Jim Galbally

ok when people refer to a diff as a "quaife diff" i assume they mean a std diff with uprated/stronger components? or are they refering to an ATB diff?

anyhow... with either, would there be and different effects (when tring to donut) to a normal standard LSD jobby...

we had b19bal's car in a big carpark earlier... it wont donut! its like a car without a slipper... spins a lot but just goes in a big wide circle (like mine )

any thoughts?

Stavros

A quaife diff should have far more lock in it than standard, which should help it donut, not make it worse.

You can donut a car without a LSD anyhow

I could donut the old A-reg 1.6 pinto sierra i had as a runaround when i was 18 as long as the ground was slippy, you think THAT had a LSD?

My 3dr would donut easy and the LSD was wanked on that, half the time on a fullbore launch itd only lay down 1 tyre mark...

Think yall need a crash course in how to act like idiots

Phil

iTrader: (1)

Let me guess, you tried to drive into a donut from a rolling start? Thats the usual mistake. Start from a standstill, put on full lock and do a big sidestep launch to get the wheels spinning. It's much easier this way!!

Stavros

Exactly.

But even from a rolling start with Ginges spec it would donut if you was brutal enough with the steering n engine.

20mph roller in 1st, suddenly lots of lock while foot to floor n dip the clutch quickly at same time, and around youd go, LSD or not.

With a decent diff like Ginge is mean to have it should make it easy.

You either not got it on enough lock (ie not full), your being dead gay with the power, or the front geometrys sooooo bad it understeers under full lock n power (and i cant see that somehow on a RWD of any kind)

Jim Galbally

phil, tried cucking everything...couldnt even get the sodding arse end to hang out... lol

3 of us tried... (switch moreso than the rest of us ) wouldnt do it...

Jim Galbally

its like it'd spin up and understeer!

mine's exactly the same sometimes (sometimes lsd works, sometimes not... lol) but i know its coz its just spinning up one wheel

pugo

my thoughts are !!!!! you do not know how to start the donut off!!!!!

try dipping the clutch whilst you do your initial turn in, once the car is turning hard (with the clutch still depressed) drop the clutch in and nail the fooker.....!

she will donut round and round

you want to do it from a standing start.........?

put the strg hard one way, nail the fooker and as you drop the clutch in swap pedals(heal and toe) and lightly feather the brake with your left foot.....

that will smoke it proper bo!!!!!!if you master it right , as you grab 2nd you can do a huge powerslide out of it
All the chavs will think your a god


BIG WARNING
be prepared for plenty of diff,clutch,g/box explosions


Pugo

Phil

iTrader: (1)

A Quaife ATB will only spin one wheel only if it loses contact with the ground.

Are you sure its a Quaife diff and not just a fubar standard one?

The otehr problem can be trying too hard and spinning out! Once going you shouldn't need much throttle in a Cossie to keep it spinning. Although I have noticed not many people can donut cossies properly, i'm definitely not very good myself! Whereas people jump straight into a beemer and it sits on the spot doing circles all night no hastle..

Maybe someone can shed some light on how to donut a Cossie properly!

Rick

It's blatently obvious. Youare all gay...

Azrael

Well I can't do donoughts properly in mine, but a friend rally driver does them all day in the same car, he says it a matter of right angle in the steering and lifting off at the right moments.

CosKev3

If thats a pic of you in your avatar you've got some neck calling any1 gay

keithG666

been telling them that for ages now

dumped

I "accidently" launched my cossie the other day - brand new quaife diff and sideways whole way down road while held there - will deffo donut!

Kev.H

Oranoco

pmsl

No prizes for guessing what you lot were getting up to after Mac and I cleared off home

Jim Galbally

all techniques described above... i tried... lol

its not like i don't know how to donut a car, i used to do my old motors all the time...

its not just the donut bit, its just getting the arse end out... there's no "back end feels lights, round it goes" sensation... just makes lots of wheelspinny noise, lots of smoke pouring from tyres, and car goes round in big big circle

steve rs

i just full lock it and dump the clutch to get it spinning then straight into 2nd
and round and round it goes.

keithG666

simple answer to it all........

SWITCH AND GINGE CAN'T DRIVE!!!!!

brad

it aint rocket science is it
either the cars totally fooked and someone has secretly converted it to front wheel drive or your doing something wrong

mark

Jim Galbally

so IF it has an ATB then it should still go round like a normal sierra then?

Phil

iTrader: (1)

IF it has an ATB it will go round better than a normal Sierra!

Ginge !

ok few things to point out, if got fooking huge tyres on the car and i dont fucking wanna learn how to go round in fucking circles


i have no interest in that shit, totally pointless fucking post tbh, oh and jim remeber i have had a boost leak too and i dont get full boost on first


this will never be attempted again as its fucking useless


i couldnt give a fuck if my car dont do circles,


oh and could the clutch slip be a cause too


sorry guys but thats tooooo chav type nova shot for me, fair play i drove like a pussy but i got a cossie to be a fast car, if i wanna go round in circles ill go to a kids playground where it wont cost me a few quid in spares and then i can have fun on the slide too


fun is driving from 1 point to anther fast


the point of last night was about if i loose the back end to control it, what use is it if the back end goes i can go round in circles for a few mins

mark

Jim Galbally

ginge, i forgot

Benn 304R

the bemmer goes round well and that dont have a lsd

wes

Donuts are gay , it's about as interesting as watching paint dry, traction is your friend

If your running adjustable koni dampers, set the rears to medium and set the fronts to 2 turns from full soft i.e. set them to full soft and then turn the adjuster 2 full turns the other way (they do 3 full turns with the koni adjuster). My mates 2wd saph had the same problem when he 1st got it, previous owner set the koni's to full soft front and rear, handled like a boat Now it's nice and predicatable through the twisties

Stavros

donuts might be gay, but if you got a RWD that wont even do them then you got no chance of drifting it, and also no chance its handling properly

OR

your just all patheticly poor drivers

Has ANY of you that attempted it in Ginges car ever done donuts before?

And how can Donuts be a Chav/Nova type thing Ginge? Novas are FWD, like your car seems to be...

Benn 304R

wes

Exactley why i questioned the suspension setup

Ginge !

steve, my car does loose traction , trust me, never had a issue doing that, donuts, pass, steve will bigger tyres make it difficult ( big and wide tyres that is )



sorry but the hole car park donut thing is a bit too chav, sorry mate not trying to offend but to me it seems to be a really hard thing to do that looks easy #


bit like wheel spinning out of mcdonalds, now drifting to me looks difficult and impressive, looks better if ya dont car and ya fook off out of sight very fast too #




each to there own

Jim Galbally

steve its got the power there trust me... lol

Ginge !

front suspention is set to fook of hard on konis, not sure the rear setting of the konis and that requires more that just turning a key, you have to get a spanner out and get dirty so fook doing that imo


oh and i got a caravan assister things on the rear and the back is lowered too ( i fucking hate it too )


steve ya gonna get a pm too

Ginge !

power is not a issue, its a smooth power delivery high up the rev range though


its holding 25psi to the limiter, that to me is resonable

oh and it also runs lean past 6000rpm in 4th and 5th, cant be that slow to do that imo

Stavros

Thing is tho ginge, learning to do donuts is the FIRST thing any drifter has to learn.

They start with donuts, then drifted circles (ie BIG donuts), then figure8s, once you can do all that REALLY well, to be honest, you will be able to drift round corners like there no tomorrow

Ginge !

steve i dont like figure 8's, ya get lobbed round the car , thats actually dificult


very good point made, just i would feel like a saxo boy who built up his no claims and bought his first cossie and now thinks his colin mcrae of the road


im more into power and fast acceleration and an adult acting like a child

Switch

so whyh do ya drive it soooo fookin slow even Clare in her smart car was quicker than you

As for me not able to donut ya car... well i can do it in mine and have done it in a few other cars., much prefer drifting but then fookin around in car parks like that is where ya start, or at least i did

Ginge !

scot notice the fast acceleration !!!!, not hoooooooooooge make e wanna cry top speed, if i wanted top speed id buy a figther plane


this is a fun car i can carry the baby and the cleaner in, she dont want be going 200 mph with her in the car, Elise would find it fun like normal though

Benn 304R

Well, I have 10x17 on the rear of the bemmer shod with pirelli p6 and still no trouble

Why dont ya let me have a go m8

Steve200+

Aye, always seemed to be dead simple in mine, as I'm a total child in charge of a 300hp RWD bus

1. Call suitable loan company and make sure your credit is good
2. Ascertain that your correct model of tyres are in stock
3. Ring the AA, and have the nearest van driver put on danger money
4. Call friends and check you have a replacement diff available
5. Ring the AA back just to make sure
6. Select an armful of full right lock
7. Instruct passenger to hold cheeseburger
8. Hoof right foot down in manner similar to squashing a cockroach
9. Have a final look round for any jam sandwiches
10. Drop clutch, and enjoy the sheer noise and tyre smoke
11. Get out and gleefully examine 6mm of tread stuck to your inner arch
12. Sob as you remember they were 225/40/17 Eagle F1's