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Old 02-10-2008 | 09:28 PM
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Its the same of all reputable tuners, If you pay to have it doen properly, it will last !

Most people DIY a chip, run more boost then complain its blown up.

Tuners like Harvey, provide a package thats tried and tested.
Old 02-10-2008 | 09:32 PM
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its all banter

pmsl at rainbird ! i cant even says its cause he drives it hard can i

You can Jim, as he always does drive it hard.

or does he, hmmmm
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Between andrew ,chris doc,charlie,ian donaldsons old car (silver escort)now stewart whyte's car i have seen about 8-10 different engines from harvey & they have all been great.They have had probs but the abuse they have taken is unreal for the power they put out.Charlies old focus was at crail as well with a 380 harvey engine & it done a 12,2 not bad ehh im sure there was a bit more to come once the lad gets used to it..
What i like is i have seen it at andrews the engine comes all mapped ect ready to bolt in wire up & go chralies old 440 engine has took about 6 years of solid abuse every time its been started.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
what do you mean whats with t2 ? its just a great little ecu for a good price really ! and that spec is becoming very popular now it is a brillian conversion
it is needed to be mapped on the road? sorry i'am a german so there are a few
deficits in my vocabulary
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i must admit i am thinking of swapping my greys for siemens and getting stu to map my harvey engine as I am not all that impressed with the Ahmad map.

Cant fault the engine though
Old 02-10-2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by col cos1
what does harvey know that nobody else does?

as his engines seem to be top drawer and take all the punishment that get thrown at them with no issues

andy g and charlie shaw `s for a start?

Nothing

plenty of other reliable powerful cosies been built over the years by other tuners
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
it is needed to be mapped on the road? sorry i'am a german so there are a few
deficits in my vocabulary
haha dont worry i understand

for harvey to map it on the dyno then in the car (on the road) yes he would use t2 or even better and ever more popular t6
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I got seimens 55lb's & a chip from karl norris heard only good reports about seimens
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
i must admit i am thinking of swapping my greys for siemens and getting stu to map my harvey engine as I am not all that impressed with the Ahmad map.
What exactly is it you're not impressed with?
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
haha dont worry i understand

for harvey to map it on the dyno then in the car (on the road) yes he would use t2 or even better and ever more popular t6
and expensive and to be honest i don't have a clue from such things so i don't understand what the benefit of a T6 is (i'am sure it is faster, have more memory and it can read out things like rpm from the turbocharger) but is that useful for a road car?
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
and expensive and to be honest i don't have a clue from such things so i don't understand what the benefit of a T6 is (i'am sure it is faster, have more memory and i can read out things like rpm from the turbocharger) but is that useful for a road car?
for a road car at not a unlimited budget a t2 would be best for you !
t6 can do sooo many features its a bit over the top for road use really unless you want 8injector anti lag data logging ect ect
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
What exactly is it you're not impressed with?
not that impressed with the map off boost (very rich) on boost is fine and also more can be got out of the engine with bigger injectors but he wont map bigger than greys, have to go to 8 injector set up - mau still go that route to be fair we'll see
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is it possible to control the boost with a T2 (like pectel 12 pos boost control)? due my gf use the car sometimes
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Probably does what everyone else does, except he doesn't leave his tools inside the engines after completion...
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
not that impressed with the map off boost (very rich) on boost is fine and also more can be got out of the engine with bigger injectors but he wont map bigger than greys, have to go to 8 injector set up - mau still go that route to be fair we'll see
Considering they're mapped on the dyno at stoich (on part throttle), it can only be the installation in your car that is causing the problems.
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
is it possible to control the boost with a T2 (like pectel 12 pos boost control)? due my gf use the car sometimes

ooh good question!
well you dont get 12 position boost pot for sure im not sure if you get a adjustable boost control acctually ! thats another advantage of t6 eh !!
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T2 does boost control based on the throttle/speed.. you don't get adjustable boost, but of course you can install a low boost switch to give you minimum actuator boost.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
ooh good question!
well you dont get 12 position boost pot for sure im not sure if you get a adjustable boost control acctually ! thats another advantage of t6 eh !!
but at some point my escos should be back on the road
worth of waiting a month longer only for a ECU? not sure...
a little bit off topic but what is the next stage after the t38? T4 with ........


..........erm T6? serious question as i don't know really wich way to go.
think i have to come over to do a few (passenger) test drives.
anybody?
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Considering they're mapped on the dyno at stoich (on part throttle), it can only be the installation in your car that is causing the problems.
Ahmad check the engine after it was installed, might get it over to harvey to check this winter

does this look ok for ticking over??

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
T2 does boost control based on the throttle/speed.. you don't get adjustable boost, but of course you can install a low boost switch to give you minimum actuator boost.

thx for the info so for example it could run 30psi of "standart" bosst and (with the switch enabled) 10psi(thats enough for the gf)?
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rsnissan- why not take it back to Ahmed to check? I mean, it is his map, he would be the logical person to fine-tune it.
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
thx for the info so for example it could run 30psi of "standart" bosst and (with the switch enabled) 10psi(thats enough for the gf)?
It could be set up to do so, yes.
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
but at some point my escos should be back on the road
worth of waiting a month longer only for a ECU? not sure...
a little bit off topic but what is the next stage after the t38? T4 with ........


..........erm T6? serious question as i don't know really wich way to go.
think i have to come over to do a few (passenger) test drives.
anybody?
could go ball bearing t4 on 8green t6 somthing like that or bit more newer like gt30 but would still prob go t6 but use 4 big injectors may be ? lots of ways but a engine off scs would have t2/t6 if you want harvey to build it and map it
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
rsnissan- why not take it back to Ahmed to check? I mean, it is his map, he would be the logical person to fine-tune it.
as per my previous post that is exactly what I did do.....
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
rsnissan- why not take it back to Ahmed to check? I mean, it is his map, he would be the logical person to fine-tune it.
if he just wants to have it checked ie put monitor on it then if harvey was closer then it would be logical to see harvey for a quick check but if he wants it checking and the map modifiying then obviously take it to ahmed
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
as per my previous post that is exactly what I did do.....
If the car is now showing rich since the set-up then obviously a fault has developed. Either that or someone has been dicking around with it (eg: CO pot).
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
if he just wants to have it checked ie put monitor on it then if harvey was closer then it would be logical to see harvey for a quick check but if he wants it checking and the map modifiying then obviously take it to ahmed
If you look at the guys location you can see that Harvey isn't closer.
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
If you look at the guys location you can see that Harvey isn't closer.
i dont even know where places are in the country yet
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
could go ball bearing t4 on 8green t6 somthing like that or bit more newer like gt30 but would still prob go t6 but use 4 big injectors may be ? lots of ways but a engine off scs would have t2/t6 if you want harvey to build it and map it
i think he will be the man who will build my engine due i heard only good things from him, i was very pleased with an engine he build for a friend of me (TurboGuido of here) AND HE WAS THE ONLY TUNER/ENGINE BUILDER FROM THIS BOARD WHO TAKES SOME TIME TO ANSWER MY MAILS (i cannot phone to anyone due my spoken language is much more worse than my written one)
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
If the car is now showing rich since the set-up then obviously a fault has developed. Either that or someone has been dicking around with it (eg: CO pot).

engine was put in, went up road with wideband = rich

took it to ahmad about 2 days later to check it = still rich

so I assumed this is just how he mapped it.

all happend in a matter of days as i was limited for time before Lemans.

its all perfectly safe is the main thing, like i said just wondered if the part throttle/off boost could be mapped better.

Not taking anything away from Ahmads mapping skills (I did half expect it to be quite rich from what i had heard/seen before so I wasnt surprised)
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Originally Posted by EsCos_Enrico
i think he will be the man who will build my engine due i heard only good things from him, i was very pleased with an engine he build for a friend of me (TurboGuido of here) AND HE WAS THE ONLY TUNER/ENGINE BUILDER FROM THIS BOARD WHO TAKES SOME TIME TO ANSWER MY MAILS (i cannot phone to anyone due my spoken language is much more worse than my written one)
oh yes guido !
well i know its hard to have a convo but im sure he'll be able to understand/help if you ever did want to ring ! if not just email and like ya say he'll get back to you
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
Not taking anything away from Ahmads mapping skills (I did half expect it to be quite rich from what i had heard/seen before so I wasnt surprised)
He maps road engines at stoich on part throttle, so not quite sure what's going on with yours. A lot of bollocks is said about his calibrations, one week everyone says they're 'lean', the next week everyone says they're 'rich'. It's a fashion-of-the-month thing.

But sure, you've done your own tests which is fair enough. I personally would go back and have a chat with him about it before going elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
He maps road engines at stoich on part throttle, so not quite sure what's going on with yours. A lot of bollocks is said about his calibrations, one week everyone says they're 'lean', the next week everyone says they're 'rich'. It's a fashion-of-the-month thing.

But sure, you've done your own tests which is fair enough. I personally would go back and have a chat with him about it before going elsewhere.
yep i know alot of bollocks is said on here and i had no preconceptions I just went out with my own gear and did my own tests before coming to a conclusion. Now I have more time I'll look into it properly and see what he says.
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col why waste your time going to harvey when if you gave Alan less cash he could get same power?

Harveys engine seem to make good power and last a long time but they aint the be all and end all.
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I'm sure Andy G and co get a good deal off Harvey for all the bits they have but if Alan was that much better I'm sure they would use him as he is so much closer.

Can't deny he done a good job of yours though
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Had my engine for 6 years and still going strong! Other than a headgasket going (Which was no fault) it still goes and pulls like a train! Top bloke

If a tad lanky LOL
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
ooh good question!
well you dont get 12 position boost pot for sure im not sure if you get a adjustable boost control acctually ! thats another advantage of t6 eh !!
This can be done on L8!!
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
col why waste your time going to harvey when if you gave Alan less cash he could get same power?

Harveys engine seem to make good power and last a long time but they aint the be all and end all.

Simple answer would be time

Im more than happy with my ava engine but the quick turnaround and ready to fit style of Harveys engines is a big bonus.

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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I'm sure Andy G and co get a good deal off Harvey for all the bits they have but if Alan was that much better I'm sure they would use him as he is so much closer.

Can't deny he done a good job of yours though
If i ran same turbo as Andy and charlie I have no doubt i would see same power.

Im not saying Alan is better but Im sure he would be cheaper.
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Originally Posted by NEIL A
Simple answer would be time

yeah that puts alot of people off neil but its not all plain sailing at other tuners either as they all have their cars that take a long time



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