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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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This came through our company car agency!

Please be aware that any drivers purchasing the new B30 bio diesel blend - currently available from Morrison's supermarkets alongside their conventional diesel pumps - could invalidate the manufacturer's warranty leaving unsuspecting users with a potentially hefty repair bill.

The new blend of diesel, containing 30% bio-diesel with the remainder being made up from conventional fossil diesel, currently does not have a recognised British Standard designation such as EN or ISO and, without this standard, the fuel will invalidate almost all vehicle warranties.

According to Motorconsult, who first raised this issue, a majority of manufacturers have said that using this fuel is not sanctioned for their vehicles and would cause the warranty to be invalidated.

Manufacturers which have said that B30 is definitely not approved include, Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Jaguar, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Renault, Seat, Skoda, Toyota, Volvo and Volkswagen. Vauxhall has approved it for some Vivaro and Movano LCVs but with conditions including replacement of the fuel filter at 24,000 miles and signing a 'conditions of use' document as well as providing VIN numbers of the vehicles intending to use the fuel. Peugeot will sanction use of the fuel but says that a special dispensation is required to ensure that fuel quality standards are respected. Citroën too, will sanction the fuel but also applies special restrictions. The main diesel fuel injection equipment suppliers say that they would not sanction the use of more than five per cent bio-diesel until such time as a BSI or ISO standard was agreed.

A statement from Morrisons says that there are warning notices on the B30 pumps on their forecourts which advise customers to check with the vehicle manufacturer that the engine is compatible with the fuel before filling up. The pump handles are orange but are situated next to the black conventional diesel pump. For some drivers it could be easy to miss or ignore the notice and fill up with B30 believing that, since it is 'green', it would not cause any problems.

While the engine may run on B30, should a subsequent failure occur and the manufacturer is one that has not specifically approved the use of the fuel, then the warranty almost certainly would be invalidated. The potential bill for a replacement engine could run to several thousand pounds.

Phil Maud, Petrol Director for Morrisons, said:
"B30 is sold in pumps which are bright orange in colour to differentiate them clearly from standard diesel and unleaded and on each pump itself there is a clear message advising customers to check with their manufacturer before filling up. One of the largest manufacturers of diesel engines in the world - Peugeot Citroen - has already approved B30 for use in its HDI engines up to nine years old and conversations are ongoing with other manufacturers regarding similar approval."

To avoid a potentially high repair cost the general advice is, that unless drivers specifically know that the manufacturer has approved the fuel and that your business meets all of the conditions then they should use the black conventional diesel pump only.

So there you go...
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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cheeRS fella,well informed post,will certainly bear it in mind,ta

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I'd just be wary in modern direct injection diesels. Older common rail jobbies should be fine.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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I'd aviod it in any car costing more than the fuel pump !!

CR is about 1000 for a pump and 200 per injector.

Old diesels are only about 800 for a pump.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
I'd aviod it in any car costing more than the fuel pump !!

CR is about 1000 for a pump and 200 per injector.

Old diesels are only about 800 for a pump.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Ah........
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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Is the B30 any cheaper?

My A4 is certified to run on upto 100% bio anyway apparently, so safe for me, so might be worth a trip across town to fill up if its any cheaper.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Not when I last look in Reading - it was the same pirce!!

Pointless IMO
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Oh, so they get cheap bio, mix it with diesel, then flog it for the same price as straight diesel, and say the reason you should but it is to help the environment?

bollocks to that
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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No such thing as straight diesel anymore - they are all a 5% minimum blend of bio
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Originally Posted by Graceland
No such thing as straight diesel anymore - they are all a 5% minimum blend of bio
True - renewable transport obligation.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
No such thing as straight diesel anymore - they are all a 5% minimum blend of bio
Trust it to be you that has to come up with the arguement about there being no such thing as 100% straight
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Trust it to be you that has to come up with the arguement about there being no such thing as 100% straight
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Originally Posted by Chip
Trust it to be you that has to come up with the arguement about there being no such thing as 100% straight


Twat


And you can shut your rape hole aswell Dan you fag
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Its actually cheaper to run your car on diesel than veg oil now, how does that work? .. Fucking supermarkets soon caught on that people were buying it at 60p a litre and smashed the price up
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