2wd or 4wd
25-08-2008, 08:13 AM
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2wd or 4wd
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i'm after buying a sierra cosworth if i ever manage to sell my house but before i do i'm going to do abit of homework on what to get & what to look out for apart from the obvious.do you recommend 2wd or 4wd which one & why.i,ve just got rid off an impreza sti 54plate with 320 bhp so i would like to have something with the same amount of power maybe more (up to 400)if i do,would i expect to get many problems with the engine (assuming all mods have been fitted & set up correctly)or is the cossie engine tough enough to modify.Any helpful replies would be greatly appreciated cheers jason
i'm after buying a sierra cosworth if i ever manage to sell my house but before i do i'm going to do abit of homework on what to get & what to look out for apart from the obvious.do you recommend 2wd or 4wd which one & why.i,ve just got rid off an impreza sti 54plate with 320 bhp so i would like to have something with the same amount of power maybe more (up to 400)if i do,would i expect to get many problems with the engine (assuming all mods have been fitted & set up correctly)or is the cossie engine tough enough to modify.Any helpful replies would be greatly appreciated cheers jason
25-08-2008, 08:17 AM
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erm.. 2wd or 4x4 is personal prefrence. i have a 2wd and have driven a forbie but prefer my 2wd. youl need a stage 3 motor for the power your after, as long as its been tuned properly there fine at that power level there prob good upto around 380bhp.. if you have the funds you can modify the engine to last around 450-500bhp all day long.
25-08-2008, 08:26 AM
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If you are undecided between 2 and 4wd, be best to drive one of each.
The 2wd are cheaper to maintain, gearboxes much stronger as well, but tend to have been abused much more.
If looked after can be totally reliable, though if going to do any serious amount of miles or tuning work I would change the ecu for aftermarket.
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The 2wd are cheaper to maintain, gearboxes much stronger as well, but tend to have been abused much more.
If looked after can be totally reliable, though if going to do any serious amount of miles or tuning work I would change the ecu for aftermarket.
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25-08-2008, 08:43 AM
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I preffer the 4x4 as i wanted a car that i can drive all the time, alot more stable in the wet than a 2wd, but you can still break traction if you want to, the only downside from my point of view is the fact that 350 bhp is about your limit, unless you wanna be changing gearboxes all the time.
25-08-2008, 08:51 AM
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Think they've all summed everything up above really.
2wd is the stronger car gearbox wise, BUT that's not saying it wont die if really abused cus it will, same goes for the diff.
2wd also can be tuned to a higher power level than to 4wd until boxes and diffs are changed on the 4wd then you start needing to sell drugs to fund for all the parts.
BUT, a 4wd with a nice solid 350 is a fantastic road car and i'm confident although it'd only be 20/30bhp more than your Scooby was, it'll feel ALOT more responsive with a T34 on running 30psi..
2wd is the stronger car gearbox wise, BUT that's not saying it wont die if really abused cus it will, same goes for the diff.
2wd also can be tuned to a higher power level than to 4wd until boxes and diffs are changed on the 4wd then you start needing to sell drugs to fund for all the parts.
BUT, a 4wd with a nice solid 350 is a fantastic road car and i'm confident although it'd only be 20/30bhp more than your Scooby was, it'll feel ALOT more responsive with a T34 on running 30psi..
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25-08-2008, 08:55 AM
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Whilst you don't NEED to, you will get better mpg/emissions features if you do.
As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
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As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
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25-08-2008, 09:05 AM
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Thanks to all for your replies i think after staffi's post i'm going to go for the 4x4 because 350bhp would enough for me as i dont really hammer cars constantly so it wouldn't be getting that much abuse.i know somebody's going to throw a spanner in the works & say something to make me undecided again but for now its 4x4.i think its got to be a white one already modified hopefully.I know its difficult for an exect price not knowing what year i'm going to go for but any ideas on price for a half decent one
25-08-2008, 09:07 AM
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Whilst you don't NEED to, you will get better mpg/emissions features if you do.
As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
tabetha
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As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
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25-08-2008, 09:09 AM
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btw 4x4 vs 2wd
2wd is faster
2wd accelerates faster
2wd has better brakes
2wd has better gearbox
2wd has better diff
4wd has better engine
4wd wont try to kill you in the wet
4wd will cost more to buy in general
4wd will cost more to fix in general
2wd is faster
2wd accelerates faster
2wd has better brakes
2wd has better gearbox
2wd has better diff
4wd has better engine
4wd wont try to kill you in the wet
4wd will cost more to buy in general
4wd will cost more to fix in general
25-08-2008, 09:22 AM
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Whilst you don't NEED to, you will get better mpg/emissions features if you do.
As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
tabetha
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As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
tabetha
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did you ever think about trying a diffrent stage 3 chip and getting it set up
25-08-2008, 09:25 AM
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ive found aftermarket ecu's tend to require reving the throttle to start ect when mapped,,,, but again its only as good as the person who maps it,,,, same as a cossie ecu i guess
25-08-2008, 09:36 AM
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Thanks to all for your replies i think after staffi's post i'm going to go for the 4x4 because 350bhp would enough for me as i dont really hammer cars constantly so it wouldn't be getting that much abuse.i know somebody's going to throw a spanner in the works & say something to make me undecided again but for now its 4x4.i think its got to be a white one already modified hopefully.I know its difficult for an exect price not knowing what year i'm going to go for but any ideas on price for a half decent one
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25-08-2008, 09:37 AM
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Whilst you don't NEED to, you will get better mpg/emissions features if you do.
As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
tabetha
tabetha
As I said serious tuning or lots of miles mpg would be a most likely consideration for most.
I gave my stage 3 chip away as it was so shit, and as I did not want to be screwed over money wise everytime I did a bit of tuning work for remapping etc did it the better way by means of a aftermarket ecu, which has already saved me loads of money in fuel alone, I used to get(after set up) on old ecu around 240miles to a tank(heavy right foot), same driving now am on 347 miles with 1/3 tank left, tps went tits up when setting up new ecu, so changed to a straight fit(almost) universal one at £25, 1 minute later I had aligned it via laptop that needs NO SPECIAL SOFTWARE AT ALL, with ALL settings accessible , and shed loads more features for the money, just flew through mot with 2.25% co, even though it has not been mapped yet.
tabetha
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