Jim Galbally

ok, lets look at all the factors

obviously performance

purchase cost
modification costs
insurance costs
FUN factor
running costs
maintenance costs

what do we recon is going to be the best value for money performance car?

Off the top of my head the first few cars i'd think about here would be

Vaux Nova
Saph Cossie
E36 M3
Pug 205
200SX
R32 Skybus
MX5?

what do you recon guys?

alistairolsen

all depends on whether you want t buy and maintain, or build.

An e36 M3 is a cheap performance bargain, but doing anything to them beyond keeping them good is fucking expensive, especially when you want more power.

an xe nova/corsa needs built, but is dirt cheap in reality, all parts are cheap, turbo engines if you want to go further bolt in etc, but theyre fwd and therefore a bit shit.

vinnyvangough

Have to agree with your list but also think that given a few years the Nissan GTR will be in amongst that list

Rab

MR2 Turbo....

alan12112

Dare I say it

Saxo vts - good start point for a little track weapon

smithy20vt

Early Honda CRX VTI would be my choice

Ginge !

R32 skyline, WTF you seen the price of parts for them ?

saph cossie,, sort of but again most parts are either fucked due to age or just expensive for no real reason

the rest i agree,,, well the nova aint true as its not available as a fun car as such

oh and i would HAVE to say impreza,,, but then again the suspension im about to buy for it will the roll bars ect bring the bill to almost 2k,, so that aint that cheep either i guess

MX5,,,,, nope dont agree, far too gay for me

OH suzuki swift gt thing,,, thats just fucking mental for a little car and i highly rate it

also the vtec hondas are good value too IMO

SNP

Impreza's seem to be going cheap now ?

4wd 200BHP turbo motor with plenty of potential from what i've seen.

But never owned one so couldn't comment on actual performance or running costs.

Charlie Chalk

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Was going to say the same, and a Pug 106 GTi.


200sx without a doubt, Not sure on Skyline though, Not cheap to run, insure or maintain... Although blinding cars.

Rab

This topic will get very very long

Charlie Chalk

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Honda CRX too, good engine, good chassis (for FWD) and can pick em up cheap!

snOOpy86

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im considering getting a fiesta zetec s as a cheap every day/track car.. not to sure what people's opinions are of them yet tho...?

Ginge !

actually imprezas aint cheep to insure either

Markb_s1

pug 205 gti?

Charlie Chalk

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Good cars, I know 'Youndan' loves his.. although his is far from standard, But for a FWD car, they handle quite well I believe

JohnnyB

fuck the scoobie unless the engine is new or rebuild, you will need a big end rebuild sooner more than later

Fil

my S4 anyone want to buy it

no wait johnnyB's cars very good value for the cash

tobyjug_1988

what about a bug 106 raylee, went out in my mates the other week and for a 1.3 the thing fucking flew. went round corners like no FWD car with steelies and high profile tyres should. was really impressed

RichieST

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elise? Or is that a bit

Kam B

cheap mx5 and do a fc3s conversion will be pretty fun on even on standard boost

SiZT

Rover Metro!!! cheap as fucking chips and with a VVC in they tend to go well. Easy to sort the suspension (just pump more fluid into them and individualise it), Easy to sort the brakes (MGF stuff) and it'll lose weight without you even having to touch it

pee vee

15k is cheap!? lol


a cerfully chosen classic scooby..
E36 M3.

Datsun Pulsar/Gti-R (as long as it dont go wrong , some seem to break loads, others not)

Williams clio

Jim Galbally

a GTiR? are you MENTAL

pee vee

i foookin love them!! and TBH the two people i know who have had them,
havnt reaaaaly had that much trouble with them. certainly not on the scale that
charlie chalk has had!!

Charlie Chalk

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GTiR's...... Well not mine

pani_k

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Need to establish some criteria I reckon and give each car a score out of 10 and then total it all up.

big_wig_074

nova 2 litre 16v
will push 150mph on the speedo while upsetting subaru drivers
will return a MINIMUM of 30mpg and over 40mpg on a good run
anything that breaks is cheap as its all standard stuff
can pick the whole lot up for a grand
is pre silly tax
insurance was cheap as chips for me too compared to a 200sx
all round winner

Chip

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200SX gets my vote I reckon as a standard car, massive amount of car for the money IMHO

Nova valver as a modified car, as per above

jameswrx

I'd say without doubt a 95/96 Impreza WRX (260ps std) get one with a decat system and buy a scoobyecu chip (can be had for £40 off ebay now) and you'd have a quick little car circa 280bhp and they have a nice hit of acceleration.

I'd imagine the above could be achieved for circa £1800.. maybe less if you're good. I know someone who bought a grade 4 WRX at auction a few months back with loads of mods (inc custom map at scoobyclinic on esl chip) tracker, hks 3" exh, hks downpipe, new clutch, hks filter, cat 1 alarm, 18's, decent stereo etc etc for £1300 It was a cracking little car and went like a lizard drinking.

Whether you like them or not the performance and fun that car offered for feck all money made it a performance bargain!

Mike C

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Early Impreza WRX
E36 M3
MK3 Supra Turbo

and I reckon something that's been overlooked a little is the NA MK4 Supra. Sure it doesn't have the x-factor that a turbocharged car brings, but for less than £2k you could have a very good looking car with 6 cylinders, 220BHP or so and RWD. Not a fast car by any means, but a lot for the money IMO, and there's a far slower cars out there which people have talked about under this topic

Charlie Chalk

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Out of all the Scoobies, I'd have an RA.

C4llyT

E36 M3.
Out the box will do 160mph, 30mpg, handle ok, brakes will lock at 100 in dry, sound sexual above 5000rpm, pull from 1000 revs, comfortable, have lsd, engines go on forever and have itb's, and most importantly when you've got the wipers on and stop, they go to intermittent lol.

Am biased, but looked into many many cars before getting one and it ticked all the boxes.

Andy_R

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Clio 172/182's good about town better still on track, you can pick them up from £2.5k.

jameswrx

Yes, good choice. I'm currently looking for one as a weekend toy. I'm after the STI RA.. nice short ratio box, only 125 flat out but they get there fast! DCCD to play with 4.4sec to 60 std etc Not that cheap compared to the rest of the early imprezas but should be good fun!

tobyjug_1988

what about an old volvo T5 (850 or first shape v70), i know the handling aint the best but the engine is so fucking sweet and tuneable. performance parts ain't the easiest to come by but ive heard of stupid power T5s in scandenavia (sp) 500+bhp

fordsportjay

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e36 m3.

excellent fun per pound

dumptackler

wat bout evo 5/6
fairly cheap can get em for about as much as a decent saph
built tough nothing breaks
sweet handling and impressive grunt as standard
look the bollocks and aftermarket parts are easy to find

wattie

astra gte 16v, thats my track car, stripped to the bone with decent suspension and stoppers cams and exhaust and i'v passed a few subarus round knockhll in it and it'll eat pug 205's all day, pound for pound the best track car i'v had

rickbartlett

u can pick up a half decent series 2 cheap.chip it and u got nearly 200 bhp.cant moan at that

Escy

MR2 Turbo, you can pick an early one up for less than £1500. Insurance group 16 so not too bad. Lots of potential for tuning.