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Old 18-03-2009, 10:11 PM
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Unhappy Clutch on ST170

Took the wifes car out on weekend seems the clutch is slipping........called at local garage they first told me £350 for a new one fitted now it turns out ford say the flywheel has to be changed along with any new clutch.............looking more like £800-£900 now..........anyone heard this before?

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Old 18-03-2009, 10:12 PM
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Are they that dual mass flywheel thing? Heard they were expensive to fix. Also heard you can convert them back to normal flywheel? Is this true??
Old 18-03-2009, 10:31 PM
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They are indeed a dual mass flywheel - unfortunately it is common to need to replace at the same time as a clutch.

I've got a second hand clutch and flywheel i took out of a donor engine/box for my project.

PM me if its of interest
Old 18-03-2009, 10:35 PM
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Well thats put me off buying a ST170 now.
Old 18-03-2009, 10:39 PM
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[quote=Glenny Boy;4019749]Well thats put me off buying a ST170
Just buy one that's had it done - i got to 50,000 on mine and then one traffic light grand prix saw the end of it

Still managed another few thousand easy miles on it before i fixed it

You can go to solid flywheels but they'll be nasty to drive at low speed/pullaway etc. - the whole point of the dual mass is to refine driveability and smooth gearchange engagement
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Unhappy

looks like there's no way out then
Old 18-03-2009, 11:07 PM
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Steve, Will has said he's got a good second hand unit for ya.
Old 19-03-2009, 10:26 PM
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Steve, Will has said he's got a good second hand unit for ya.
Indeed he has pm m8ty
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[QUOTE=Will @ M Developments;4019760]
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Well thats put me off buying a ST170
Just buy one that's had it done - i got to 50,000 on mine and then one traffic light grand prix saw the end of it

Still managed another few thousand easy miles on it before i fixed it

You can go to solid flywheels but they'll be nasty to drive at low speed/pullaway etc. - the whole point of the dual mass is to refine driveability and smooth gearchange engagement
Were alot of these changed under warrenty?I love the STs and i know they arnt gonna be a flying machine.If it was a 1.6 i would still buy one.
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Why does it not being a 1.6 matter?
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Well thats put me off buying a ST170 now.

i have just bought one, pick it up today lol
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Nice one mate.Have you sold the escort.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Nice one mate.Have you sold the escort.
no not yet got people interested but not heard anything back yet
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When i had my ST170 from new the first week i had it the clutch started to clip and ford changed the flywheel and clutch.

With the dual mass flywheel tho i was never be able to launch it hard or it would just slip or if you changed gear really quickly high up the revs it seemed to jam in until you let off the revs even with the new one.

Anyone else experience that?

Changing to the soliday flywheel does it have the same problems that someone was talking about a while back about it can snap the crank if you dont change the pulley on the other end IRRC on a mondeo that was tho.
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Or right well fingers crossed for you mate.Will you not miss it when its gone though.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Or right well fingers crossed for you mate.Will you not miss it when its gone though.
yeh i will miss it no doubt. it felt weird driving the st i were waiting for turbo to kick in lol
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My st170 has done 55k and the clutch is starting to slip very slightly when pulling away hard in first from the lights.

I've put the extra large bucket of lube on order at work so I can prepare myself for whats gonna happen in a few months time
Old 20-03-2009, 10:56 AM
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My st170 has covered 94k now - should I start setting aside a clutch fund? :-(

No slipping evident at the mo - I've covered 75k of it's mileage so quite sure it's on the original clutch
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My brother in law works for a lease company.... I was telling him about this problem today and he says that ford don't make enough money out of just doing a clutch so they tell you the flywheel is damaged. Apparently it goes blue from the heat from the clutch or sommat... I aint that technical.

Basically, he said its a load of bollocks that you need to change the flywheel every time... he just tells em to change the clutch itself when the cars go in for em and he's never had a problem. He has asked ford several times for pictures of what they class as a damaged flywheel.... he's never received any. His advice... just tell em to do the clutch.
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