pete mcrash

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.....asked about cams (but bit of a gost town )....now asking whats the most power u can expect out of a std head..???...(with what cams)...cheers.... Pete

BigErn

Expect the usual array of varying answers mate. Oh and ask your tuner.

SillyFezzaMk1

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Think you can squeeze 400 ish out of a std head.

Dan

pete mcrash

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...........thats my fookin answer............

SillyFezzaMk1

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you can ask any tuner, they'll all tell you about the 400bhp mark LOL

pete mcrash

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..........i've done more and i've read of others on here....(but how accurate are R/R'ds)

BigErn

Well ya cant say it to yourself, that would be silly.

Id say your pretty much at the limit of a standard head at 420bhp mate. You thinking of feeding the urge for more ponies like?

pete mcrash

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.........i did 420 @ 26 psi.......the car holds 28..(r/r argument)........thinking about bigger injectors and more boost........but will a cam help..????

Edmund

You will start to suffer from surge at higher boost,i dont think cams will help as you can only get so much air through the ports before they need opening up.On a t34.63 the cossie can take all its boost on std head but on a T4 it will surge at over 1.5bar which i guess is 410ish bhp.

Mark RS

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i got mine rolling roaded at 427 bhp its on std engine at the min but dont think it will last much longer

pete mcrash

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................why i'm asking is.......................my tuner says my car is a good 380bhp.............sound................but it pisses 400+ on the rollers...........I WANT MORE.............but do i really need head work..???.........

Edmund

YES.

NEIL A

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I would say yes, you may manage to get a bit more power but you will be stressing parts, by getting the head done it will make more power with less stress on the engine.

pete mcrash

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pete mcrash

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.................i just want to run this turbo a BIT harder...............u know what i mean

JTECH James

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you want more power even though your breaking boxes etc already.....

nice priority

before we know it youl be posting up on here, my cars broke,there shit, its crap.....tbh what do you expect is going to happen here?

pete mcrash

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...............tell u what ...u said the same to me a while ago...(word for word)...................IF MY BOX BREAKS ......IT'S MY FAULT O.K....................ps i've had this std box since sept/ish............................so FUCK OFF WITH UR SHITE.............by all means answer my question..........but other that that...............shh

NEIL A

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I think if your near the 400 bhp mark Pete you will end up getting very little gains for each extra psi of boost as the head will become restrictive. I know its more exspensive but with head work you will get more power for the same boost and have less stress on the engine.

pete mcrash

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cheers neil..........i know porting would be better..but if i can get say....20-40bhp extra....with just "bigger stuff"......that would be good.......(i dont belive mine is 420)

JTECH James

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at least tell me you havent got std brakes

pete mcrash

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...........no they've got groves in em............

JTECH James

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std calipers?

BigErn

You can Pete. Bigger ports in the head.

pete mcrash

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.....why ..u going to REPORT me to VOSA....???

Jay,

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JTECH James

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no, i was thinking my car...give it half your bhp, would still be faster point to point than yours

you must have a different idea of a fast car to me...

pete mcrash

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.........we all know by the way u go one that u are better than everyone else........................we're not worthey........

col cos1

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most i sqeezed out of mine on standard head with bd14s was around 410-420bhp pete

JTECH James

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quite the oposite pete....

your a class act, most of us find our cossies under braked at stg 3 power, here you are at 400, wanting more with std ones...you must be a hell of a driver

JamesH

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pete mcrash

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..............see there u go again..............i've had 6pots for years.................u just think u know..................doh....if we still had the old "my car" room............u could read all about it......

JTECH James

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i didnt think anything....i fookin asked you

anyway,i give up trying to make you see sence.

goodluck with your quest for power,
remember, the wilder the cam, generally you gain a few bhp, but loose some torque on the way ...so consider how the car will drive, especialy off boost with your lower comp

pete mcrash

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...................Q........................... see u can give adivse

JTECH James

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im just trying to make you see, making your car more powerfull,and potentialy more unreliable,wont necessarily make it faster,

its about creating a complete package, brakes, drivetrain, handling.


400bhp, could be devestatingly quick when combined with the rest...

look at marcos rs2000....std power, but my old spec 370bhp saff struggled to stay near him at coombe..well i couldnt round corners...

i wasnt digging at you...ive just learnt it the hard way, and waisted lots of money on the way,to acheive something that could have cost half as much if id done it to start with

pete mcrash

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........ok fella..................but mine is a road car......i've also learned lessons and spent money on things not needed...........(coil overs).....but i'm more than happy with my brakes,turbo......and my front diff has been plated.....but i never...(never)...launch the car........and the only time i've ever done a box is when /after i've fluffed a 3rd gear change.......(broken cog...gets worse etc).........front n back diffs have been fine so far and this box has lasted about 6k ...(..i'm not shy with the power..).....

Roosie

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do you not rate coilovers then pete

JTECH James

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does your boost come in with a bang? or smooth

pete mcrash

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................not the springs i was advised...............

pete mcrash

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.............smooth.........ut t38..-31..ahmed mapped....(dont need a big spike to think ur going fast.....)

JTECH James

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i was thinking you could use air injectors to give a smoother boost curve to help your box...but maybe ahmed already sorted it..