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Old 26-05-2008, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
I didnt take it as a dig mate

The T4 I have is arguably stronger, more powerful and give these results with less backpressure than the equivelant GT style turbo.

whats the equivilant mate?? gt35?
Old 26-05-2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
whats the equivilant mate?? gt35?

The smallest GT35 is still rated at a higher airflow than a T4 so the closet GT turbo is still a GT30.
Old 26-05-2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
The smallest GT35 is still rated at a higher airflow than a T4 so the closet GT turbo is still a GT30.


ahh ok..
Old 26-05-2008, 09:37 PM
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rapidcossie - any chance of posting up a graph of your cars power and boost please?
Old 27-05-2008, 07:11 AM
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Euan it does sound like its doing the buisness power wise 350atw at 5000rpm with just 1.5 bar, but i was meaning more how early its on boost and the spread of the powerband. Wont find that out untill final cam timing has been done and the rest of the map finnished.


Euans power run graph for 502 that i found on another thread.

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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Test, dont guess.........

thats what we have done with my car and the results speak for themselves, my car is WAY more responsive than any similar power car AVA has seen on their rollers.

Keep an eye out for another revsion of the T4 on my car very shortly.
in what relation does ur turbo share with a t4 as a t4 dosent have a roller core the trims are all different aswell as the housings is it the bolts that hold it on to the manifold surely ur turbo is more related to a gt series 30 more than a t series
Old 27-05-2008, 09:43 AM
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Jay as far as im led to beleive the trim, exhaust housing , and shaft are all T4 spec . The front housing on mine and Euans is GT style for 100mm inlet but you can also get it with the standard size T4 housing.
Old 27-05-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NEIL A
Jay as far as im led to beleive the trim, exhaust housing , and shaft are all T4 spec . The front housing on mine and Euans is GT style for 100mm inlet but you can also get it with the standard size T4 housing.

ah i see
Old 27-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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Neil is 100% spot on as always
Old 27-05-2008, 01:35 PM
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nice graph that mind
Old 27-05-2008, 01:40 PM
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I like the 4k figure...308 at the wheels with another 4 thousand revs to go

In all honesty you very rarely have to rev it over 5k on the road.
Old 27-05-2008, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
You pissed Pete ???

Thats as bad as Dojjs spelling

Steve.

Getting giddy about big turbo's steve
Old 27-05-2008, 04:00 PM
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Spoke to CR turbo's today he gave me a price on a roller t4 and it seems reasonable altho i could save a couple of hundred quid getting an internally gated gt30. So i dont know which way to go, accordinfg to TT they say a Medium gt30 is maxed out at 475 BHP?
Old 27-05-2008, 04:27 PM
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Pete did you get a price for the full spec T4 with the extra housing mods, sure mine worked out around Ł1700 inc vat.
Old 27-05-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD Pete
Spoke to CR turbo's today he gave me a price on a roller t4 and it seems reasonable altho i could save a couple of hundred quid getting an internally gated gt30. So i dont know which way to go, accordinfg to TT they say a Medium gt30 is maxed out at 475 BHP?
what price did they give you for what spec t4 if you dont mind me asking, as im kinda thinking about a t4
Old 27-05-2008, 05:37 PM
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Yeah it was all in inc vat plus he did mentiom housing mod. Obviously i mentioned euan and his turbo. He went on about mike rainbird too. Think i got a good price as i am self employed in the motortrade.
Old 27-05-2008, 06:31 PM
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They are great turbo's Pete

Mike has a slighty larger comp housing due to his capacity of engine.
Old 27-05-2008, 09:04 PM
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where can i find CR turbo ?
Old 27-05-2008, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
They are great turbo's Pete

Mike has a slighty larger comp housing due to his capacity of engine.

What comp and cams you running euan?
Old 27-05-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD Pete
What comp and cams you running euan?


Ooooooooooh that would be telling
Old 28-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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Oh its a secret spec i see

pm it to me then, im not changing my spec now just curious
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Pete very much dout he will tell you but as your low comp with bigish cams it should work well
Old 28-05-2008, 06:31 PM
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Pete, if I told you the spec of my engine you would say It wouldnt work and I must have made a mistake.

My engine is an all round packge that has involved alot of testing to get wehere it is now.

Needless to say I think its an awesome package with a fantastic comprimise between power and driveabilty
Old 29-05-2008, 12:17 AM
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Right i have decided to go for a aet gt30 hybrid internal wastegate setup, same units supplied to mad giving around 540 bhp on some of there engines......hopefully it will work for me
Old 29-05-2008, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RWD Pete
Right i have decided to go for a aet gt30 hybrid internal wastegate setup, same units supplied to mad giving around 540 bhp on some of there engines......hopefully it will work for me
Keep us updated
Old 29-05-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sygjim
where can i find CR turbo ?
http://www.crturbos.co.uk/
Old 29-05-2008, 10:03 AM
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Gt3076 whit 63exhaust going on my new engine, this whit 2wd manifold and extern wastegate
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Originally Posted by Billabong
thanks
Old 29-05-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Pete, if I told you the spec of my engine you would say It wouldnt work and I must have made a mistake.

My engine is an all round packge that has involved alot of testing to get wehere it is now.

Needless to say I think its an awesome package with a fantastic comprimise between power and driveabilty

Sounds like theres a lot of time and sffort gone in and thats what its all about, trying different approches and seeing what works for you.


With a bit of luck i'll be chasing you
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Originally Posted by RWD Pete
Right i have decided to go for a aet gt30 hybrid internal wastegate setup, same units supplied to mad giving around 540 bhp on some of there engines......hopefully it will work for me

No they dont, The best I have seen is 520hp on a trick long rod engine,
And 500hp and 500ftlbon my normal spec engine.

Mark
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how does the graph compare for a 500/500 engine to euans one mark
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Originally Posted by glancy2081
how does the graph compare for a 500/500 engine to euans one mark
I havent looked at his and you cant compare a engine dyno/Superflow to AVA RR unless you have run on both,
From what I have seen AVA do the same type static load hold revs and biuld boost,
If you search you will find one of my older spec engines showing 500hp and over 485ftlb on a Dyno dymanics RR which is done on a 3rd gear accelerated power run so you dont biuld the same low rpm boost as the others above.

Mark
Old 29-05-2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
No they dont, The best I have seen is 520hp on a trick long rod engine,
And 500hp and 500ftlbon my normal spec engine.

Mark

Thanks for clearing that up, andy did say mark has seen 540 bhp on a well specced engine.

As long as it gives me what i want i'll be happy. And lets face it there not gonna be shit if you fit them.
Old 29-05-2008, 08:12 PM
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will a TT38 work on a standard engine?205 block standard c/r,mild porting!or is it better to staick with the T34
Old 29-05-2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
will a TT38 work on a standard engine?205 block standard c/r,mild porting!or is it better to staick with the T34

If you want more power then yes. Altho it will be laggier
Old 29-05-2008, 08:22 PM
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will it be alot more laggy on a standard c/r engine?mines on a .55 and dont really start boosting until 3-3.5 k
Old 29-05-2008, 08:24 PM
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its a 0.63 housing and compared to my mates 34 engine with same comp as me theres a fair bit of difference in spool up time. Wont be too bad on std comp with mild cams as my last engine were 8.5:1 on a tt t38 and that was full boosting by 4100
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I would imagine the GT30 would be similar in terms of spool but would lose power against the T4 higher in the revs range.

I see full boost around 3.5k onthe road.

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