CossieRich's Saph goes SOOOO well!
26-09-2008, 09:10 AM
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Yeah last Saturday, followin Twins outta Southers on the 127, doin roughly 2k rpm in 5th, jus heard a pop & the engine stopped !! 
Done a quick check, everythin looked ok, belt still on & everything ok, I asked Twins to keep eye on the cam pulleys while I jus flicked the ignition over & sure enough the engine turned, the cams didn't move !!
I'd changed the belt myself about 6 months ago & everything been fine, the teeth have fallen off the belt round the bottom pulley !!
Gonna whip the lid off tomorrow afternoon to check for damage, Mark says there's some big pockets in the pistons so I "might" be lucky ??
Car's been runnin strong tho with this engine for over a year now, never missin a heart beast so can't complain to much
the engine is deffo strong & the base map was propa !! Jus now is the time to sort EVERYTHING out, otherwise, i'll jus fix it & keep driving it, never gettin it sorted !!
jb
Done a quick check, everythin looked ok, belt still on & everything ok, I asked Twins to keep eye on the cam pulleys while I jus flicked the ignition over & sure enough the engine turned, the cams didn't move !!
I'd changed the belt myself about 6 months ago & everything been fine, the teeth have fallen off the belt round the bottom pulley !!
Gonna whip the lid off tomorrow afternoon to check for damage, Mark says there's some big pockets in the pistons so I "might" be lucky ?? Car's been runnin strong tho with this engine for over a year now, never missin a heart beast so can't complain to much
the engine is deffo strong & the base map was propa !! Jus now is the time to sort EVERYTHING out, otherwise, i'll jus fix it & keep driving it, never gettin it sorted !! jb
Don't single me out for condemning your car it's every other tuner that you have been to that has condemned it so far roflol.
What makes you think mark isn't going to write you a massive hit list
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26-09-2008, 09:20 AM
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& she's only been one place 
who said it was too low along with other reasonsMarks cool, there's a rollin road near him if worst case scenaro happens !!
jb
p.s. yeah, belt failure could of been down to me, not ruling that out
26-09-2008, 09:49 AM
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after cutting your spare wheel well out and welding a steel plate over the hole in the boot floor you will probably find you have added weight if you add the flat plate to the weight of the mig wire.
I can see jb getting the stihl saw out now cutting the whole boot floor out and sticking in a carbon sheet
I can see jb getting the stihl saw out now cutting the whole boot floor out and sticking in a carbon sheet
26-09-2008, 09:51 AM
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after cutting your spare wheel well out and welding a steel plate over the hole in the boot floor you will probably find you have added weight if you add the flat plate to the weight of the mig wire.
I can see jb getting the stihl saw out now cutting the whole boot floor out and sticking in a carbon sheet
I can see jb getting the stihl saw out now cutting the whole boot floor out and sticking in a carbon sheet
) But you could be right & whatcha said is ANOTHER good idea, I'm seriously thinkin bout doin that Tony !!
Keep the ideas coming !!
jb
26-09-2008, 09:57 AM
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Is it on a completely standard head or just standard valve sizes?
Everyone used to tell me you wouldn't see over 370bhp on a standard head no matter what you did!
Everyone used to tell me you wouldn't see over 370bhp on a standard head no matter what you did!
26-09-2008, 10:43 AM
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Nowadays with peoples exploring turbo's, inlets, injectors, ecu's etc there's alot more potential to be had !!
jb
26-09-2008, 10:51 AM
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thing i was really impressed wtih on rich's setup is that it has NO surge.
it's not that surge has been mapped out, its just that it doesnt do it
what a COOL turbo for a cossie!
it's not that surge has been mapped out, its just that it doesnt do it
what a COOL turbo for a cossie!
26-09-2008, 10:53 AM
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LOL @ budget spec
Its not a fucking budget spec, its a bastard big spec car, just specced GOOD so it does the business without wasting money on shit thats either not needed or no good without other mods.
Decent spec engine, big turbo running big boost, kept at a normal ride height so geometry stays good (unlike most), wide good quality tyres (unlike most), proper limited slip diff that actually works (unlike most), job done.
Its not magic that it can use the power, its just how a 450bhp RWD car should be.
Its not a fucking budget spec, its a bastard big spec car, just specced GOOD so it does the business without wasting money on shit thats either not needed or no good without other mods.
Decent spec engine, big turbo running big boost, kept at a normal ride height so geometry stays good (unlike most), wide good quality tyres (unlike most), proper limited slip diff that actually works (unlike most), job done.
Its not magic that it can use the power, its just how a 450bhp RWD car should be.
26-09-2008, 10:56 AM
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Stav, his "decent spec engine" involves:
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
26-09-2008, 10:57 AM
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LOL @ budget spec
Its not a fucking budget spec, its a bastard big spec car, just specced GOOD so it does the business without wasting money on shit thats either not needed or no good without other mods.
Decent spec engine, big turbo running big boost, kept at a normal ride height so geometry stays good (unlike most), wide good quality tyres (unlike most), proper limited slip diff that actually works (unlike most), job done.
Its not magic that it can use the power, its just how a 450bhp RWD car should be.
Its not a fucking budget spec, its a bastard big spec car, just specced GOOD so it does the business without wasting money on shit thats either not needed or no good without other mods.
Decent spec engine, big turbo running big boost, kept at a normal ride height so geometry stays good (unlike most), wide good quality tyres (unlike most), proper limited slip diff that actually works (unlike most), job done.
Its not magic that it can use the power, its just how a 450bhp RWD car should be.
jb
26-09-2008, 11:00 AM
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Stav, his "decent spec engine" involves:
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
Not a big spec engine at all, is it runnin isky valve springs on the inlet for the 14 or they standard ??
What does it rev too ??
jb
26-09-2008, 11:01 AM
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JB- Your diff works as well as his for traction, he got no advantage there. Tho maybe not tyres/geometry 
Considering ALL those parts (save for studs maybe, depending on your tuner) are left standard on 90% of Cossies of that power, thats my point, why is it "budget" when nobody whos not stupid changes those parts for that power?
Has everyone just forgot stock Cossie bits are good for mega power as standard and we all have used them?
Stav, his "decent spec engine" involves:
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
Standard block
Standard studs
Standard exhaust cam
Standard valves
Standard lifters
Standard crank
Standard rods
In fact the only non standard bits on his entire engine as far as im aware are:
head gasket
lowered cr
inlet cam
Thats pretty budget IMHO for the engine itself
Has everyone just forgot stock Cossie bits are good for mega power as standard and we all have used them?
26-09-2008, 11:05 AM
#112
Its budget cause it doesnt cost any money to use standard bits, Id have though that was obvious.
You seem to be missing rich's entire point, that for example so the many people who have headwork to get to this power level (most YB's over 400 Ive seen have headwork) have spent more than him to achieve the same goal in terms of the engine itself.
You seem to be missing rich's entire point, that for example so the many people who have headwork to get to this power level (most YB's over 400 Ive seen have headwork) have spent more than him to achieve the same goal in terms of the engine itself.
26-09-2008, 11:23 AM
#113
No its not on isky valve springs JB. Standard ones. Revs to 7400 i think, but may see about raising that sligthly. All depends where my peak power is made of course.
I can see why Stav is saying its aint budget spec but the engine really is. 5 years ago it cost whatever Mark charged for a rebuild. Couldnt afford head work, couldnt afford machining for long studs, couldnt afford isky valve springs and Marks cams. So apart from machining pockets in the pistons and lowering the c/r is really was a budget build lol. The rest of the car has cost a bit of money obviously. Have been through 3 different sets of wheels for instance. Brakes are obviosuly dear, so was the diff. Add to that turbo and management then yes i can see what you mean, but compared to others who wanted over 400 i reckon i come in under them in terms of pricing. Yes i have been lucky with parts (not what you know, but who )
Mark would like to test one of his cams next on mine. Means changing valve springs but think we may go for piper double valve springs and change them without takign head off if its possible.
I can see why Stav is saying its aint budget spec but the engine really is. 5 years ago it cost whatever Mark charged for a rebuild. Couldnt afford head work, couldnt afford machining for long studs, couldnt afford isky valve springs and Marks cams. So apart from machining pockets in the pistons and lowering the c/r is really was a budget build lol. The rest of the car has cost a bit of money obviously. Have been through 3 different sets of wheels for instance
. Brakes are obviosuly dear, so was the diff. Add to that turbo and management then yes i can see what you mean, but compared to others who wanted over 400 i reckon i come in under them in terms of pricing. Yes i have been lucky with parts (not what you know, but who ) Mark would like to test one of his cams next on mine. Means changing valve springs but think we may go for piper double valve springs and change them without takign head off if its possible.
26-09-2008, 11:25 AM
#114
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Rich
Glad your happy with it matey.
Other non standard bits are 4 seperate coil ignition & the first Cossie ever on this Spec of ECU.
JB
Been sorting you diagram this morning & looking at the Specs. Antilag is a yes but no facility for Launch im afraid.
JB is doing a one up on Rich
& running a CDI although JB didnt know what that strange box was that he had purchased . Trying to remember how a reluctor interface is wired , otherwise all is cool. Ring Mark about you Crank Pulley JB it needs to be modded.
Glad your happy with it matey
.Other non standard bits are 4 seperate coil ignition & the first Cossie ever on this Spec of ECU.
JB
Been sorting you diagram this morning & looking at the Specs. Antilag is a yes but no facility for Launch im afraid.
JB is doing a one up on Rich
& running a CDI although JB didnt know what that strange box was that he had purchased . Trying to remember how a reluctor interface is wired , otherwise all is cool. Ring Mark about you Crank Pulley JB it needs to be modded.
26-09-2008, 11:37 AM
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Rich
Glad your happy with it matey.
Other non standard bits are 4 seperate coil ignition & the first Cossie ever on this Spec of ECU.
JB
Been sorting you diagram this morning & looking at the Specs. Antilag is a yes but no facility for Launch im afraid.
JB is doing a one up on Rich & running a CDI although JB didnt know what that strange box was that he had purchased . Trying to remember how a reluctor interface is wired , otherwise all is cool. Ring Mark about you Crank Pulley JB it needs to be modded.
Glad your happy with it matey
.Other non standard bits are 4 seperate coil ignition & the first Cossie ever on this Spec of ECU.
JB
Been sorting you diagram this morning & looking at the Specs. Antilag is a yes but no facility for Launch im afraid.
JB is doing a one up on Rich
& running a CDI although JB didnt know what that strange box was that he had purchased . Trying to remember how a reluctor interface is wired , otherwise all is cool. Ring Mark about you Crank Pulley JB it needs to be modded.
Chip didn't say no so it was him Rod you are an absolute ledgend !!
I'm probably gonna pull the lump out tomorrow instead of jus head off so I can change for a big wing sump, then pull off all the bits that need work including the bottom pulley !! Soon as I got it in my hand I'll give Mark a call & see what needs doin !! Anti-lag !?!? He he he
Do I need to get my cam cover modded if goin coil on plug ?? Like Dave has ??
Is there anything else needed to run the Autronics ??
jb
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26-09-2008, 11:46 AM
#116
we were using hybrid turbo's on cosies and rs500's in the 80's along with cams on standard comp and standard heads etc etc
bd10 inlet 8 exhaust ,bd 14 inlet 8 exhaust
the 14 /8 is still a belter today for fast road use
26-09-2008, 11:50 AM
#117
Its budget cause it doesnt cost any money to use standard bits, Id have though that was obvious.
You seem to be missing rich's entire point, that for example so the many people who have headwork to get to this power level (most YB's over 400 Ive seen have headwork) have spent more than him to achieve the same goal in terms of the engine itself.
You seem to be missing rich's entire point, that for example so the many people who have headwork to get to this power level (most YB's over 400 Ive seen have headwork) have spent more than him to achieve the same goal in terms of the engine itself.
you priced up new standard parts