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Old 11-06-2008, 12:12 AM
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Default 2008 Cosworth Sunbeam

Hello folks,

I thought I'd put up some pics of this years Sunbeam following a complete ground up rebuild over winter. We'll be at the RSOC Croft day and at TOTB if you want to see the car in action. We're doing charity rides at croft if anyone fancies a passenger ride.

Here's some pics:



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I love this car !

Look forward to seeing it at totb
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Love it!
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Awesome
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Stunning!!!
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one of my firm faves! totally awesome
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Car looks superb Karl, credit to all involved, has to be one of my fav cars, goes abit too.......

What's it on now Karl a GT35 Setup??

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Old 11-06-2008, 06:40 AM
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awesome as ever Karl
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Brillaint!

It will be interesting to see how it goes at TOTB
Old 11-06-2008, 07:39 AM
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Should of come from the factory like that ha ha
Old 11-06-2008, 07:57 AM
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any close ups of engine bay?
Old 11-06-2008, 08:14 AM
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Stunning
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Thats so cool

More pics please

Paul
Old 11-06-2008, 08:31 AM
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Was my personal "car of the show" at the Rally Show on Sunday, did'nt realise it was your car. Luv it
Need to book my capri in to be mapped next week, will have to give you a ring.
Old 11-06-2008, 08:46 AM
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very cool car indeed
Old 11-06-2008, 09:17 AM
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Looks awesome Karl!" Last time I saw it run was ND 07' at Rockingham!

What's the power estimate for this year, more than last? Isn't it 600bhp+!?
Old 11-06-2008, 09:19 AM
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Absolutely love this car too .

If I am there, I will certainly be booking a ride .

Just noticed that it has a K&N filter instead of your usual ITG foam one? Any reason for the change?
Old 11-06-2008, 09:35 AM
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I love that so much my dad had a sumbeam wen we were kids and it was shit but that is the dogs bollox cosworth power does the car so much justice
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Stunning car!
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It looks so unassuming!!! bloody love it!

so many nice touches on it too...those wheels are nicer than the minilites too, the silver strip finishes it off nicely
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That's wicked! Saw it at TOTB last year and it shifted then!!
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Do you have a picture of the inner rear arches at all please mate? Interested to see how you've got clearance for the wheels!
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wicked car,,,love it karl
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i wanna try and go out in it to, was watching it on youtube and Daz in the dolly
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Stunning as always Karl, and I'm sure it'll be showing a clean pair of heels to most of the other cars on track.............Brilliant.

M5 is still keeping me entertained, and Maxest is still devoloping the Cosworth. All is well.

Jim
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It's running around 540bhp for this year, a little up on last year, but the main differences are in the rev band. It's running the same short stroke bottom end as I use in my own car which means 9000rpm upper limit. As it comes on boost at 3800rpm it gives a HUGE power band which is essential for hill climbing and sprints where the car normally competes.

Mike, we had to change to the K&N due to technical issues with the ITG. Normally I have the ITG filters made with an internal plastic mesh to keep the foam cylinder rigid, however due to lack of room this was left out of the foam which promptly resulted in the filter collapsing on boost! Hence for now we're running the K&N until we can find a better solution.

Chip, I have no clear photos inside the rear arches, but in essence we trimmed the outer skin to the inside radius of the extended arch and then extended the inner arch to meet with the trimmed outer skin. The arches are aluminium and then rivoted onto the trimmed arch. This gives room for 10 inch wheels and up to 260mm wide tyres. Incedentally we had these new alloy arches made 1 inch wider than normal Group 4 lotus arches to give us some extra room.

Jim, glad to hear you're doing fine, but you must be getting bored of your Bavarian tourer!
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Originally Posted by Karl
Jim, glad to hear you're doing fine, but you must be getting bored of your Bavarian tourer!
The E39 M5 is a vehicle that never becomes boredom.




Look forward to seeing the sunbeam over the summer what a great plug for your business..

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Old 11-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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looking good karl nice to see it together dude, wiil be looking for a trip in it too. hope paul's pleased with it.
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Originally Posted by panelbeater
looking good karl nice to see it together dude, wiil be looking for a trip in it too. hope paul's pleased with it.
Easy neil u found any decent retro's in OZ
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loads dude what do you want mostly all 70's 80's jap and holdens with the odd few mk4 tina's riding around
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Get some pics up mate
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Originally Posted by Dingy
Get some pics up mate
i'm just lookin at a 1970 mk1 2 door auto escort for sale in melbourne bout 20 mins from me original with 50k on the clock one owner. i think if i put the price on virgin atlantic will have an influx of people booking tickets to oz.

oh sod it its up at 5,300 dollars that is
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Hi Neil,

Hope you're enjoying your "vacation" in Oz. Are you missing home yet?

Yeah Paul is very pleased with the result, we've chosen such a nice colour for it, modern yet suits the retro look!!
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Originally Posted by Karl
It's running around 540bhp for this year, a little up on last year, but the main differences are in the rev band. It's running the same short stroke bottom end as I use in my own car which means 9000rpm upper limit. As it comes on boost at 3800rpm it gives a HUGE power band which is essential for hill climbing and sprints where the car normally competes.

Mike, we had to change to the K&N due to technical issues with the ITG. Normally I have the ITG filters made with an internal plastic mesh to keep the foam cylinder rigid, however due to lack of room this was left out of the foam which promptly resulted in the filter collapsing on boost! Hence for now we're running the K&N until we can find a better solution.
Despite the 9000rpm upper limit, do you actually use this? I only ask, as mine was engine dynoed to 8500rpm, but for engine longevity it has been rev limited to 8200rpm. So I was just wondering if you regularly use the upper reaches of yours, or if it is just where it is "safe" to? If you do regularly use the upper limits, what are your views on how often you feel it prudent to top and tail such a rev monster?

I knew there would be a reason for the filter change - as I know you normally prefer the ITG ones. I hope the collapse didn't damage the turbo . When mine injested part of the panel filter that got nicked in the airbox lid last year, it fucked the impellor PROPER .
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Originally Posted by Karl
Hi Neil,

Hope you're enjoying your "vacation" in Oz. Are you missing home yet?

Yeah Paul is very pleased with the result, we've chosen such a nice colour for it, modern yet suits the retro look!!
glad he's happy, it does look stunning in the pics. yeah enjoying it over here, i do miss some things back there mostly the people i know, back on 24th july in time for totb if i need a ticket dude i'll ask mark to give you the dosh if you dont mind getting me one, prob try a catch a lift with you or olli.

keep at it dude
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Karl. Thanks for that, sensible way to go
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Hi Neil,

Yes I'll sort you a ticket for TOTB. We must get the astra sorted once you get back!

Mike,

Amazingly yes Paul does use all the rev band all the time! It's normally soft cut at 8800 and 9000 rpm hard. I'm sure you'll see yourself first hand if you get a ride out at croft with him! Paul loves the revs, and engine loves them even more!

With regards to engine freshening, we have found the engine to be reliable at these revs with no real issues as such. We do however change the exhaust valves regularly, but as its a competition car, I doubt it sees more than 2000 hard miles a year, though it does admittedly live a very hard life. I would be a fool to think it will survive indefinatly, but so far the rpm issue has caused no problems.
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Cool benefits of short stroke . I really hope mine will be ready in time, even just for this .
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Brings back memories of the Talbot Horizon we used to have years ago...


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