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Old 09-06-2008, 04:10 PM
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Default sub-500quid super economical lightweight smoker

as title.

dont want it to be too slow, but as i have no willpower at all it needs to be a car thats economical even with foot welded to the floor for 50miles at a time down the motorway.

i dont care what it is or looks like really, diesel sounds a good plan tho.

immediate thoughts were a Mk1 Clio diesel (my old dears got one, 1.9D, uses fook all fuel and not too slow, ideal) or AX diesel (as they look better and even lighter), as light means quick and decent economy.

anyone got any suggestions?
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get a diesel, old mondeo is ideal, and run the fucker on cooking oil
Old 09-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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i thought you had a old smoker of a mondeo & what about that BMW you had?
Old 09-06-2008, 05:11 PM
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pug 106 kid
poverty spec diesel
very quick for what it is
Old 09-06-2008, 05:25 PM
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givent he price of diesel id be looking for a ka or similar
Old 09-06-2008, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sidewayz
i thought you had a old smoker of a mondeo & what about that BMW you had?
mondeo isnt economical and wont pass the next MOT in a couple of weeks.

and an expensive flashy 2ton BMW isnt an economical car. so i sold it.
Old 09-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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Maybe something like a Nissan Micra? I know it ain't a derv but the one I drove and dad currently drives don't use fuck all fuel and 1.3 16v twin cam revvy as fuck was pretty poky!
Old 09-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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vectra 1997 di 2litre turbo?
Old 09-06-2008, 06:13 PM
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Citroen ZX Volcane TD? Motor well and mine was good on juice.


Even just a normal 1.9TD will be couple of hundred quid.

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Old 09-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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306 d turbo, paid £600 for my n reg one just over a year ago and ive had no probs bodywork may be a bit rough in the sub £500 ones but that dosent matter really
Old 09-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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Escort mk5/6 TD's were economical and have turbo lag - which makes them feel like they have some power when it comes in lol. Easier to fix/work on than the french stuff imo.
Old 09-06-2008, 06:40 PM
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205 TD paid 350 quid for mine, and its great, does 40+ mpg (as it is now) and scares gti's
Old 09-06-2008, 11:02 PM
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106 XND.

Get an M reg or older so it doesnt need a cat (one less thing that might need replacing )

I got one, 60 mpg, fits through tiny gaps, don't give a fuck if I ding it. Everything cheap for them. My cambelt just gone twang and with a reconditioned head I'm looking at £250 all together to fix it. Sweeet.
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i must admit for a monkey my personal thing would be german, prob a golf diesel, old passat diesel etc, and if i was budgeting that much it would run on oil filtered additived oil.

wife had a focus

petrol prices and all that i went out and bought her a 02 plate laguna, for 1500 quid ok its renault but very well specced, stunning alloys, half leather cd, air, sat nav etc, 1.9 dci 6 speed does 55 mpg in 6th gear at 70 mph, and if i say so a well nice looking car

i run it on alternative fuel, tank full costs 25 quid and i get 600 miles if im lucky enough

fook the goverment retaliate be wise, have aplay toy by all means but wife kids family smoking use ya head

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Old 10-06-2008, 12:25 AM
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citroen xantia TD or 306 dturbo all the way
Old 10-06-2008, 12:29 AM
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Fiat Cinqucento Sporting, seriously. They are decent little cars to rag about in. I picked one up with MOT and Tax for £250
Old 10-06-2008, 09:31 AM
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I agree with escort 1.8 td.

Will also run on bio fuel from your local chippy....he he
Old 10-06-2008, 09:43 AM
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Citroen AX diesels are great on economy, infact they are record holders!

Here is a quote I just found:

This came as no surprise, since it's predecessor the [Citroen AX] in diesel form held the record for the best fuel economy achieved in a production car, 103 mpg (2.7l/100km) - a record that still stands today.
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103 mpg in a citroen AX??
Old 10-06-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
103 mpg in a citroen AX??

Stuart Bladon established the world record distance for production car economy, covering 112.01 miles on a single gallon of diesel fuel with a Citroën AX 14DTR.

From here: http://www.gearwheelsmag.co.uk/aboutgearwheels.htm
Old 10-06-2008, 10:33 AM
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I ran a Pug 106 1.5D for a good few months.
Flat out it would do 90+MPH and return near 500 miles to a tank, 400 miles on veg. Never really let me down and was quite chuckable too.... if you keep momentum up
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Diesels make less sense at the moment with current fuel price of diesel versus petrol, but still just about come out on top, for economy though it HAS to be LPG, even if you need to stretch your budget a bit!
Old 10-06-2008, 10:47 AM
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:07 AM
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the only thing is, everyone wants diesels for under a grand these days, they get snapped up quick, so alot of the ones left on the market are the lowest of the low.

you might find one for £300-400, but at mot time it will need £500-£1000 spent! and the old clatterbangs like that wont like doing alot of miles. remember even when french/italian motors are new-ish, bits fall off, hinges come undone etc
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Anyone know if the 1.5 diesel Citroen engines are any different from the 1.4s?

I deffo want a diesel AX now, really like the look of the 3drs, and im astounded by what they weigh, or in fact, dont weigh!
Old 10-06-2008, 11:26 AM
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how about a 406 diesel, hopefull a HDI can be found in your budget? real good cars imo
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Originally Posted by ultimate sleeper
how about a 406 diesel, hopefull a HDI can be found in your budget? real good cars imo
An HDi for £500... where the fuck do you get them?
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Stav - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1992-CITROEN-A...QQcmdZViewItem thats a 1.4 one (1360cc engine) which I think is the one that set the mpg record.

This technology came from the PSA Peugeot-Citroën / Renault / French government ECO 2000 project. In 1989 a naturally aspirated diesel AX, using the 1360 cc all aluminium alloy TUD engine, managed a figure of 2.7 L/100 km (87 mpg–U.S. / 105 mpg–imp), totalling over 1,000 miles (1,609 km) from Dover to Barcelona. This was the longest ever distance travelled on 10 imp gal (45.5 L/12.0 US gal) of fuel and earned it a place in the Guinness Book of Records as the most economical production car.

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pug 309 diesels are cheap..
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Anyone know if the 1.5 diesel Citroen engines are any different from the 1.4s?

I deffo want a diesel AX now, really like the look of the 3drs, and im astounded by what they weigh, or in fact, dont weigh!

The engines ARE different. I cant remember the exact differences off the top of my head, but its the 1.4 you want.
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Rover 420d

absolutely brilliant!
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Originally Posted by snOOpy86
pug 309 diesels are cheap..
thats because they are shit
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Originally Posted by dojj
thats because they are shit
i never said they was any good tho just a cheap smoker..
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309's are great! brilliant handling cars and very comfy, ugly as hell unless its a gti though!
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
get a diesel, old mondeo is ideal, and run the fucker on cooking oil
only problem with that, is cooking oil is £1.20 a litre now.

Unless your on about filtering used stuff?
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Originally Posted by Graham S1
only problem with that, is cooking oil is £1.20 a litre now.

Unless your on about filtering used stuff?
Best way, my 205 runs on kerosene/filted vegi oil mixture, works out at about 70p a litre iirc.
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well then, i think we have a winner

the pug 205 diesel

less that 500 quid
super economical at 70p a litre for fuel
lightweight
and, if you are using cooking oil, it might even tick the "smoker" category as well
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consider it ticked!





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