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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Yup, been a clown and lost mine!

Anyone actually successfully removed them with either a removal tool or the 'socket whacking' technique? I'm sure cheap soft lockers would be a doddle, but any advice about McGards would be most welcome!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Yup, been a clown and lost mine!

Anyone actually successfully removed them with either a removal tool or the 'socket whacking' technique? I'm sure cheap soft lockers would be a doddle, but any advice about McGards would be most welcome!!!




And some of these..........



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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Keep reading that McGards are too tough for that technique?
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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If the sockets are cheap enough it ought to be them that distort. Should be enough to get it started at least.

Failing that, park it in Liverpool. Wheels will be off in no time
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Without wanting to dishearten you tooooo much....but I tried that technique on a McGuard & failed miserably and ended up actually cutting the alloy off with a 9" grinder!!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee_R21Turbo
Without wanting to dishearten you tooooo much....but I tried that technique on a McGuard & failed miserably and ended up actually cutting the alloy off with a 9" grinder!!!!
That's what worries me, as it's all 4 wheels!!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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do you still have the box they came in anywhere

if so there is a code in there for what key to be used to get another

if not, then socket and hammer, but you need to get the outer case of the lock off first as they spin, once this is off then the old technic will work

either way though, i think your going to end up scratching the wheels minimum
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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mcgards may be too hard for the socket whacking way, but i obtain a left hand threaded socket and they are the easiest to take off! don't know where you would get one, though. try a wheel specialist?
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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what car?
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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I've removed a few sets with hammer and 17mm. 1 set i had to use a proper set of removers.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Take it down your local tyre fitters, they do this sorta thing all day!!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich170
Take it down your local tyre fitters, they do this sorta thing all day!!
And charge Ł20.

but if you get stuck on the first 1, do the above.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Snap on sell a locking wheel nut removal socket, you tap it onto the locknut, and then undo it like you would with a normal socket think its about 12 quid iirc
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Dan,

There is a tool called the 'Gator' i think - it's basically a cylinder full of little metal pins, the idea is that the pins make contact where they can and have been used to remove McGards...

Alternatively - i think the AA/RAC have some magic sets of locking wheel nut keys...
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Cheers for the advice. I've seen the reverse thread jobbies on fleabay for about a Ł10, but don't want to pay for one if they end up being shit, and I then end up having to pay Kwikyfit.

Whadya reckon - one like this http://tiny.cc/dESWW
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what car?
Mondeo.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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if you go for the socket option, please film
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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get some reverse thread locking whel nut removers, ived use these on mcgaurds and always been sucessful
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Gator grip
weld a nut onto them

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
get some reverse thread locking whel nut removers, ived use these on mcgaurds and always been sucessful
Seems like the best bet so far! Will give a set a go and report back on how I get on. Cheers for your help guys.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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they sell the reverse thread sockets in halfords these days!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Done this many a time with salvage mondeos im sure they keep the lockign key to be akward lol. Best thing is a 3/4 socket bash over the top and undo works a treat ive done over 20 and no problems apart from trying to remove the nut from the socket lol.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich170
Take it down your local tyre fitters, they do this sorta thing all day!!
But not Kwik Fit - they are fucking idiots
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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i work at sandicliffe ford where and we have a master set, if you pop down to another ford garage im sure they would have the same kit at other ford garages
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rab
If the sockets are cheap enough it ought to be them that distort. Should be enough to get it started at least.

Failing that, park it in Liverpool. Wheels will be off in no time
it's fucking idiots like you that pull us down and have not probably even been here but just jump on the scousers are all thieving scum band wagon rant over
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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sorry if i have the wrong end of the stick but jave you lost your wheel locking socket.

if so the old car thief trick is to remove the normal wheel bolts and drive hard or wheel spin and they come loose dead easy,i have tried it and it worked.
it was a scouser who told me who was going straight

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Originally Posted by cozzfather
sorry if i have the wrong end of the stick but jave you lost your wheel locking socket.

if so the old car thief trick is to remove the normal wheel bolts and drive hard or wheel spin and they come loose dead easy,i have tried it and it worked.
it was a scouser who told me who was going straight
You know what....you've probably got a point there! lol
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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i lost my key..but still had the id paperwork thank god

on very deep set tsw wheels.. no garage would even try to get them off

bought 2 new keys iirc Ł15 each
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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hammer and a socket, i take them off all the time, them reversr sockets arnt bad if there not too tight,
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Please dont go to f==kin kwik fit they are shite please they are idiots you can get a remover from halford the thread type or just weld a cut off wheel nut on there and tighten the other 3 bolts up ........
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like i say the way i mentioned works piss easy,i would not waste my time going for the tool box,if your car is rear wheel drive and they are on the front you just drive with the one bolt on and drive hard side to side,they have to loosen off due to the pressure on them.
if its on the rear you just wheel spin and they come loose.

thats how car theifs steel your wheels with out the locking socket if they have taken your car.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
like i say the way i mentioned works piss easy,i would not waste my time going for the tool box,if your car is rear wheel drive and they are on the front you just drive with the one bolt on and drive hard side to side,they have to loosen off due to the pressure on them.
if its on the rear you just wheel spin and they come loose.

thats how car theifs steel your wheels with out the locking socket if they have taken your car.
is that option not going to damage the wheels

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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well mate i have done it and not caused any damage whatsoever, unless you think your going to drive for miles your not going to damage the wheels,just loosen them.
i have done it and then put new oe bolts and not had the wheel nuts come loose again due to damage.
you can just have another wheel nut in slightly opposite the other one if your worried about the wheel coming off
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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I just use a tube of metal around the wheel nut to protect the wheel, then weld a nut/bolt/bit of metal on whatever is lying around.
GATOR will not grip as it needs edges to grip on, I have one of these, usefull for some things but not in this case.
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I've bought a reverse thread thingy from Halfrauds. Will pop into a local friendly garage and ask them to buzz gun them off..
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dan pop into fords as said, they have a box with all the sizes on

done it for me mate when he had a slow puncture

also used the socket tech on my impreza,,,,, THEN FOUND THE FUCKING KEY UNDER THE DRIVERS SEAT

its piss easy mate, no need for air tools at all
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Took my mcgard ones (nuts not studs) off with a socket hammered over them!! I was shocked how easy it worked to be honest - I actually thought about not buying new ones!!
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