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Old 20-10-2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by silky16v
as posted on MLR all you ever do is moan moan moan

You bought a pup had no idea what your were buying, didn't research what your were buying and hey presto look whats happened

YOU CAN ONLY BLAME YOURSELF!!!

with all the money you now spent you could've quite easily bought an 8 MR modified or none modified and had a totally 100% reliable 320+ BHP or near as dammit 400BHP with a modified MR

Total Lack of Knowledge is the fault here and that means YOU!
Actually your lack of knowlegde shows here to.

I did lots of research into this and decided originally it was a good purchase.

So if I am to blame then fine - i didn't build the engine or the car mate, I did my research on the MLR and decided to buy - I should have not read the internet and just done what i normally do and do things on my own - so doing research has actually back fired on me...

Plus am not actually moaning
Old 20-10-2008, 10:19 AM
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It would seem that if you own an evo then the world of tuning is so different LOL
Old 20-10-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Actually your lack of knowlegde shows here to.

I did lots of research into this and decided originally it was a good purchase.

So if I am to blame then fine - i didn't build the engine or the car mate, I did my research on the MLR and decided to buy - I should have not read the internet and just done what i normally do and do things on my own - so doing research has actually back fired on me...

Plus am not actually moaning
well your judgement of buying cars is awful then cause you bought a complete wreck by the sounds of it, an abused, blown up Evo 6 thats been badly put back together

Yes i do own an Evo and i bought a 8 MR version for the exact reason that you are having.

Mine does exactly what it says on the tin and does it very very well with no issues what so ever and with it running at 340bhp is plenty enough to have lots of fun and still keeping it ultra reliable
Old 20-10-2008, 03:15 PM
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Engine was built by a tuner that people in the MLR speak highly of mate - hence me buying it due to the good write up they get LOL

So my own judgement in reading up on things is incorrect LOL

INternet isn't the place to do research on evo purchasing LOL
Old 20-10-2008, 03:18 PM
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Approach the tuner/engine builder about this steve was it long ago it was built?
Old 20-10-2008, 03:19 PM
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Engine has done little milage and is a fresh build in the last 6months
Old 20-10-2008, 03:27 PM
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my mates blew up the same way destroyed the block and everything if you really push them hard they seem unreliable they don't seem to like revs
Old 20-10-2008, 03:35 PM
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some people are just blessed with bad luck it seems
Old 20-10-2008, 04:03 PM
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Dingy, one has to ask themselves - what's the common denominator here?
Old 20-10-2008, 04:05 PM
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Dinguin... Fit a YB to it
Old 20-10-2008, 04:25 PM
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Gutted for you

cars - specially tuned ones - are a nightmare LOL
Old 20-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
It would seem that if you own an evo then the world of tuning is so different LOL
You are prob right, There are so many cheap parts coming in from the US and parts that are made in china that problems will happen,
Also theres a lot of bull about the mechanic come tuners out there that you have no idea who's any good other than the big ups on the forums about the tuners,
With the yb you know what parts and who to go to a jap car is diff due to this and whos biulding them,
My Evo engines I have been biulding have a 100% reliablity record so the right parts they are very good,
However there may have just been a fault with yours which you should find, Speak to the biulder and see what they are going to do about it, Check the make of the rods.

Mark
Old 20-10-2008, 04:30 PM
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Eagle rods?
Old 20-10-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_R
Eagle rods?




Eagle crank and rods, rated to 1000hpno thanks.

Mark
Old 20-10-2008, 04:43 PM
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My kit should I rate it to 4000hpas it does cost 4X the amount

Mark
Old 20-10-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Engine has done little mileage and is a fresh build in the last 6months
steve surely you have a warranty on the engine if its that young ?
Old 20-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by silky16v
as posted on MLR all you ever do is moan moan moan

You bought a pup had no idea what your were buying, didn't research what your were buying and hey presto look whats happened

YOU CAN ONLY BLAME YOURSELF!!!

with all the money you now spent you could've quite easily bought an 8 MR modified or none modified and had a totally 100% reliable 320+ BHP or near as dammit 400BHP with a modified MR

Total Lack of Knowledge is the fault here and that means YOU!
im also on mlr and only see you moan all the time, ive said b4 standard evo will take 400bhp as ive just posted about my mates evo 6 with standard internals on 400bhp the weakest part is not the pistons or crank its the rods.... the standard cranks have seen massive bhp with out any bother!! its simple realy get it tunned by the correct tunner and thers loads of good tunners for evo,s , i also want to point out that the 4G63T evo engine or like lego to rebuild very easy and very cheap parts
Old 20-10-2008, 06:49 PM
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hope it wasnt built by RC ?
dont think youll have much hope of getting anything back if it was
Old 20-10-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


My kit should I rate it to 4000hpas it does cost 4X the amount

Mark

you know someone is going to ask but what rods, crank and piston setup is that Mark?
Old 20-10-2008, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy

My run of bad luck....

Radiator bust
Turbo Bust
ECU bust
engine bust
Done 400 miles in this car and the engine has done around 2400miles...
Well I know how you feel mate, as i've had a similar issue with a forged engine myself, altho I didn't put a rod through the block, it was all down to an issue with the turbo shaft snapping.

However seeing your list of faults above.

I would say that you are either extremely unlucky, or you sadly bought 1 of the cars that have not been looked after.

When the new engine was fitted, was the old oil cooler replaced ? As that could account for the new engine and the turbo both expiring very quickly, and the ecu (depending on what the fault was) could have also contributed to it.
Old 20-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by silky16v
you know someone is going to ask but what rods, crank and piston setup is that Mark?
looks like Crower rods, K1 crank, not sure on pistons
Old 20-10-2008, 09:21 PM
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so dingy are you saying that evo`s are unreliable in your opinion???PMSL;-]
Old 20-10-2008, 09:22 PM
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This makes me think of my experience of Subaru's. You get the people that talk about them having chocolate engines etc, usually because they don't know specific things to look out for or have any clue about maintainance(and they are chavs).

You obviously know your cars dingy. But going on what I knew about Subarus a year ago, I could have quite easily blown mine up.

Now, a year on I am 100% sure my engine is sound and running spot on, mapped by one of the best. It's taken 10000 miles of abuse and is as healthy as it was when I bought it. A year spent on Scoobynet, and with real experience counts for a lot, and If I went back a year with the knowledge I have now...I'd never have bought the impreza I went for.

Andy Forrest(who mapped my car), had a road going WRX RA which he used for over two years at various 1/4 mile events. It was running 440bhp on stock internals, and driven to events and back again. Just goes to show what a difference a good tuner can make, as people blow them up running standard power.

Seems to be an awful lot of hatred for "jap crap" on passionford. I know you're only having a laugh talking about the reliability of all evo's, but it's things like this that fuel the fire.

I love Cosworths and jap crap.
Old 20-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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Will you get it fixed or break it ? And wash your hands of Evos lol
Old 20-10-2008, 10:37 PM
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VERY wierd for an engine to throw a rod through the block without been under big load. Especially with uprated parts.
Old 20-10-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead



Eagle crank and rods, rated to 1000hpno thanks.

Mark


fuck me
who's had the grinder on that crank

wot a mess
Old 20-10-2008, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by T3ORA
fuck me
who's had the grinder on that crank

wot a mess

don't be silly that professional lightened & balanced crank is that
Old 20-10-2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy

Until i find the cause i cant comment....

My run of bad luck....

Radiator bust
Turbo Bust
ECU bust
engine bust
Done 400 miles in this car and the engine has done around 2400miles...
Dingy how many of these are related to your engine failure? Could the the rad going been a early sign of an engine problem.

Or the ECU failing, was it remapped correctly on a new ECU

Did you fit a bigger turbo when it popped a turbo? was the turbo too big for the engine spec?
Old 21-10-2008, 06:42 AM
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radiator was a manufacter split in the plastic - unrelated
ECU failing - has been fixed and replaced with original map for the engine which was mapped by the same people that built the engine.

Turbo is a hybrid version of a standard turbo and was capable of hold more top end boost but it was capped at 1.5 bar - car mapped to 1.7 so it was very safe on the afr unless held at about 7k in top which i have never been anywhere near.

Hard to say what and why untill engine is out and stripped....

Starting that this weekend - will post some pics
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Originally Posted by Dingy
radiator was a manufacter split in the plastic - unrelated
ECU failing - has been fixed and replaced with original map for the engine which was mapped by the same people that built the engine.

Turbo is a hybrid version of a standard turbo and was capable of hold more top end boost but it was capped at 1.5 bar - car mapped to 1.7 so it was very safe on the afr unless held at about 7k in top which i have never been anywhere near.

Hard to say what and why untill engine is out and stripped....

Starting that this weekend - will post some pics
fuckin dismal state of affairs then steve and no chance of any money off the original builders ?
Old 21-10-2008, 11:45 AM
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Manely H Rods
Wisecos or Manely Pistons
ACL Race bearings
Standard oil pump
Old 21-10-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Turbo is a hybrid version of a standard turbo and was capable of hold more top end boost but it was capped at 1.5 bar - car mapped to 1.7 so it was very safe on the afr unless held at about 7k in top which i have never been anywhere near.
How do you know that it wasn't a safe AFR at a held 7000 in top if you have never been near it?
Old 21-10-2008, 12:25 PM
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HA ha - ass dyno said so

http://www.slowboyracing.com/sbs/sbr...at=1824&page=1

Manley rods looks cheap to me...
Old 21-10-2008, 12:30 PM
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Mike i meant whilst driving it on the road not whilst it was being checked
Old 21-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead


Mark
Are my eyes playing tricks? Have they not got a detatchable end cap i.e. a 1 piece conrod
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Originally Posted by wes
Are my eyes playing tricks? Have they not got a detatchable end cap i.e. a 1 piece conrod
Why have they got bolts then LOL
Old 21-10-2008, 02:10 PM
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Dingle who built the engine?

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Old 21-10-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by T3ORA
fuck me
who's had the grinder on that crank

wot a mess
This came in a unopend box from the manufactors, As you can see it went back.

Mark
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Originally Posted by wes
Are my eyes playing tricks? Have they not got a detatchable end cap i.e. a 1 piece conrod

The shotpeening caused it to look like that, Also take a look at the small end bushe and the damage to it caused by the peening also.

Mark
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