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Old 20-03-2009, 02:02 AM
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Thousands of motorists are at risk of being fined up to £1,000 because they are unwittingly driving without a valid licence.

They risk prosecution after failing to spot the extremely small print on their photocard licence which says it automatically expires after 10 years and has to be renewed - even though drivers are licensed to drive until the age of 70. The fiasco has come to light a decade after the first batch of photo licences was issued in July 1998, just as they start to expire.

Motoring organisations blamed the Government for the fiasco and said 'most' drivers believed their licences were for life.
A mock-up driving licence from 1998 when the photocards were launched shows the imminent expiry date as item '4b' They said officials had failed to publicise sufficiently the fact that new-style licences - unlike the old paper ones - expire after a set period and have to be renewed.

To rub salt into wounds, drivers will have to pay £17.50 to renew their card - a charge which critics have condemned as a 'stealth tax' and which will earn the Treasury an estimated £437 million over 25 years. Official DVLA figures reveal that while 16,136 expired this summer, so far only 11,566 drivers have renewed, leaving 4,570 outstanding. With another 300,000 photocard licences due to expire over the coming year, experts fear the number of invalid licences will soar, putting thousands more drivers in breach of the law and at risk of a fine.

At the heart of the confusion is the small print on the tiny credit-card-size photo licence, which is used in conjunction with the paper version.
4b: The small print on the back of the driving licence is easy to miss
Just below the driver name on the front of the photocard licence is a series of dates and details - each one numbered.
Number 4b features a date in tiny writing, but no explicit explanation as to what it means.
The date's significance is only explained if the driver turns over the card and reads the key on the back which states that '4b' means 'licence valid to'.

Even more confusingly, an adjacent table on the rear of the card sets out how long the driver is registered to hold a licence - that is until his or her 70th birthday. A total of 25 million new-style licences have been issued but - motoring experts say - drivers were never sufficiently warned they would expire after 10 years.
The DVLA said failure to update the photocard after 10 years fell into the same category as failing to inform them of a change of address.


CHECK YOUR LICENCE EXPIRY DATE!!!
Old 20-03-2009, 07:53 AM
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yes mine had expired
Old 20-03-2009, 07:56 AM
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thanks fot that!!!!

Mine was nicked out my wallet a short while ago - but I wouldn't have thought it would be in date for much longer if at all
Old 20-03-2009, 08:35 AM
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I noticed mine had an expiry date on the card of 04-04-15 and my paper one said 26-07-47 just thought it was a typing mistake on the card and was going to ignore it
Old 20-03-2009, 08:52 AM
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Sweet. valid till 2046, but maybe thats cause I had mine updated in 2002 when I passed by bike test.

Thanks for the info.
Old 20-03-2009, 09:02 AM
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Mines the ancient simple paper type - ive never had the need to apply for a photocard one, so i'm technically old fashioned, but legal!
Old 20-03-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Mines the ancient simple paper type - ive never had the need to apply for a photocard one, so i'm technically old fashioned, but legal!


or are you ?
Old 20-03-2009, 09:05 AM
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I thought paper ones werent valid anymore as well Spiky
Old 20-03-2009, 09:25 AM
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I recived a letter on Monday saying mine runs out in the next few months. Cheeky gits wont £17.50 to renew it


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Old 20-03-2009, 09:30 AM
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Paper ones are still valid, or the 3 points that were put on mine the other week dont count either lol
Old 20-03-2009, 10:03 AM
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i got a letter other week to renew mine its £17.50 i think its wrong guess i best get a move on and renew it tho dont want a big fine
Old 20-03-2009, 10:07 AM
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Does that £17.50 include the removal of any expired points that are now older than 4 years?
Old 20-03-2009, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Does that £17.50 include the removal of any expired points that are now older than 4 years?
Pretty sure it will m8, i had all my expired points removed for free when i changed my address
Old 20-03-2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
or are you ?

I am indeed. The requirement for photocard licences for the likes of me (who hasnt moved house or lost it etc etc) is and was voluntary.
Old 20-03-2009, 10:43 AM
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Mines due this Year! I do know that you have to update it every 10years cause of the photo?? but think they should have informed people better..
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my licence is for an able bodied person - i ain't got no spaz licence
Old 20-03-2009, 10:57 AM
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my photo run out next month... thankfully i can get rid of me with bleached hair on it
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