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05-07-2008, 08:32 AM
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do press get to go in early or something? on the website i can only get tickets from the 23rd?
05-07-2008, 08:38 AM
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05-07-2008, 12:09 PM
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Just because there may not be any on track at Combe does not mean people dont use them on the track
05-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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I think the green one looks the absolute bollocks, fooking love it!! It will always be a shame Ford didn't go the 4x4 400BHP 'Evo competing' route BUT from owning a fairly potent example of the Mk1 FRS it doesn't really bother me that its FWD. Ok, so its never going to be able to be tuned to have the straight line pace of a 500BHP+ Escos/Evo though. 
As for the brakes, I agree with Mike. It mentions all the other key components but doesn't mention anything about the calipers. I also agree that this is a let down. Not to say the setup they have in mind won't be good but imo it should at least come with Brembo 4 pots.
Also, regarding track work and RS owners, my Focus was used on track/the Ring within the first 6 months of ownership and over the last 2yrs it has ONLY come out to do a trackday or to drive to and from a trackday! lol Quite a few of the FRS boys 'play' at trackdays too doing parade laps etc.
IMO it should be produced with this in mind given the growing popularity of track days, it has the diff, the seats, the power (sort of) and theres talk of it being available with the option for different tyres suited to track days, so it needs to have the brakes.
Time will tell, either way I'm now really excited about seeing it on the 23rd.
As for the brakes, I agree with Mike. It mentions all the other key components but doesn't mention anything about the calipers. I also agree that this is a let down.
Not to say the setup they have in mind won't be good but imo it should at least come with Brembo 4 pots.Also, regarding track work and RS owners, my Focus was used on track/the Ring within the first 6 months of ownership and over the last 2yrs it has ONLY come out to do a trackday or to drive to and from a trackday! lol Quite a few of the FRS boys 'play' at trackdays too doing parade laps etc.
IMO it should be produced with this in mind given the growing popularity of track days, it has the diff, the seats, the power (sort of) and theres talk of it being available with the option for different tyres suited to track days, so it needs to have the brakes.Time will tell, either way I'm now really excited about seeing it on the 23rd.
05-07-2008, 05:40 PM
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I think the green one looks the absolute bollocks, fooking love it!! It will always be a shame Ford didn't go the 4x4 400BHP 'Evo competing' route BUT from owning a fairly potent example of the Mk1 FRS it doesn't really bother me that its FWD. Ok, so its never going to be able to be tuned to have the straight line pace of a 500BHP+ Escos/Evo though.
As for the brakes, I agree with Mike. It mentions all the other key components but doesn't mention anything about the calipers. I also agree that this is a let down. Not to say the setup they have in mind won't be good but imo it should at least come with Brembo 4 pots.
Also, regarding track work and RS owners, my Focus was used on track/the Ring within the first 6 months of ownership and over the last 2yrs it has ONLY come out to do a trackday or to drive to and from a trackday! lol Quite a few of the FRS boys 'play' at trackdays too doing parade laps etc. IMO it should be produced with this in mind given the growing popularity of track days, it has the diff, the seats, the power (sort of) and theres talk of it being available with the option for different tyres suited to track days, so it needs to have the brakes.
Time will tell, either way I'm now really excited about seeing it on the 23rd.
As for the brakes, I agree with Mike. It mentions all the other key components but doesn't mention anything about the calipers. I also agree that this is a let down.
Not to say the setup they have in mind won't be good but imo it should at least come with Brembo 4 pots.Also, regarding track work and RS owners, my Focus was used on track/the Ring within the first 6 months of ownership and over the last 2yrs it has ONLY come out to do a trackday or to drive to and from a trackday! lol Quite a few of the FRS boys 'play' at trackdays too doing parade laps etc.
IMO it should be produced with this in mind given the growing popularity of track days, it has the diff, the seats, the power (sort of) and theres talk of it being available with the option for different tyres suited to track days, so it needs to have the brakes.Time will tell, either way I'm now really excited about seeing it on the 23rd.
07-07-2008, 08:20 AM
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Stu et al,
Say what you like, but only an idiot would disbelieve that the only reason performance cars come with sliding callipers is due to budget constraints. Perhaps YOU should remind Ferarri / Porsche / Mercedes etc that their Brembo callipers should be replaced with those oh-so efficient sliding callipers . You don't see many Mercedes on track days either, but they still think that sliding callipers aren't all that, to the extent that they are only used on their "budget" cars .
FYI 2wd Cosworths don't come with sliding callipers (as that is the only 80s "icon" I have ever owned) . I've driven LOTS of modern performance cars with sliding callipers and have yet to drive one that I have felt the brakes were up to it. I agree they work more than adequately on normal cars, but even a Jag 3.0 S-type feels woefully underbraked.
Say what you like, but only an idiot would disbelieve that the only reason performance cars come with sliding callipers is due to budget constraints
. Perhaps YOU should remind Ferarri / Porsche / Mercedes etc that their Brembo callipers should be replaced with those oh-so efficient sliding callipers . You don't see many Mercedes on track days either, but they still think that sliding callipers aren't all that, to the extent that they are only used on their "budget" cars .FYI 2wd Cosworths don't come with sliding callipers (as that is the only 80s "icon" I have ever owned
) . I've driven LOTS of modern performance cars with sliding callipers and have yet to drive one that I have felt the brakes were up to it. I agree they work more than adequately on normal cars, but even a Jag 3.0 S-type feels woefully underbraked.
07-07-2008, 08:37 AM
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just finding my feet
aint they just got 300mm discs and mondeo calipers still though i thought
mike what stu is saying is that for MOST applications the car will be used at ( fast road ) then they will be fine,,,,,, anyone whos gonna use it for track will be changing the pads at a min ANYWAY,,,, most will change the brakes too if used alot ( would you not agree )
OF COURSE its a price thing,,,,, everything on the car is based on price and for being in the situation they are in NEED to worry about price as they have done ALOT of radical stuff the last 18 months to cut corners and reduce loosing money
im sure that cars these days with the difference in tyres and susepension and geometry ect ect ect that this will ALSO help benifit the brakes too
either way i aint bothered as it looks nice,,,, just not something i would wanna buy with my 25k ( plus options )
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