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Old 29-06-2008, 10:11 PM
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Default Cossie powered Dax at croft

Not sure whos it is, was just looking through my pics from yesterday, looks like a potential issue....
Old 29-06-2008, 10:15 PM
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well spotted!
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I think that is user PGT who uses this site ?
Old 30-06-2008, 12:14 PM
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If not the fuel, then also tell him that if the car rolls.........his head is in for it! That roll bar at the rear is useless!!!
Old 30-06-2008, 12:42 PM
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The roll bars on DAXs always seem to be useless. Not only are they too short but look at the way it is angles back. Asking to be broken off in a roll. Som back stays would be the answer.
Old 30-06-2008, 12:47 PM
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Surprised it wasnt quicker if it was a YB powered one, didnt seem to have much pace.
Old 30-06-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
The roll bars on DAXs always seem to be useless. Not only are they too short but look at the way it is angles back. Asking to be broken off in a roll. Som back stays would be the answer.
Actually applies to a lot of the motorised coffins..... - the roll bars are always either a token gesture, or poorly designed.
Old 30-06-2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Actually applies to a lot of the motorised coffins..... - the roll bars are always either a token gesture, or poorly designed.
Totally correct Rich, and those slanted Dax ones are just awful! Their bigger type cage thing with the side bars is nicer and much safer. (if there is such a thing)

The old bar on mine may as well been made out of chocolate. It was rubbish, hence why I changed to an RAC approved version with a forward stay too. I may go the whole hog and get the front section caged as well now. Be a bit heavier, but i'll just turn the boost up to compensate!
Old 30-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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Yes that multi coloured steering wheel is a serious issue!

Well done Stephen for bring it up... it could really hurt someones eyes that!

Polly, I've got some mechano up in the loft that I dont need. you wanna use that to add to cage?

Best get it done before saturday... as you bathtub is going to take OFF at Combe...
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I was actually highlighting the fuel coming out of the petrol cap but yes the cage does look iffy.
Old 30-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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Stephen C - thanks for pointing that out (the petrol!) was it right at the start of a session because i always fill it right up since the take off is at the right side resulting in fuel starvation on long rights after 4-5 laps. this means a small amount gets stuck in the filler and drops out as soon as you boot it

Rocky Robin - most seven type cars have shite roll over bars. even if the bar is higher than the dax (which all are), a line drawn from bar to the front-most hard point invariably has the head above it. the question is do you wnat to be dead or cabbaged

Garage 19 - no where to connect any stays to - the tank is in the way

Chip - you're right it was mostly running crap. to start with could not get more than 1 bar boost at all and once had done say 1 lap and the thing heated up was miss-firing at 4.5k + anyway. Lawnsy correctly diagnosed the lack of boost due to leaking dump valve but still had bad miss fire.

Couldn't even get on the track at first as it failed noise test @ 103. down to darlington poundstrecher to buy brillo pads and a leccy drill and retest showed 96. there was so many brillo pads in it that there was NO boost at all untill it eventually all melted and fell out at which point the marshalls realised that it was not actually very noisy on drive past anyway so let me off!

A great day anyway and thanks to all involved
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Ah, thats a shame about the boost, still at least its easily fixed I guess

Will be interesting to see how it goes when its running properly.
Old 30-06-2008, 02:03 PM
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did the brillo pads clean your exhaust
Old 30-06-2008, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
did the brillo pads clean your exhaust
They nearly cleaned sketch's bumper at one point
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Originally Posted by Chip
They nearly cleaned sketch's bumper at one point
one has to beware of low flying brillo pads
i take it the brillo pad was traveling at a greater velocity that the dax

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Old 30-06-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
one has to beware of low flying brillo pads
i take it the brillo pad was traveling at a greater velocity that the dax
I dont think there was a lot in it speedwise, lol
Old 30-06-2008, 02:18 PM
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LOL at brillo pad's bet they smelt nice.

Good spot on the pic.

The problem is with any cage in an open top car is if you roll onto something soft. I.e. gravel traps.
Old 30-06-2008, 02:27 PM
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Mines not great either my head sits about level with it... so id have to try an duck a little if it did go over...

Old 01-07-2008, 08:16 AM
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The RAC bars fitted to Westfields and Caterhams do the job. My thought are if I was to get another track orientatted Caterham it would have a full cage. This was its a double wammy, full protection and a much stiffer chassis.

Talking about brillow pads

Old 01-07-2008, 08:25 AM
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im sure launsy sead its 4x4 must be good fun borrow galachers engine and box and see what happens lol
Old 01-07-2008, 09:14 AM
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My mates proper Westfield roll cage, i wouldn't have one of these cars without one.


Old 01-07-2008, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rossco22
Mines not great either my head sits about level with it... so id have to try an duck a little if it did go over...

If thats the one that has a single bolt underneath each pilar then it may as well be made of candy floss!!!! Get yourself an RAC version at minimum!!! Much taller and stronger
Old 01-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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I wouldn't even consider driving one fast without the full cage round me.

I went out for a lap of the ring in one and it was terrifying being that close to the ground. An m5 that went past looked the same size as the titanic...

scary!

ps - the one I was in had a full cage and a very complicated entry and exit strategy lol

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Mines a factory westfield roll bar, so should be half decent unless your 6'ft2 +
Old 01-07-2008, 02:37 PM
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Dax Rush's with upgraded "RAC" spec rollbars.












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Loveing them Dax's
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still reckon the head is sticking out of a line between the top of the cage and the hardest part at the front (prob the front of the can cover).

btw how does the air get to that rear tub mounted radiator?
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Originally Posted by PGT
still reckon the head is sticking out of a line between the top of the cage and the hardest part at the front (prob the front of the can cover).

btw how does the air get to that rear tub mounted radiator?
Lots of ducting.
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I was waiting for someone to post some dax pictures of the RAC cage - I would but mines still in bits and looks like a climbing frame

In defence of Dax's standard bars (I know they are low) they are an integeral part of the chassis and run down the rear bulk head to where the car could be jacked up (5" off the floor), not bolted to the top of the chassis like some other types.

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Originally Posted by PGT
still reckon the head is sticking out of a line between the top of the cage and the hardest part at the front (prob the front of the can cover).

btw how does the air get to that rear tub mounted radiator?
I had the option to adjust the height to suit me when I ordered
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Originally Posted by rossco22
Mines a factory westfield roll bar, so should be half decent unless your 6'ft2 +
Trust me, it maybe a factory item but its not up to the job. Take a look at the mounts.

I used to have one and realised when I rebuilt me car just how much better the RAC version is.

I need to get a cage on mine really.
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Originally Posted by polly_x
Trust me, it maybe a factory item but its not up to the job. Take a look at the mounts.

I used to have one and realised when I rebuilt me car just how much better the RAC version is.

I need to get a cage on mine really.


I think id better have a closer look at mine then see how well its mounted & how strong it is...
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Originally Posted by Daxcossie
Dax Rush's with upgraded "RAC" spec rollbars.
Thats one nicely prepared car
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Originally Posted by Chip
Surprised it wasnt quicker if it was a YB powered one, didnt seem to have much pace.
On the very last session on saturday we both went out in it after blanking the dumpvalve off and it ran just under 2 bar as it should and was going very well for the first 3 laps.....The car prob did not look as fast as it DID go as it is really low comp so no big mid range torque and it is 4 wheel drive and had some nice grippy tyre's on so no rear end hangouts...

The session i was out with him we did overtake a evo and a escos so it's not that slow.....just a shame after 3 laps the new 071 plugs that were put in for croft started to miss at high revs...

Oh and cheers again for the passinger ride PGT...
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Think my old one was the higher type - rac as its put on here. Still think a cage is a much wiser idea as I often felt a little exposed when it was out of shape on small roads.
I thought my cars passenger seat was funnier, yes it is fitted in that pic and the harnesses are there........

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Originally Posted by Daxcossie
Dax Rush's with upgraded "RAC" spec rollbars.















jesus how much horsepower they running
bet thats quick haha
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