danneth

wouldn't him been a shit driver make him alot worse in the FRS?

Jim Galbally

depends on how you drive, it takes a totally different technique to make a FWD car go round a track fast than it does in a RWD car.

FWD is a lot easier to get along with and less intimidating IMHO

DAN P

iTrader: (1)

my m8 has just got a 340 bhp frs i will see how my 300 bhp e36 does against it think i might get past if it blows up lol

C4llyT

Not really, gay wheel drive you just keep your toe down, and worst that'll happen is a bit of predictable safe understter - hence they're used as driving school cars, as opposed to rear wheel drive being used by proper drivers.
The 4x4 and ayc you have to keep your foot buried, and can take some getting used to, and some big balls IMO.

So fwd, or 4x4 with ayc etc, why did they bother with all that technology and expense if it's no better, and fwd defies the laws of physics?

danneth

well he did own the car? so imguessing he had time to get use to it.... i think hes the perfect person to comment imo has owned both cars yet theres alot of people that have prob never driven either that just love knowing it all ( not aimed at you )

C4llyT

Appreciate that mate, but fwd (2 wheels driven at wrong end) vs 4x4 (4 driven wheels plus ayc forcing it round), not much to compare there.

Mr Orange

The point of the tread,

No mention of corners, the nurburgring or even how much it beat it by.
A nose length? a car length? 5?
Only the thread starter knows that. All we have is he beat it.

We all know the M3 is a great car, the focus Rs is also a great car.
Both are top of their respective classes for what they deliver.

The end

foreigneRS

and what might happen if you start getting safe understeer with your toe down and you lift off suddenly? on something like an FRS with it's trick diff, things are a lot less predictable than a driving school nissan micra and it takes skill to get the best out of it. the m3 will allow you to keep your toe in, as it has ESP

danneth

8:47 Honda Civic Type-R 200PS/1204KG

Sport Auto 11/01

8:49 Volkswagen Golf R32 250PS/1591KG

Sport Auto 09/06

who needs 4WD

C4llyT

They have almost identical power to weight, within one or two brake, so taking drivetrain loss into account, the Honda will have a better power to weight going to the road.
How many hairpin corners on that track?!

AndyBrew

makes all the difference when you go through the hedge forwards instead of backwards

foreigneRS

none - only 2 corners are taken in 2nd gear

Paul Eggleton

Is this gay thread still going?

Crowder

CHeeky fuck i can fucking drive mate and when the rs was on h&r's and paradas i knew its limits it was very punchly set up and went awesome. The evo was mint and the ayc i had done when i brought it even though it was perfect.

in the dry my rs would have outpaced my evo after 50

Crowds.

Crowder

only rwd car i;ve had was a 330cii took in px for my first rs. loved rwd yeh but didnt mean the rs was any worse cus it was fwd!

CAlly wat do u drive btw? dont say a corsa . Hard to gauge people who say there brother or mate has this and that and it does this. When im putting it from my own experience.

Dont forget i'd still have a csl if i could it was a bargain too muppet for not buying it !

Crowds.

DangerousBryan

he drives a 3.0 e36 m3 i think mate.