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Old 10-09-2008, 11:37 AM
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Default Wet tyres for donno?

Im assuming that there are no tyre restrictions on donno on the 29th, as I believe they dont care about road legal etc?

We've got 888's for the dry or light damp, but what do people recomend for the wet?

Need a tyre thats available in approx 195/50/16 ideally but a 195/40/17 would be acceptable too.
Old 10-09-2008, 11:38 AM
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i got a set of "wets" from marco, pretty fooking soft

but i did a wet day in F1's and grip was fine
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Spikey, got any pictures of the wets? how much tread was on them?
what size?

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mine are 185/57/15 i think????
i paid 160 for 4

the tread is very good

i have other pics somewhere, i will go find them

they are int the middle pile, bottom 4

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Cool, hopefully Marco will reply then, if not I will drop him a PM
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R888s work surprisingly well in the rain - donny drains well to iirc
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888 are ok when damp, but not for standing water, which is what im interested in here, a VERY wet weather tyre.
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yeah, there is no way i'm using my r888's on the 29th if its pissing down

any rain and rain tyres are on, damp dry track r888's
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The difference between proper full competition wets and normal treaded road tyres is unbelievable.

Until you try them, its impossible to describe the amount of grip you can get!!

Finding them is the difficult job! marco seems to be the man, but the last time i spoke to him, the 15"s were in short supply!!!

I agree about the r888's if its damp, howver if its been raining a lot, the bottom of craner curves and the old old hairpin can attract a lot of water as it runs down the slope..so take it steady just in case.
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16s or 17s would be what I was after.
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
The difference between proper full competition wets and normal treaded road tyres is unbelievable.

Until you try them, its impossible to describe the amount of grip you can get!!

Finding them is the difficult job! marco seems to be the man, but the last time i spoke to him, the 15"s were in short supply!!!

I agree about the r888's if its damp, howver if its been raining a lot, the bottom of craner curves and the old old hairpin can attract a lot of water as it runs down the slope..so take it steady just in case.

and thats why i cant wait to test my proper wets from marco
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Originally Posted by Chip
16s or 17s would be what I was after.

16's are like rocking horse shit
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Originally Posted by Spiky
16's are like rocking horse shit
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nobody, really used them, people went from 15's to 17's like the clios and small hatch's

wo you'll have to either 15's which are getting rare or 17's
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see marco's last reply

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...=slicks&page=4
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Thanks mate, have replied


Anyone used RB5F2 wets?

Ive used their dry tyres and was impressed, but not tried the wet ones.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
16's are like rocking horse shit
You aint kidding, hence why ive had to downsize to 15"s...

Even used 15"s are becoming rare as well. especially in full slick sizes.

As for 17's most ive seen are wider than 205's and also a bigger profile than a 40 (or equivalent road sizes)
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yeah, i did want full slicks,

but i have decided that r888s are good enough for me, and now i have the wets, i have no reason to purchase any slicks

there are some for sale on the 205 forum, but i dont want them now
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Originally Posted by Spiky
yeah, i did want full slicks,

but i have decided that r888s are good enough for me, and now i have the wets, i have no reason to purchase any slicks

there are some for sale on the 205 forum, but i dont want them now
I gotta be honest, i couldnt justify the expense of new full slicks on my shitter, hence why the R888's do a good enough job for me. at least at 50-60 quid a corner it aint "too" expensive if i knacker one up!

Ive been in cars round donny in the rain on full wets, and they corner much faster in the wet than most cars do in the dry! hence i'm after a set of used wets off marco as well!! lol
Old 10-09-2008, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
yeah, i did want full slicks,

but i have decided that r888s are good enough for me, and now i have the wets, i have no reason to purchase any slicks

there are some for sale on the 205 forum, but i dont want them now

i thought the same.....until i went out on slicks after a day on r888's-big difference

i have a set of ex touring car sllicks for dry,r888's for slightly damp
am hoping to get some wets too
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but i can drive to track days on r888's and carry wets in the back,

i cant drive to track days on slicks

and for the price r888's on 15's are just awesome price wise
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Originally Posted by Chip
Anyone used RB5F2 wets?
Ultra shite compared to a proper tyre. The same can be said for their 'dry' tyres. Budget end stuff not worth risking your pride and joy on.
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Ultra shite compared to a proper tyre. The same can be said for their 'dry' tyres. Budget end stuff not worth risking your pride and joy on.
what about compaired to a good road tyre like a eagle F1, again for wet conditions
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I also cannot explain how fuckin good those proper wet tyres marco gets are.... I was shocked at how good they were round donno in the wet the other christmas in Andys 500.... compared to the absolute joke spec of Daz' Dolly with its Bald Dunlop cut slick things....

Tims 205 went very well with F1's on but its real gung ho stuff...

In terms of drainage at Donno- yes very good but the bottom of craner curves into the old hair pin often has standing water a plenty if its heavey.
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id love some of these proper wet's

however

15's dont go over my brakes and
17's wont go inside the rear archs (anything over 205 is going to be a massive struggle)
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If those were the only two choices I'd run the road tyre.

If R888's are cheap enough then why not just put some extra cuts in them if its a wet day ? Thats what we have done for people.

If its wet I run intermediate Michelin TA's

If its standing I run Michelin P2B's

If i dont have those tyres on rims the car does not move.

and by standing wet i mean like this


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We're going to a trackday not a lake
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Originally Posted by Chip
We're going to a trackday not a lake

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Weeton Barrocks Tony? The day you was telling me about?
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Yes Tim

I know and trust those tyres to work in extreme conditions when in competition, so a little winter trackday should pose no problem for them.

But finding something decent that will work similar to a proper tyre in a 40 or 50 profile is like looking for the impossible i guess

If its wet just be more cautious and slow down.

If you know its going to be wet then you wont be needing those big brakes, so a second option for winter cars is to maybe fit smaller ones and run proper tyres.
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Yeah a set of 15" wheels and some smaller brakes might be the best solution, Id already considered that, will have a word with Rob (its his car, lol)
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