Tazz88

I had to take the car to get it's MOT and while i was waiting i saw these parked up lol











It's a shame really how that havent been restored or anything just left to rot away

Paddy

That Merc needs rescuing!

WTF is the red one? Looks like a dino replica? [with Marina door handles ] It's obviously fibreglass... but on a proper number plate and not a Q??

maxest

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People dont know what theyve got! I would love that nissan primera

sedan man

i think that red car is called a nova.

based on a beetle i think.

Paddy

Aren't they the ones with the pop-up cockpit like an old fighter plane?

orion_crazy_carl

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i think they failed and the owners never picked them up

Elvis

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Mate, Where in north london? as im in north london, might go up and make an offer on one

PM me if you want

scoobypete

whats that red thing?i want it :P

Tazz88

Some Garage in totty if u want proper details i'll pm them to you

Elvis

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Yeah please mate, that would be great.

Elvis

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i like the look of that ferrari rep, as its fibreglass and the chasis should just be made from box section.

Lee Ivatt

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yeh defo not a beetle/nova.

they were longer and with the jet fighter pop up.

Also this red thing has 5 stud hubs. beetles changed from 5 stud to 4 stud in the mid 50's

Looks very much like a ferrari dino replica.

can see some jag guages and what look like cortina bits of trim.

so my guess is the chassis/donor vehicle is something British Layland related.

When i restored the Aston Martin it was amazing how many parts aston had borrowed from the layland daf parts bin.

Mk2 cortina indicators, jag door handles and morris marina inner dood handles to name a few parts

That old white thing looks the most intrest, some sort of old alvis?

Defo worth the most money out of those 3.

Lee Ivatt

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no mate, chassis will be from donor car hence the F registration.

If it was box then it would almost certainly be a Q plate.

Trying to think what it could be looking at the donor parts.

Id hedge a bet on the chassis being something like a triumph TR5 or 6 maybe.

depends where the engine is on it

Elvis

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Most of them Ferrari Dino reps use beetle stuff

look nice when done.


deffo going to go down and make an offer on it

Lee Ivatt

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Yeh makes sence, especially with the engine being out back.

Whats an f reg 1967? I suppose it is just possible it is a beetle chassis on 5 lug wheels.

Could look the part but never gona sound anything special.

Ive had a 1970,1971 and 1949 beetle and done major work on 2 mates bay campers, so know my way around them pretty well.


If it is a vw floor pan then if you have the money you may be intrested to know a subaru inpreza turbo engine bolts straight in!!!!

now that would be fun!!!!

Cragrat

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agree with the alvis suggestion,did think citroen but it rhd,

gotta love the suicide doors on it

there an old citroen near me outside a garage rotting away,absolute crime

Elvis

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impreza powered ferrari replica, dont give me idea's
that would be mad though. as soon as i get the pm where the garge is i will go down there and check it out/ask about it.


and to be honest, i would rather have a rep than the real thing even if i could afford the real one,
I only like how ferraris look, and thats where it ends,
Although i do hate the f355 and f360 reps built on mr2's

i understand replicas of rare cars, like lancia stratos, ac cobra, ferrari deno, porsche 350, rs200, but hate the mr2 based modern ferraris, as a good rep is not "that" much less than a real one.

Lee Ivatt

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dont laugh mate.

Ive seen lots of beetles with scooby engines in them, they litterally bolt straight in (well almost) seen sub 10sec 1/4 at santa pod!

take a butchers, drive in drive out service! or buy a kit to do your self
http://www.dccustoms.co.uk/home.htm

Was gna put a scoob lump in my 1949, but the lynch mob got all hot and bothered

Elvis

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should have done it,

i always hate the "your ruining it" "dont mess with it" etc comments, as its your car...

i cut up a sapphire cossie with an angle grinder and got moaned at

Dangerous Malcolm..

+1.

Sod the rest, that's no way for a classic merc to end its days.

Lee Ivatt

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I had to weld up one of these last year for a customer to get it ready for MOT, it hasnt moved since

He also has a 300sl, and a uber rare gull wing. Both have not moved in 5 years. also 2 E type jags have been sitting there since i did the welding on the merc.

Makes me sick, these cars should be enjoyed, whats the point buying them to just cover them up only to deteiorate

believe me a 1949 standard trim beetle is rare!!! i didnt have the heart to mess with it, i owed it to the car to be true to it!!

Elvis

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Should have done it just to piss off the enthusiasts

would be the ultimate sleeper though

Lee Ivatt

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then no one would have bought it from me

A restored standard 1949 split screen beetle is worth Ł25+ these days

keep us updated with the news, intresting to see whats lurking under all that fiberglass!!!

(ps dont forget to up date me on kitty, she got a name yet?)

Elvis

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Well my daughters want to call her princess or Katty.

Loony

looks like a car graveyard shame theyve been left, couldve been someones pride n joy

Elvis

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Got the garage address now

going down in the morning.
will be asking about the dino rep, but i will see how much he will let the others go for and post up

DanW@FastFord

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The red thing is a 'Karma'. Mostly Beetle based, and a bit shit! It's a later version with the sloping rear window (The first ones had a vertical window more like an actual Dino).

It's probably worth a couple of hundred quid max if it's complete.

Mike C

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No, it's a Riley RMF

and it's gorgeous, sod the Merc off, I'll have that!

Elvis

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thought it was a karma,

if its any good underneith, i will get it as a project.

Fil

KFJ702F = Make VOLKSWAGEN


tho the merc looks interesting?

Elvis

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Yeah, its a karma kit built on a bettle, has a 1700 engine in it
Date of First Registration 05 12 1967
Date of Liability 01 05 1997

so it should be tax exempt now lets hope the chasis is solid. and the bloke will sell it,

i cant see him wanting to keep it.

Elvis

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just been reeding up on these even more, aparently you can fit a CVH one :O

so if its any good i might well fit a rs engine to it.

Psycho Warren

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Not true.

Kit cars have been using the donor vehicle registration for decades. You just have to transfer a certain number of componants. Doesnt matter if your using a bespoke box section chassis or not. You will find that cars using an original unmodified chassis will just be a kit conversion not a complete new car and that should be stated on the V5. eg the toyota MR2's with ferrari 355 body kits should still be registered as a toyota MR2 as its technically the same vehicle. Something with a bespoke chassis should be registered as a kit car eg "dax tojiero" on the v5 NOT as a jaguar which would have supplied most the donor car parts.

Theres a lot of incorrectly registered kit cars out there and with the new "SVA" or whatever they are replacing the SVA with, they will likely be picked up during MoT's and forced through testing to get correct registration and likely end up Q plate if theres no documents to prove the kit build etc.

Lee Ivatt

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Not always mate

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022486

Ive done a lot of research into kit cars. as I very nearly build a mid engines V8 beetle and also a "brand new" GT40. But for a stupid reason decided to buy an escort cosworth instead

It basically works on a points system

Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts


In order to retain the original registration mark:

• cars and car-derived vans must use:

The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
And two other major components from the original vehicle - ie suspension (front & back); steering assembly; axles (both); transmission or engine.

The dino rep falls directly into this category if it has the beetle chassis mentioned

If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is used, the vehicle must pass a an enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA) or single vehicle approval (SVA) test after which a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.

If it was abeetle chassis with say a mustang 2 front end (very common in kitcars) and say a CVH engine mounted out back then it would need an SVA and get a Q.

DOnt forget this car has been sitting for many years. the rules were slacker back in the day.

As for my V8 beetle, i did lots of emails with a guy at VOSA/DVLA and if I mounted the V8 to the chassis I was told i couls keep the reg (my concern was keeping it so it remained tax exempt)

But if I chopped the chassis and incorporatce a space frame for the engine and transmisson then it would lose itd identity and get a Q, meaning i had to pay road tax.

dojj

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i saw an old merc yesterday, with micky thompson big wheels on it, and when i say big, these were fookin huge

and it was a coop with a vynal foor too

pics on the phone so up later

Elvis

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when i got there it was not open, So i will be going on monday morning.
I deffo want it, will be a great summer car.

cossydave

this may help you peeps
The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for KFJ 702F are:

Date of Liability 01 05 1997
Date of First Registration 05 12 1967
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1700CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry


its a volkswagon according to DVLA records, hope this helps you
cheers Dave

cozzfather

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i remember seeing a beetle with 928 rear end parts fitted with a legacy rs 4 cam motor back in about 1990,it was a shocker back then that they went in.

morcheen

can they be seen on google street thingy i wonder ?

Ginge !

pmsl at the fridge and camp bed also dumped there,,, typical allyway in north london