JamesSeries1Turbo

Hey guys,

Looking for advice on where to take my RS for a setup/tune. Been told a couple of places already am in Edinburgh area. The 2 Ive been told to try are Ace Performance and Ava. Heard Ava Know what they are doing but ace performance get the goods out car without being to harsh? Any info or help about these places or others are welcome

CheeRS

CRAIG HAYTER

i have heard all good comments about AVA to be 100% honest

boothy

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wouldnt go near sitech though mate.......

sara

why not

JamesSeries1Turbo

hey guys thanks for the help. Think I will go to AVA heard alot more about them than ace performance. Y not sitech? dodgy are they?

stevenebm

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thats a big statement there mate about sitech as i havent heard any bad stories so you will have to back that up

carlo

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Ace performance get the goods could go on crying with laughter all day who told you that dereck himself ? did he take you out in his 800bhp escort as well

Coldo

AVA are good, they know what they are doing, however as said before, don't expect service with a smile Alan is a miserable bastard. Although he is a good guy, and AVA have a good rep, in general.



Why not? Simon at Sitech is a clever bloke, met him a couple of times and he comes across very proffesional and knowledgeable. I would be more than happy to take my car to him - haven't heard otherwise either?

baba

id say sitech mate or agmotorsport.
Ava has a few horror stories on here search.
and ace ventura..........mans a fucking idiot!

brizie

Thought agmotorsports just dealt with cossies?

KnoxyGtt

I would say Sitech also, they know where there doing with rst's and i have never ever heard a bad thing about them in my cream puff

kidsRS

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big up sitech not! bunch of muppets!

Steven_RW

For a simple rst setup I cannot ever see why you would use anyone but AVA. They will run the car up on the rollers, set it as best as possible with what u provide, tell u the next steps if you want and not set the boost at a massive figure so you can show your mates, instead optimising the engine first and then adding the appropriate amount of boost. Just recall that my old rsturbo did 150mph down brunters on 12psi of boost after AVA set it up. I appreciate it had a few other mods but the point still stands. Alan is a good lad, just bored to death of the bullshit that floats around I guess.

Cheers!

RW

JamesSeries1Turbo

hey guys thanks for the replys, couple of guys at work told me about ace performance lol guess thats a nono? have been swayed towards Ava as id never heard of sitech where are they situated? Still leaves me with same problem except now its AVA or sitech lmao can tell you the car is 'supposed' to be running 183bhp but just want a good setting up as do not know whats happened etc with it. Just want it running sweet and quicker than is just now

boothy

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There was a post yesterday, guy bought rst off pistonheads sitech owned the car... as soon as the guy got the car 3 days later endless problems with the car that he (sitech) supposed to have miantained the car, does not say much about his company does it ??

JamesSeries1Turbo

Think my mind been made up will give AVA a shout cheers

SOO

my mate's rs turdo has had a fortune spent on it at sitech,it went up the first time got a cam and fuel metering head,got it back,same problem got told it needed a rebuild done that got it back,engine wasnt the best,then the turbo went lol!!

good for my mate that the car is no longer on the road, so he wont be wasting money up there now,but he learned the hard way,ava for rs turbo's is where its at

ConnollyGT30

Simon definitely knows his stuff...the quality of the workmanship on the cars i have seen his work on are 100% spot on...his work speaks for itself...

SOO

well must have been havin a bad day everytime my mates motor went up

ConnollyGT30

There always seems to be someone with a 'mate' or a 'mate of a mate of a mate' with some kind of story about a garage no matter how good their rep is...its all a bit to me...never heard a bad thing said about sitech before and they have churned out some good cars...

SOO

well he aint just my mate,theres a few people on here that know him,and know that sitech did not do as good a job as he is supposed to do!!

i understand where your coming from but i think if andrew had this much trouble and the guy who bought a car from simon had this much trouble (to the point where he needs a new engine) then i wouldnt go to him,its as simple as that,btw you on commision or somethin??

ConnollyGT30

No i just think simon is a top bloke ang i have seen results of his work 1st hand...can you put a link up to this post from the guy with this car from yesterday mate?

Turbogal75

Why???? Have Sitech ever worked on your car????? Hmmmm think not

fordrs2005

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sounds like your old motor mate eh

but got to agree with you only ever heard good things bout sitech any second hand car that was mentained by some garage does,nt mean there liable for anything going wrong with them specially an old rs turbo everytime you drive them you,ve got to expect the worst .

Turbogal75

Do you know any of the Sitech guys????????

ConnollyGT30

Aye it does mate...just joined this tonight lol

Any1 got a link to this post with the guy who needs a new engine??

derekg7156

I have heard good and bad reports about most tunners, the way I see it is if you give them shit to work with and dont want to spend the money to get it sorted properly you get the same shit back. They can only work with what you give them

sas

Andrew - now thats a long story.
Came to me for a set up as car running badly, many problems like ECU wiring, cracked plugs, running lean and boost turned up to high - Fixed that.

Came back a couple of months later with poor running, worn out cam followed by big end failure so did a very basic rebuild as he had little money. The turbo was also smoking badly so sugested a new one, he got a second hand one, which failed so he got another.

Starting issues so got car sent back to me on an AA truck, car was out of petrol due to dodgy guage and fuel metering head not working correctly so I gave him my old one from my car for free and put fuel in.

The car was full of problems that he could not afford to fix. I did what I could with his budget.

Simon.

ConnollyGT30

What is the story on this car?

Daviet

he came to you for a setup.the car had been running fine he just wanted set up for peace of mind and to make sure was running spot on.

he came back a few months later as car was knocking badly.you told him it was only a cam and you replaced that.he then got as far as forth road bridge and car was worth than when it came to you.at that point you told him yeah well i hoped it was just cam but your suspisions of a worn bottom end was correct.yeah great diagnosis.just a shame you never told my mate first before he spent the money on a cam

at this point tho the car ran very bad but never smoked badly.so the car cam back to you and as far as i knew he only wanted a standard rebuild and you qouted him 1k for this.it was then i think you told him he would need a new turbo as his was on the way out but you had a good one there you could fit,
apparently all good then and he came to pick up the car with myself as i gave him a lift.for some reason you couldnt be there apparently and he had to pick the car up from the hotel and you told him on the phone again the car was running100% .as soon as he started the car the whole car park was filled with smoke and i could even see the car lol so i told him to calll you and you said oh its just a bit oil in the exhuast and wil be fine withing a few miles....after a foggy journey back home it stil hadnt got any better so he called you again and you told him to bring it back.u then said the metering head was also fooked but again you had one he could have and this would be fitted also.he then sourced a turbo you said you would fit for free.considering you fitted a fooked turbo in the first place it was the least you could do.so in the end the fooked turbo ou sold himfor 150 that he never got a refund for paid for the free metering head.

anyway after all that he got the car back and it was running a little better but still cut out and still felt like it needed setting up.he was going to have it done at ava but unfortunatly before he could get this done 2little scrots stole it and took the chase of police and the car is now sitting in a police pound where i think hes finally gave up on it

other folks opinions may differ but thats how i see it and i wouldnt advise anyone to go there thats for sure.

even tho the car had all these faults it was funny how you still offered to buy it?

westus1

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never dealt with sitech but only ever heard good things about them on here etc
i'm not ava's biggest fan, i wouldn't take my cossy there unless it was a last resort
but i need to say that everytime i've ever took a rst there they have done an excellent job, highly recommended for escort rst's, always leave happy
not a cheary place, not a cheap place but know they're way around the old escorts

EIL132

Go to AVA regardless of being cheery, I never found Alan to be negative although it was quite a while ago, all he did was tell it how it is and spent more time on the car than I paid for. I went away more than once without gaining anything other than being given the truth rather than cranking up the boost/whatever to overcome future problems. That's what I would rather hear than being told shite to make me feel better as a lot did.

CRAIG HAYTER

what about AWD in perth aswell they have done a few evo's for me and a few scoobies not sure if the do RS's wouldnt see why not though?been great with menot the cheapest but you get what you pay for reallyi have heard only good about AVA aswell as for Sitech never been so cant say ther good or badbut the story above doesnt impress me i have to saybut that could be a fkd car with endless problem?

i dont think AWD have a rolling road but they do it out on the road well they did with my cars

Turbogal75

Having an ERST is not a cheap run about............They are a very expensive hobby that is always going to cost time and money no matter what age or condition they are in when purchased, I bought mine last year and had to spend just over a grand getting it up to scratch.......even now there are small things that need doing............

Anyone that buys a car thats 20 year old is going to have to be prepared to spend some time and money on it........If you want a nice relaible daily drive you should perhaps buy new!!

For every person that says bad about a tuner/garage there will be 5 people that say good guess everyone has there own thoughts......

Just my two pence worth as find these public forums can be a bit of a witch hunt at times and everyone seems quick to say bad things when they have perhaps had no experience or dealings with the tuner involved.

Ade

There's so much bandwagon jumping when it comes to rating and slating tuners on forums. Usually half the people have never even personally spoke to them let alone used them!

As for Sitech..... I have my two Escorts up there for work just now and I recently sent a mate up there with his Cossie for a rebuild.
I don't see any reason why I would not continue to recommend them and support them in Fast Ford features as I have found them to be an honest, friendly, well priced and above all knowledgeable operation...

Rab

I'm going to say AVA becuase they do indeed know what they're doing. 20+ years doing it too. But for the love of god DON'T let them talk you into a massive ultra trick engine build, or you'll not see your car again for 5 years

If you want something like a zvh with bells on then go and see sitech, no matter what a few children are saying on this post

Neil@FastFord

Was gonna stick my oar in about the seemingly unfounded vibes at Sitech.

Personally picked Simons brains many times. They don't know it yet but they will be helping me with my next track car, and probably some bits on my FRST.


I'm based in Bath and Manchester and trekking all that way doesn't put me off. Quality job.

PeterD

I've always used AVA, never had a problem, my RST was never out of action for something they worked on. Plus Alan and Colin have been working on these cars for a long, loooooooong time. you wont go wrong with em.

Tip, take a box of Forrero Rochet with you. Feeding them does wonders for your car!

Daviet

im deffo not a bandwagon jumper or child rab or someone that hasnt spoke with simon,i also recomended my mate to go to sitech after speaking with him and seing his car go and lot of different ocasions..
but after seeing his work and over 2k of my mates money get wasted and in the end the car was never any better than when it first went to him i wouldnt use him myself anymore.
each to there own tho and good luck you dont have the same luck he had if you do use him.
before the car went to simon i had a few pms with folk on here that had told me not to use him and also an hour long phone call to another of his past customers who tried to tell me not to send the car to him but my mate was convinced with his "chat" aswell and decided against the advice and went anyway

rs_traynor

ava matey defo. sitech (woof woof)