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Old 11-09-2008, 11:37 AM
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
chip that would be certainly something i would very much like to do, but would would benefit from one is the question.

e36 like graceys done? but something more like an m5 engine.

a small car aint going to be too good i would imagine as it will be too front end heavy.
Something like a 3 series is an ok plan, but a 200sx is ligther and handles better.

Find an S14 with a blown engine, and put a jap or german V8 in it
Old 11-09-2008, 11:40 AM
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yeah that could be an idea chip.

and to you other people, do you not understand the term cheapish project.

6k on a fucking mk2 then have to put something decent in it, and then somehow try and make the barge handle! no no no and no!
Old 11-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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S14 with blown engine = 1K
Engine and box from something V8 = 1K
Misc needed to fit (exhaust fab / mounts / prop etc) = 1K

Potentially a very cheap project, although I suspect you would then want to spend a few more K to do it to a higher stanard.
Old 11-09-2008, 11:43 AM
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Know of a 200SX in Southampton up for sale with a few bits done to it, S14, engine isn't blown but they only want Ł1k for it, rip the engine out, sell it on and buy a 1UZ.

Perfect plan
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Originally Posted by CalibreDan
Know of a 200SX in Southampton up for sale with a few bits done to it, S14, engine isn't blown but they only want Ł1k for it, rip the engine out, sell it on and buy a 1UZ.

Perfect plan
1UZ isnt mega easy to get a manual box on.

Could easily spend 1-2K just doing that

Would be an awesome project, but there are better engien and box combinations available value wise
Old 11-09-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
1UZ isnt mega easy to get a manual box on.

Could easily spend 1-2K just doing that

Would be an awesome project, but there are better engien and box combinations available value wise
Bit of an arse, what sort of problems are there?

Any idea what the BMW 4.4 V8's are like? Or an S8 4.2 V8?
Old 11-09-2008, 12:12 PM
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ahhh Ryan some of the quickest mk1/2's in the country are still running Pinto's

you could get a decent cheaper shell for half the price of that mk2 & wack whatever you like into it!
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Originally Posted by CalibreDan
Bit of an arse, what sort of problems are there?

Any idea what the BMW 4.4 V8's are like? Or an S8 4.2 V8?
The problem is that no manual box im aware of bolts straight up.

THOR racing do a Supra Turbo box conversion, but its about 1500 quid.

Other than that, its DIY time.


The BMW 4.4 V8's are a fantastic engine and come with a decent box too.

Audi 4.2 V8 is a case of not being a readily available strong RWD box again
Old 11-09-2008, 12:36 PM
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If its track time you will be doing just splash out 3.5k on a kit car like a stryker.

Plenty of them still being competitivly raced and much more track orientated than any converted road car.
Old 11-09-2008, 12:56 PM
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BMW 318is (take your pick, E30 or E36), Eaton M45 Supercharger (100-odd quid off ebay for one with delivery miles on that someone's binned off their Cooper S in favour of the Works pacakge), very very easy RWD car with 215-ish BHP.

That not enough? Add TB's and it becomes very lairy, and would also be a car in the vain of an E30 M3 (lairy 4-pot etc)
Old 11-09-2008, 12:58 PM
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Mike C, have you done the minicooper charger conversion?

Only you seem to be missing a few points with actually getting it running right, you dont just chuck it in the day and hope for the best if you want it reliable
Old 11-09-2008, 01:07 PM
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No, but I know a man who has!

I've had the 'charger lying around for ages, but not done anything with it, but know of someone who did it on their E30, running 210BHP, and it was relatively straightforward.

I'm not saying all you have to do is bolt it on and away you go, but here we've got people talking about Cosworth running gear into just about every run-of-the-mill car going and that's going to take a lot of time, effort, skill and ŁŁŁ. I think buying a nicely sorted, if a little underpowered RWD car that ticks most of the right boxes and spending, what? Ł1000? Ł1500? Upping the power a considerable amount. Depends how clued up you are and what contacts you have I guess...
Old 11-09-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
6k on a fucking mk2 then have to put something decent in it, and then somehow try and make the barge handle! no no no and no!

i resent that!
i know of plenty of people with "barge" mk2s and mk1s that regularly destroy far more expensive and modern machinery on track!
Old 11-09-2008, 01:20 PM
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how much has they put into there mk2 though? 10-15k?
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Originally Posted by Mike C
No, but I know a man who has!

I've had the 'charger lying around for ages, but not done anything with it, but know of someone who did it on their E30, running 210BHP, and it was relatively straightforward.

I'm not saying all you have to do is bolt it on and away you go, but here we've got people talking about Cosworth running gear into just about every run-of-the-mill car going and that's going to take a lot of time, effort, skill and ŁŁŁ. I think buying a nicely sorted, if a little underpowered RWD car that ticks most of the right boxes and spending, what? Ł1000? Ł1500? Upping the power a considerable amount. Depends how clued up you are and what contacts you have I guess...
Relativly straight forward if you can do all the fabrication yourself and fit/map an ecu yourself.
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Originally Posted by Ryan
how much has they put into there mk2 though? 10-15k?

varies hugely. depending mostly on how much of it you can do/are willing to do yourself. could have had mine finished for about another 4k easy i reckon and that would have done the job pretty effectively i'd think.
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http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/694201.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/643325.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/679070.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/683227.htm

Seriously, buying something like one of those (just a few examples, not saying they're the best or anything), then spending the same as the purchase price on a superchager conversion, shed a bit of weight from it, budget brake and suspension upgrades, sorted!

Seems like a good "budget" project to me
Old 11-09-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Relativly straight forward if you can do all the fabrication yourself and fit/map an ecu yourself.
Megasquirt would do the job, got to be a few people around who are clued up on that.

Would need the cooling side sorting out too

No hardcore mods really necessary
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Originally Posted by Mike C
Megasquirt would do the job, got to be a few people around who are clued up on that.

Would need the cooling side sorting out too

No hardcore mods really necessary
Megasquirt would do the job?

What job?
The job of making its own loom, and mapping itself?

Its all perfectly possible, its just not how you described it is all im getting at, you made it sound like 100 quid for a charger and off you go, thats only 10% of the money you would realistically spend doing it.
Old 11-09-2008, 01:34 PM
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as said, i dont really fancy the job of mapping and shit like that which is why i like the idea of a complete engine transplant, like i talk about the 1.8t, just a chip and its done.
Old 11-09-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
THOR racing do a Supra Turbo box conversion, but its about 1500 quid.
very random of me to add this here but thought you might like to know (or maybe not )

thor racing did the sound recording for the F1 LM in PGR4

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Originally Posted by Chip
Megasquirt would do the job?

What job?
The job of making its own loom, and mapping itself?

Its all perfectly possible, its just not how you described it is all im getting at, you made it sound like 100 quid for a charger and off you go, thats only 10% of the money you would realistically spend doing it.
No, but it's a straightforward job for someone who's clued up in that sort of thing, and it's not going to cost the earth.

I never suggested (or at least never intended to suggest) that it'd be Ł100 and there you go. But I still think Ł1000-Ł1500 for what you're getting is rather good.

If you want simplicity, buy that 335i in the for sale section, lol
Old 11-09-2008, 01:42 PM
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is a yb convertion alot easier on a e36 tothe e30?
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Originally Posted by Ryan
as said, i dont really fancy the job of mapping and shit like that which is why i like the idea of a complete engine transplant, like i talk about the 1.8t, just a chip and its done.
Buy 200sx

Fit chip

do trackdays


jobs a good un
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indycos, interesting bit of trivia
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ELISE WITH AUDI LUMP! .
Old 12-09-2008, 09:14 AM
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there are very nice mike, escpecially looking at pictures of seans with the full kit on.

but the cost of the them to buy in the 1st place is high. dont know where you looking ?
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Cheaper, more interesting idea (IMO) - VX220 with an Astra VXR Z20LEH or C20LET in it.

Can pick up VX's fairly cheap now, even more so for one with a blown up 2.2 in it.

http://images.pistonheads.com/aimg/688/688958-4.jpg

How menacing does that look?
Old 12-09-2008, 09:28 AM
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E30 BMW with something fruity in it!
Old 12-09-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
there are very nice mike, escpecially looking at pictures of seans with the full kit on.

but the cost of the them to buy in the 1st place is high. dont know where you looking ?
Breakers - could have picked up a lightly damaged 160S a few weeks ago for PEANUTS! However, I would have been shot .
Old 12-09-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rab
E30 BMW with something fruity in it!
You mean Mike driving it?
Old 12-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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slightly off topic but whats the difference between an elise and a exige?
are they the same chassie with different parts or totaly separte cars??
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Breakers - could have picked up a lightly damaged 160S a few weeks ago for PEANUTS! However, I would have been shot .
Mike, i'm sure you are aware an elise that looks lightly damaged can in fact be seriously f*cked.

I could only afford to buy a damaged one but with the aluminium chassis being a bit of an unknown i'm not sure.

How much was the cheap one at the breakers?
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Originally Posted by a.k.a
BMW Mini with rear mounted v8 using X5 4x4 50/50 split running gear and reversed diffs ala Metro 6R4 set up





rolling shell a few grand and about the same for the running gear, plus fab costs

well if you dont like the idea of a BMW 4.4 litre v8 4x4 Mini then how about this instead

http://www.motorgeek.com/phpBB2/view...er=asc&start=0
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Originally Posted by Chip
indycos, interesting bit of trivia
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Originally Posted by Ryan
pmsl, what would that cost like 10-15k
true
Old 12-09-2008, 01:28 PM
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ok Ryan, how about this...

what is your budget?
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havent really got a budget, but something i can buy for like 1-2k and then tinker.

ontop of that it doesnt really matter its just whatever spare cash i decide to plough into it
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Originally Posted by Ryan
havent really got a budget, but something i can buy for like 1-2k and then tinker.

ontop of that it doesnt really matter its just whatever spare cash i decide to plough into it

http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=56290


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