with the 25hp set up (a 20 and a 50 jet) that would see upto 50bhp on my turbo engine.

crazycage

for now im just going to have a go at central and see what its like! but if i get into it then i will get a heater and a controller. but that will be after i do a mtx75 box because this is going to die at central day lol

Chip

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Approx consumption = 1lb per min at 25bhp, so yes I agree with trevor more or less.

I would argue that the last pound or so isnt useable though

So more like 4 mins on a 5lb bottle.

Chip

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It depends on application, on a typical application you will be getting on for double the BHP for smaller shots, the larger the shot becomes though, the less this happens, until eventually you are struggling to even make the jetted amount, especially on a small highly stressed engine.

So both trevor and rod are correct based on my experince of it, they are just each talking about a slightly different aspect of it.

Also the worse your intercooler, the more power you will gain of course, as the extra gains are largely about the cooling effect.

Chip

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crazycage, i would try taking some 50bhp jets with you, that tends to work well fixed hit on a 2.0 16v turbo generally IME.

crazycage

well that sounds like really good value if it lasts that long its about 20 10second bursts

crazycage

ive got some 50 jets and was planing on taking them with me , but was worried if it hits the rev limiter when it comes in and spins the wheels up as i was told this is not good???

Chip

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You dont want to be hitting the rev limiter on nitrous no, things can get fairly interesting if you do.

crazycage

would you say i would be better off getting a controller if i was going to use the 50 jets ?

Chip

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Oh fuck me yes, makes a massive difference!

Especially a decent one like a max extreme or a maximiser.

andy escos

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you got no chance of doing a 10 sec 1/4 try15___16 sec 1/4 so you will not get that many runs in .

Chip

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you dont use nitrous for 100% of the run.

crazycage

no shit sherlock i wont be using the gas in the first two gears and should be in the low 13s poss high 12s so thats were i got 10seconds from lol
p.s if does a 15-16sec 1/4 ill burn it at the bottom of the strip lol