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Old 13-02-2009, 01:32 AM
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Question 4 linking - Rod end bearing spec?

I'm in the process of 4 linking a shell. What spec of rod end bearings should I use for the link bars and watts linkage?
Would polybushing the axle end of the link bars be more suitable for a road car?
Also wheres the best/cheapest place to source them?

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i used a 40,572 lbs end for my panhard rod and 8800 lbs ends for the 4 links. the body end of the arms is polybushed and also one end of the panhard rod. tbh, i just buy the highest load bearings available. that way your covered the rod ends i got from rally design
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mcGill motorsport in kirkaldy is all you need to know for rod ends
Old 14-02-2009, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by markk
mcGill motorsport in kirkaldy is all you need to know for rod ends
Wow their prices are great!
Cheers for that Mark
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Ive got mcgill ones on my nova steering arms, was gobsmacked at the price, expected them to be utter shit, but they really do seem to be ok.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Ive got mcgill ones on my nova steering arms, was gobsmacked at the price, expected them to be utter shit, but they really do seem to be ok.
They are a third of the price that Rally Design charges. I'm rose jointing everything now!

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i,m 4 miles up the road from kirkcaldy i didnt even know they were there
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
i,m 4 miles up the road from kirkcaldy i didnt even know they were there
Same here
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Originally Posted by Cam
Wow their prices are great!
Cheers for that Mark

ive got my whole car done with their joints something like something like 36 joints !!!

excellant service as well !

I alway deal with Racheal when i ring them, sent loads their way, I think Andy Gallacher put me onto them when he did my conversion.

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CAM got any pics of the chevete? in your sig?
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Originally Posted by ossie cossie
CAM got any pics of the chevete? in your sig?
The black chevette is fitted with a works DTV spec tarmac HSR kit on 16 inch wheels and runs a 4.2 supercharged Rover V8

http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X145&...l%23reply-4359

The real deal... a works 2.6 DTV tarmac car

https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281834&page=2
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I have my rear axle 4-linked with a panhard rod. Fully rose jointed.

And I have to say, I bloody hate it. I would definately install poly somwhere in the system, to reduce interior noise.

And mine annoys me with the full interior and full complement of sound proofing still fitted !!!
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I have my rear axle 4-linked with a panhard rod. Fully rose jointed.

And I have to say, I bloody hate it. I would definately install poly somwhere in the system, to reduce interior noise.

And mine annoys me with the full interior and full complement of sound proofing still fitted !!!
stevie you need to ditch the soundproofing stuff mate..you might make that old bus go faster then



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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I have my rear axle 4-linked with a panhard rod. Fully rose jointed.

And I have to say, I bloody hate it. I would definately install poly somwhere in the system, to reduce interior noise.

And mine annoys me with the full interior and full complement of sound proofing still fitted !!!
Thats a concern of mine so I am going to make up 2 sets of link bars. One fully rosejointed and one rosejointed at one end and polybushed at the other. What axle are you running Stevie? I have a 1031 Volvo Dana 30 with truetrac LSD for now but have a Strange Engineering 8.8 axle being built with 31 spline shafts, 9 inch bearings and a truetrac diff.
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8.8", 31 spline Mark Williams shafts, Ford Racing Torsen diff.

I wouldnt use any other diff....they all seem to break from what I read. I dont trust other Torsen style...as they all look cheap and weak.
And all diffs with a diff pin, break eventually.

Although MW did offer an uprated diff that uses a pin...I still didnt want to risk it.

just my own thoughs on the matter...

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I read lots of glowing reports on the Ford Torsen diff but Strange advised a Truetrac for my application - fast road/trackday with maybe an occasional RWYB quarter. The new axle is going to be 10 to 12 weeks before its with me so Im using the Volvo one as an interim measure so I can mock up and fabricate the rear suspension.
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TBH...my choice of diff was purely my own. Very few seem to use it...partly due to cost ( although generally speaking, all these diffs are cheap ) and they dont seem to like it for drag racing.

When I kept twisting the Moser shafts...I was about to get some Strange ones. Then all of a sudden they didnt make anything suitable for what I wanted...WTF ???

The MW stuff was expensive, but the quality of it is really superb.


Having used one for some 6 years now....I cant fault it at all.

I tried a spool for a while last year....NEVER again. And it didnt benefit traction for me one bit.
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MW gear is top notch tackle but Strange has one big benefit for me. I have a pal who lives 15 miles from them who is ordering/buying the axle to my spec then "selling" it on to me for the bargain price of $125 plus shipping.
As the old saying goes "Pelicans, Tucans and the taxman all have one thing in common............They can all stick their bills up their arse!"
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Unfortunately with the half shafts and c-clip elims...I had to bite the bullet and pay full whack.

Although exchange rate was much nicer back then.

I just bought my previous Moser's from Hauser. They werent that expensive anyway.
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can you not get stuff from jemisons off the shelf cam ?? i was bidding on the black shovit on ebay last week, shame the twat yanked it.i let him know i would of paid more too.its back on again with the same bloke selling the shit looking 1 owner car, he must have a mate at the co op didaling old biddies out of there dearly departeds old cars.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
can you not get stuff from jemisons off the shelf cam ?? i was bidding on the black shovit on ebay last week, shame the twat yanked it.i let him know i would of paid more too.its back on again with the same bloke selling the shit looking 1 owner car, he must have a mate at the co op didaling old biddies out of there dearly departeds old cars.

I bought turrets and half moons from them but want to make my own link boxes/bars/diff tunnel etc to suit the 8.8 Ford axle esp as I am planning on running rear coilovers rather than spring gondolas on the lower link arms.
The black Silouette was the one I was on about from nr Stansted and tyre sure paid circa 800 quid for it and the one owner car cost him 550 buy it now (check his feedback). He has both on ebay at 1495 but the white one is advertised elsewhere at 1295.
Tire sure is hoovering up all the nice non sunroof hatchback shovits but he has some competition now!
If you are going down the HSR tarmac kit route I am getting the kit made in carbon/kevlar but altering the front HSR bib so that A, its removeable and B, incorporates HS style brake ducts as IMO thats the only fault on the HSR kit. Its too flat and boring looking.
If your in the market for one (whether std or modded) gimme a shout as it seems daft to hire the moulds twice.
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if i manage to get one i was going to get a jemison kit really, the reason is if you break a corner you should be able to geta replacement, why don't you knock up some tarmac wide kits and then sell them off to recoup your outlay??icouldn't be arsed looking through the fellas feedback, i have noticed him selling chevettes before,all the ones prior to the black one looked shit.
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