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Old 06-02-2009, 04:47 PM
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Default Focus RS.. and reliability.

Currently got an o2 plate Civic Type R. Great car but a little bored of it to be honest.

Was contemplating getting a Focus RS as they can be had for good money these days (10k ish).

Only ever been in one that had a lot of work done.. went well.

What are these like as standard as dont plan on changing it? Fuel ecomony compared to type R? and lastly are the reliable assuming regular maintenance.

Tough one...
Old 06-02-2009, 04:52 PM
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not had any probs with mine in two years,pretty much std apart from blueflame exhaust......i get 200 miles to a tank but most of that is driving 3 miles at a time.
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im just getting rid of my 04 plate ctr to save for a focus rs
Old 06-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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you obviously think its a wise choice then?

I cant help thinking I may regret it after the reliability of a Jap car.. but the RS is so tempting
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personally mate i dont think its a good choice but i have a crappy punto for everyday running so im gettin the focus for summer driving only.dont think id chose it over my type r if i was using it everyday as my civic is so damn reliablehard choice for you mate.
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Iv had mine for 4 years now it was a daily drive for 2 of them and i have had no problems what so ever. When mine was running 280bhp i got 260 miles to a tank. With work being a 3 mile drive.
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it will be used daily and kept in a public train station car park... Touch wood, the Type R hasnt been touched.. I would say that both have equal nickabiliy appeal..?

definately a tough one, but I want a turbo again.. Dont get me wrong the Jap car is good, super reliable but just extremely boring if you know what I mean...
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Yeh know what you meen, see it on there faces when im passing lol

You wouldnt regret it.
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what power do these FRS push out as standard then..?

fuel wise, doesnt seem much different to what I am seeing already.
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And you say standard but they actually run better with Bluefin/Dreamscience i got about 40 more miles to a tank once i added bluefin. Explain that
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Anything from 210 - 245 has been seen on the RSOC i think.
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how am I meant to know...

I dont even know what that is..
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West side you need an FRS in your life trust me!

Bought mine in nov and wouldnt give it up. My sis is selling her evo 8 FQ300 CHEAP and i could swap and make money but i love the focus

Mine has dreamscience and full exhaust. Driven daily i'm doing 230-260 miles to a tank which is 10 gallons useable of 12(55litre).

Feels great to have a useable ford that looks great, is nice to drive and reliable as hell. It has great useable power or you can toddle along.

Honestly, maybe its now beating my MI16 205 as my best and favourite car owned!!
Old 06-02-2009, 05:28 PM
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I have done around 20,000 miles in mine over almost 3 years and it has been faultless. It gets serviced by ford every year and that bar petrol is the only running costs. The focus rs is not in the same unreliability league as old fords, so dont be thinking its like an old RS Turbo.
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Originally Posted by Westy
what power do these FRS push out as standard then..?

fuel wise, doesnt seem much different to what I am seeing already.
212 as standard mate

Originally Posted by Westy
how am I meant to know...

I dont even know what that is..
superchip sued to mean chipping yeah? blufin is their newest way of doing it through the diagnostic port all cars have now. DS is an alternative
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fook Chop.. impressive then mate..

whats dreamscience all about... just a chip I assume.

just miss not having an RS and these are fairly modern, usable and look half decent... time to bite the bullet I reckon..!
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Originally Posted by tonyk
so dont be thinking its like an old RS Turbo.

So true! However i'd describe a focus as an rst on steroids! Shame you're a katrillion miles away or i'd give you mine for the day. You honestly wont look back!
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answered above... cheers pal.
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They can be had VERY cheap now too bud. Mine was REALLY cheap

Sub 10k EASY! DOnt be pulled in by the hype of the rsoc boys who think they are worth mega money still!

In this climate its a buyers market
Old 06-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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cant see anyone getting 260 miles to a tank just doing journeys of 3 miles...stop start all the time,this has been a topic on rsoc in the past and i cant remember anyone getting that sort of milage unless a long journey has been added.

get the rs, gets so many looks everytime i drive it...what a great buzz you get.
Old 06-02-2009, 06:10 PM
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if your planning on keeping the FRS standard then you will be bored of this straight away, if your bored with the civic IMO

my mate has one hes now on re-build number 3 wether its down to the FRS is questionable
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Westy,

I like the Focus RS but....

Get an ST, less of an eye catcher, Ideal for public parking unless its orange..LOL

Just as tunable if not more standard potential over the RS, Cheaper, more modern...LOL
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Really really really like the focus RS and hopefully ill get one in a year or 2

Good built modern car and hopefully it will keep me away from a fookin cosworth again as i have been bloody tempted with a few of the saphs thats been for sale lately
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Simon..

Having an ST is like having an XR.. I am a badge snob mate You know I'm messing, jut not keen on ST's.
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Originally Posted by Westy
Simon..

Having an ST is like having an XR.. I am a badge snob mate You know I'm messing, jut not keen on ST's.

AFPMSL

It's kinda right though...FRS "feels" better.

Holds money way better too!
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why have an Escort XR3i when you can have an Escort RS turbo....

or a Sierra XR4x4 when you can have an Sierra RS Cosworth

See what I am saying...
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know EXACTLY what you mean and i'm the same
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Originally Posted by Westy
why have an Escort XR3i when you can have an Escort RS turbo....

or a Sierra XR4x4 when you can have an Sierra RS Cosworth

See what I am saying...
So when the new RS comes out what are you going to do? You'll be stuck with the 'old' RS

Simon is right, the ST is a far better daily used car. Its more comfortable and better built than the RS.
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Paul. you are totally missing the point mate.
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I could have bought a Type S over te Type R, but didnt.. get my drift...?

(plus I am trying to wind Simon up ) lol
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FRS is perfectly reliable as a daily runner however that does depend on how well its been looked after by its previous owners. Admittedly there are some bargains out there but there are also some real heaps on the market as well

Bear in mind also that due to falling prices on the FRS that a lot of the "standard" cars that are for sale in the classifieds are actually previously modified cars that have been returned to standard & the aftermarket bits sold on seperately - not all of them will have been returned to standard that well either

At the moment & in most cases you can pick up an average FRS with basic mods (exhaust/filter/chip/etc) for circa Ł10k or less although there are still people out there who think their car is worth Ł14k+

Allow for about 250 miles from a tank with average driving

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Is it just me that think a focus RS is FAR more of a target to the scum than a CTR. CTR's are everywhere and nothing special anymore.

A focus RS is pretty rare in comparison and i would have thought would be targeted if as Westy says, left in train station car parks all day long????

I agree the ST would be a better daily driver in that they are less rare, more modern inside but personally think they will keep dropping in price. The RS on the other hand if kept nice, being a limited run will retain a decent level of value.

I am in the same boat as you Westy, I own a CTR and want a change, but, given that it is great to drive, reliable and can be left anywhere, I am finding it hard to justify letting the damn thing go.

If i do by something else, then I think it may well be an ST, but only if i grab a bargain as I think this is more on a par to the CTR in terms of dailer runner that aint the end of the world if it gets bent, damaged, knicked or mikes slapped on it.

One other thing, the RS really needs to be looked after, but left in carparks regualarly it will pick up dents and scratches so will need paint loosing originality and also that blue will show up every dint or scratch.
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I sold my CTR to buy a FRS. I used both as daily drivers and the FRS is better IMO. I did 60K in mine in three years and it never missed a beat. Totally standard, super reliable and pretty economical also.

Nothing wrong with the CTR but just not as 'special' as the Focus.
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