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Old 14-08-2008, 01:40 PM
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Is it me or do some really have nothing to do???

i just got pulled over in my run about for having a cut down plate, i am to get a new one made and fitted and get a mot centre to stamp it and then post it to the police!

i mean they stopped me for 15 mins asked me the usual but really just for a very slight cut down plate??? i've seen loads worse than that ignored. surely they should actually be looking for people with no insurance or actual criminals than people who pay for there cars properly...


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Old 14-08-2008, 01:42 PM
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So the police pulled you as you were in a car that didn't satisfy the correct road criteria ?
Old 14-08-2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SNP
So the police pulled you as you were in a car that didn't satisfy the correct road criteria ?
Yes it seem's to me that the motor vehicle he was travelling in was not road legal also, damn police stopping possible non roadworthy vehicles from possibly causing an accident
Old 14-08-2008, 01:54 PM
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They could spend time looking for people with no insurance or actual criminals if everyone had legal number plates and time was not wasted enforcing the laws in this area.

That's the thing about the police, they seem to have a problem with any law being broken
Old 14-08-2008, 01:56 PM
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"Man causes accident from a small number plate" I bet you couldn't even find that on the internet anywhere....
Anyway joking aside, it is a pain in the arse when you get stopped, but thats the risk you take, 99% of us have knowingly done things we know are against the rules, small plates and tinted windows are the biggest by far I'd think. I should know PMSL.
Old 14-08-2008, 01:58 PM
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Assuming it was one of the cars in your siggy I'm not surprised.
Niether is very good for avoiding attention.

People get away with worse every day but they dont fit the hit list 'criteria'.
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Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
That's the thing about the police, they seem to have a problem with any law being broken
The bastard's

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Old 14-08-2008, 02:07 PM
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I didn't realise it was illegal to have a cut down number plate as long as the characters were of the correct height and correctly spaced
I could be wrong though, last time I got stopped they never mentioned anything about mine, he just wanted to check it wasn't stolen as he said you dont see many of these out this time of the year.
He was a very nice bloke and we had a good old chin wag
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Originally Posted by bpspa
I didn't realise it was illegal to have a cut down number plate as long as the characters were of the correct height and correctly spaced
I could be wrong though, last time I got stopped they never mentioned anything about mine, he just wanted to check it wasn't stolen as he said you dont see many of these out this time of the year.
He was a very nice bloke and we had a good old chin wag
You do now
Old 14-08-2008, 02:11 PM
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if you are going to use non legal number plates nowadays you might as well leave the reg off and use this reg instead PULL ME or this one FINE ME
Old 14-08-2008, 02:14 PM
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Do you find that works better???
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I was also under the impression that cut down plates arent illegal as long as the display the correct font, size and gap between the letters.
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so how bigs the plate,
Old 14-08-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by adamski frst

i just got pulled over in my run about for having a cut down plate, i am to get a new one made and fitted and get a mot centre to stamp it and then post it to the police!
When you get the bit of paper stamped, laser copy it on some A4 paper with the GB sign to the left making it look like a number plate, then cut trim it down a bit and then post it through to them with the original stamped bit.

I need to get out a bit more
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Originally Posted by ANDYRACER
I was also under the impression that cut down plates arent illegal as long as the display the correct font, size and gap between the letters.
ditto!
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To make all this enforceable every number plate suppliers must be registered with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency and must show his name and post code on each number plate he supplies.
In addition you must supply proof of I.D.when buying plates ( preferrably a photocard driving licence ) and also proof that the number is yours( V5 registration document ( log book) , V750 (pink) or V778 (green) certificate for the registration number, V11 vehicle licence renewal, or V948).
The supplier must keep records of all the above and make them available to the police if requested.
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I was of the opinion that not only the correct font, size and gap between the letters mattered but also the amount of reflective material around the letters.

Number plates also have to conform to the British Standard and if you have cut these down you have changed the specification of them, there is also a pretty good chance you have cut of the BS kite mark
Old 14-08-2008, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ANDYRACER
I was also under the impression that cut down plates arent illegal as long as the display the correct font, size and gap between the letters.
Not true as above found out

Here is the DVLA link that explains it all http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/lea...mberplates.pdf


It states from what size the letters should be, what size margin (minimum) has to be set round the letters and also
The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
l The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or component supplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
l The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean a company whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
l A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters areoptional additions.
l There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.
So cutting down the plate will shorten the margin from the letters and possibly cut off the above quote making it an illegal plate

Even the football logos, playboy etc that people have on the end of the plate are illegal not that I want playboy on mine
Old 14-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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the plate is 1cm cut off, std letters... The thing is my run about is a saxo (agreed known for young people but im 25) but ITS REALLY SAD i litterally loaded the car outside our shop full of plastic to recycle as it was tipping it down with rain and i took the car the recylce place is 100mtrs from the shop not had a problem since i had the plates 12 months ago. and they decide to follow me round the corner to the recycle place...

SAD BASTARDS!
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Remember........

"Don't allow anything to be in your life that you can't walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner"......That includes plastic bottles I'm afraid
Old 14-08-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
the plate is 1cm cut off, std letters... The thing is my run about is a saxo (agreed known for young people but im 25) but ITS REALLY SAD i litterally loaded the car outside our shop full of plastic to recycle as it was tipping it down with rain and i took the car the recylce place is 100mtrs from the shop not had a problem since i had the plates 12 months ago. and they decide to follow me round the corner to the recycle place...

SAD BASTARDS!
who are sad the police or 25 year olds that drive saxos with cut down plates
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
who are sad the police or 25 year olds that drive saxos with cut down plates

Its a sad time in my life , wanting a Tdi now as gonna travel alot but it seriously has been a good car never let me down....

but cant believe you go to recycle stuff and get pulled .. NEVER WILL I DO MY BIT FOR THE ENVIROMENT AGAIN!!!
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don't forget when you get your new legal plate to recycle the old one
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On his way to the local Recyling centre......

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Originally Posted by rog
Remember........

"Don't allow anything to be in your life that you can't walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner"......That includes plastic bottles I'm afraid



classic quote robert
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
don't forget when you get your new legal plate to recycle the old one

Amen to that
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there is no rule to say your umberplate must be a certain size, only the letters and their spacing should conform to the rules

so you can have a plate with a 1mm border around the numbers and letters and be perfectly fine with it

it's the coppers wanting to stop you for being in a flash car, i think they are secretly jelous that someone with odd sized numberplates can afford a big posh motor to put them on without having stolen them from a pimped up chav racer
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/...mbe5542?page=2
a very helpful simple clear explanation of the rules and laws regarding number plates from the department of transport

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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
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To make all this enforceable every number plate suppliers must be registered with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency and must show his name and post code on each number plate he supplies.
In addition you must supply proof of I.D.when buying plates ( preferrably a photocard driving licence ) and also proof that the number is yours( V5 registration document ( log book) , V750 (pink) or V778 (green) certificate for the registration number, V11 vehicle licence renewal, or V948).
The supplier must keep records of all the above and make them available to the police if requested.

the plates on my car are like 10 years old, they are plain and simple, with no logo's on them, so does that mean i need to buy new ones?
who's going to pay for them?
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
You do now
I stand corrected, thank you for enlightening me, but surely the police can not enforce the postcode and supplying outfit part as surely this only applies to number plates bought after the date that rule was introduced, as I was under the impression that is fairly recently.

If I'm mistaken then I will get my coat
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the name, postcode and BSAU number must be visible on the plate of any car registered on or after 1st September 2001
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Originally Posted by SiZT
the name, postcode and BSAU number must be visible on the plate of any car registered on or after 1st September 2001
o my plates on my 89 car can be chopped and changed as much as i wish? as long as they are within the old ruels?
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
Is it me or do some really have nothing to do???

i just got pulled over in my run about for having a cut down plate, i am to get a new one made and fitted and get a mot centre to stamp it and then post it to the police!
Was that for a totally standard plate just trimmed down to the edge of the letters?

I was stopped about 6 months ago for having a pretty small front plate(the letters were actually a good bit smaller). That was fair enough so I changed it to a full sized plate and got it stampted etc and sorted.

Just put a private reg on my car though which is 5 digits, so I got totally standard plates and just trimmed them down. So is that illegal? I'm sure I read somewhere that you could do that if there were less digits? They're a bunch of fucking bell-ends anyway...although just like everything in life, you get some nice guys and some tossers that enjoy belittleing you just because they have the power.

This is my plate below

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Originally Posted by dojj
there is no rule to say your umberplate must be a certain size, only the letters and their spacing should conform to the rules

so you can have a plate with a 1mm border around the numbers and letters and be perfectly fine with it

it's the coppers wanting to stop you for being in a flash car, i think they are secretly jelous that someone with odd sized numberplates can afford a big posh motor to put them on without having stolen them from a pimped up chav racer
Sorry thats answered my question, should have read the full thread
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Maybe the copper saw "THAT" pic of you on another well known website and thought 15 mins with the stud muffin would be fun

i should post it up but i can't bring meself to do it to a fellow escort coz owner
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Originally Posted by Alan_D
Sorry thats answered my question, should have read the full thread
yes mine is similar to yours hence why i'm annoyed


Originally Posted by cozzfather
Maybe the copper saw "THAT" pic of you on another well known website and thought 15 mins with the stud muffin would be fun

i should post it up but i can't bring meself to do it to a fellow escort coz owner

its been spread everywhere there is other pics there just not circling atm...
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Originally Posted by dojj
it's the coppers wanting to stop you for being in a flash car
Its a bloody Saxo
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Originally Posted by bpspa
I didn't realise it was illegal to have a cut down number plate as long as the characters were of the correct height and correctly spaced
I could be wrong though, last time I got stopped they never mentioned anything about mine, he just wanted to check it wasn't stolen as he said you dont see many of these out this time of the year.
He was a very nice bloke and we had a good old chin wag
they need something like a 12mm edge from all of the letters all the way round ( someone will correct me if im wrong )

Hence we trimmed the Cossie one down and never had a single problem as it was trimmed to be within the legal guidelines! ( the fact it was B111 made the left and right hand sides of the plate massive )
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
yes mine is similar to yours hence why i'm annoyed
i was taking the piss

or have you forgotten that?
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Originally Posted by dojj
i was taking the piss

or have you forgotten that?
dude all good, incidently have you driven your ca with the quickshift as mine drives like a pig i'm away to remove it ...


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