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bigjim 09-10-2008 01:40 PM

best cosworth tuners in scotland????
 
where would be the best place to take a sapphire cosworth to to have some work carried out on it up here in scotland? who does mapping etc etc. seems to be loads down south like NMS etc but not sure of up here. also im looking at a car that is fitted with a stage 1 chip and -31 actuator which claims about 270bhp, how easy is it to get the car up to around 330bhp and how much are you looking at? cheers.

simon170 09-10-2008 01:44 PM

Waits for Rapidcossie.....:content:

stevenebm 09-10-2008 01:44 PM

id take my car to andy gallacher for any work.dont know if he does mapping etc,dont think so.might be wrong tho.ava?

sara 09-10-2008 01:46 PM

ava or andy g surely

GUZZLER 09-10-2008 01:54 PM

anyone on here use Wallace?

Lambchop 09-10-2008 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by GUZZLER (Post 3644334)
anyone on here use Wallace?


no ta.

sara 09-10-2008 02:03 PM

they sound good then lol

Less. 09-10-2008 02:06 PM

why wouldnt you you wallace Chop?

STUCOS 09-10-2008 02:08 PM

Trip to blackpool me thinks

cheeRS stu

carlo 09-10-2008 02:09 PM

Andrew dosent map cossies (yet) but he does everything else.There is AVA i personally dont like ava but they done well with euans car

andrewg 09-10-2008 02:16 PM

don't think anyone in scotland maps webber marelli ecu in cosworths,, but maybe wrong,
i usually fit upgrade parts with an off the shelf chip from harvey to suit

Slevin Kelevra 09-10-2008 02:49 PM

ava all day long for engine work/mapping, or andy if your needs parts fitted or big mods done.

maybe a blinkered view but i really dont see why anyone would even consider going anywhere other than ava for mapping. in scotland that is

Lee_R21Turbo 09-10-2008 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by GUZZLER (Post 3644334)
anyone on here use Wallace?

Has he got a partner called Grommit?? :cry::cry:

baba 09-10-2008 03:03 PM

AG.motorsport without doubt.
took my escossie to ava to change my gearbox as andy was very busy and they ran car on rollers after i told them not to!!!and blew engine up.
took car to andy and he rebuilt engine and box......problem free after that and what an engine.

Rab 09-10-2008 03:15 PM

197 miles from Edinburgh to Blackpool by road.

:top:

cozzfather 09-10-2008 03:20 PM

just a quick q being nosy :DD:
on the ag focus there is on the shopping list on the door the name fred crawford, now i remember a fred crawford from ireland who shoved a rs500 engine in a mk2 escort screamer when i wasn't old enough to drive,them were pioneering days when the 2wd sierra cos was still a showroom car. is it the same fred ???

bigjim 09-10-2008 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rab (Post 3644487)
197 miles from Edinburgh to Blackpool by road.

:top:

whos is in blackpool then thats worth driving all the way down???????

Rab 09-10-2008 03:37 PM

Motorsport Developments. Top dogs. :top:

http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/

:top:

STUCOS 09-10-2008 03:43 PM

Bigjim were you been the past 4 yrs if you dont know who's in blackpool,good excuse for a piss up as well

cheeRS stu

Tac 09-10-2008 03:54 PM

andrew dun the work to my sapphire .

the car went from nearly stand to stage 3:DD:

and it runs relay good :DD:

i have had 3 cosworths all stage 3 and this one is the quickest:shocked:

its worth looking in to.

Lambchop 09-10-2008 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by baba (Post 3644469)
AG.motorsport without doubt.
took my escossie to ava to change my gearbox as andy was very busy and they ran car on rollers after i told them not to!!!and blew engine up.
took car to andy and he rebuilt engine and box......problem free after that and what an engine.


what happened like?! :shocked:

surely it was a box test and not a power run?

Paul_RS 09-10-2008 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by cozzfather (Post 3644498)
just a quick q being nosy :DD:
on the ag focus there is on the shopping list on the door the name fred crawford, now i remember a fred crawford from ireland who shoved a rs500 engine in a mk2 escort screamer when i wasn't old enough to drive,them were pioneering days when the 2wd sierra cos was still a showroom car. is it the same fred ???

I've wondered that myself! Fred is still operating over here (in Larne) from what i can gather he stopped racing a few years back.

baba 09-10-2008 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Lambchop (Post 3644588)
what happened like?! :shocked:

surely it was a box test and not a power run?

apparently allan wanted to acess the box by running it on the rollers.after id nursed it up there and specifically said i wanted the box fully rebuilt.my last words to him were dont run it on the rollers until box has been rebuilt and im there to see it.
and no it was a power run as he said he done one power run and he reconned it was ok.

the storys in this post.im just heading out so aint got time to post again.

https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/163841-ava-tuning-near-glasgow-airport.html

westus1 09-10-2008 05:25 PM

i've been to most over the years to set up my cossy's
had a bad experience with ava once:cry:
that said been there loads of times and only ever had 1 bad experience with them so maybe just bad luck
they are very expensive imho
andy g's doin good stuff just now, usualy good with prices as well
couple other places around as well but think i'll be goin to msd for a live map when mines ready
gonna be worth the run down as i've only ever heard good stuff about them:god:
just depends on what your wanting done realy
pm me what your after and i'll give you my advice on the best place (imo obviously)

westus1 09-10-2008 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by simon170 (Post 3644316)
Waits for Rapidcossie.....:content:

i'll be shocked if he doesn't post about this:grin:

dazoriginal 09-10-2008 05:37 PM

agree with comments about ava being expensive etc
i've heard stories about things going wrong there
to me only intrested in money

andrewg 09-10-2008 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by cozzfather (Post 3644498)
just a quick q being nosy :DD:
on the ag focus there is on the shopping list on the door the name fred crawford, now i remember a fred crawford from ireland who shoved a rs500 engine in a mk2 escort screamer when i wasn't old enough to drive,them were pioneering days when the 2wd sierra cos was still a showroom car. is it the same fred ???

yeah prob,, i get all my areoquip from him, very helpfull at it

NEIL A 09-10-2008 05:53 PM

As said above no one in Scotand can live map the standard ecu, or atleast no one that i found when looking into it.
If its a fairly common spec get an off the shelf chip from one of the tuners down south then just get the car checked over and set up, up here once its fitted.

KSA-Cossie 09-10-2008 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by STUCOS (Post 3644354)
Trip to blackpool me thinks

cheeRS stu

+ 1 , just done a 400 mile round trip on monday for a set up and can't praise them enough,will be doing it again next year too.

Lambchop 09-10-2008 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by baba (Post 3644730)
apparently allan wanted to acess the box by running it on the rollers.after id nursed it up there and specifically said i wanted the box fully rebuilt.my last words to him were dont run it on the rollers until box has been rebuilt and im there to see it.
and no it was a power run as he said he done one power run and he reconned it was ok.

the storys in this post.im just heading out so aint got time to post again.

https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=163841


thats bad luck mate. would you have felt better tho if you were there to see it? i very much doubt anything was done differently to cause it that you wouldnt have done driving it yourself or if you were there? i've watched bloody LOADS of runs over the years and its a meticulous process and monitoring everything at all times. not like a rip straight through the rev range :(

anyway sorry to hear that :(

fuzzy 09-10-2008 06:05 PM

a drive down to blackpool is surely a bit excessive for a run of the mill stage 3 isnt it? maybe beyond that id head south but for an off the shelf job someone local like dastek in fife , falkland performance or rjm in glenrothes would do the job.theres star performance in kirkaldy as well. .g

westus1 09-10-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambchop (Post 3644877)
thats bad luck mate. would you have felt better tho if you were there to see it? i very much doubt anything was done differently to cause it that you wouldnt have done driving it yourself or if you were there? i've watched bloody LOADS of runs over the years and its a meticulous process and monitoring everything at all times. not like a rip straight through the rev range :(

anyway sorry to hear that :(

as above they always spend ages strapping the car down and triple checking everything before it even gets started up
they do tend to be a bit ott on the safety 1st approach

steven mc kay 09-10-2008 06:10 PM

fred
 

Originally Posted by cozzfather (Post 3644498)
just a quick q being nosy :DD:
on the ag focus there is on the shopping list on the door the name fred crawford, now i remember a fred crawford from ireland who shoved a rs500 engine in a mk2 escort screamer when i wasn't old enough to drive,them were pioneering days when the 2wd sierra cos was still a showroom car. is it the same fred ???


yes fred is still about but not in to the cossies just as much was onto him just this week looking for grp a mag rear end .. real nice man fred is..i just live 40 miles from him

KSA-Cossie 09-10-2008 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 3644891)
a drive down to blackpool is surely a bit excessive for a run of the mill stage 3 isnt it? maybe beyond that id head south but for an off the shelf job someone local like dastek in fife , falkland performance or rjm in glenrothes would do the job.theres star performance in kirkaldy as well. .g

You are having a laugh eh ?? :?

Rab 09-10-2008 06:16 PM

Did someone say dastek? Are you on crack? :cry:

fuzzy 09-10-2008 06:17 PM

why? whats wrong there?

westus1 09-10-2008 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 3644891)
a drive down to blackpool is surely a bit excessive for a run of the mill stage 3 isnt it? maybe beyond that id head south but for an off the shelf job someone local like dastek in fife , falkland performance or rjm in glenrothes would do the job.theres star performance in kirkaldy as well. .g

dont know anyfin about rjm(except they had a xr2 turbo that was good round knockhill years ago)
but falkland are years out of date and star have never had a good rep(not my own personal experience)
and as for dastek, i wouldn't let them service a fiesta, was talking to the guy that claimed to do their mapping:tiff:at crail couple years back and was nearly rolling about the floor laughing at the joker, he clearly didn't have a clue, i knew more than him :blabla:and i'm no expert at management systems
but please feel free to make your own mistakes as i dont want to start tuner wars:?

Rab 09-10-2008 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 3644934)
why? whats wrong there?


I wouldn't let dastek map the Paisley one way system mate :cry:

westus1 09-10-2008 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rab (Post 3644961)
I wouldn't let dastek map the Paisley one way system mate :cry:

+1 lol

jammy86 09-10-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by STUCOS (Post 3644354)
Trip to blackpool me thinks

cheeRS stu

+2

I've been to AVA 3 times now I think, and I'm not convinced by them, they seem to have some customers who are very happy but I expect they are happy because they have told AVA to do everything, rather than just a setup. I went out of necesity and I wont be returning, but thats probably cause I'm moving to Sussex and will be learning calibration myself over the next 2 years.

JAmes.


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