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Old 13-05-2008, 12:50 AM
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my mates cossie died after he come out the petrol garage last night, im suspecting he's put in diesel, what damage if any can be caused by this? cheers
Old 13-05-2008, 12:58 AM
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Loads, big dent in the wallet. I did my company car last year, new engine, tank, pipes the lot. if he had not started it, then jus drain the tank, but once started its fooooooked.
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what will it fuck up though so we can drain tank then work through it?
Old 13-05-2008, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kingycos
Loads, big dent in the wallet. I did my company car last year, new engine, tank, pipes the lot. if he had not started it, then jus drain the tank, but once started its fooooooked.
Did you put diesel in a petrol or petrol in a diesel?
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petrol in a diesel........... Is damage not as bad?
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i suspect his put diesel into his saff cossie
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Originally Posted by kingycos
petrol in a diesel........... Is damage not as bad?
if i remember rightly petrol into diesel isn't as bad as petrol is easier to compress as its not as thick or something?
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First thing to do of course, is check that he HAS done what you think and put the diesel in.

Assuming he has, then next port of call is to totally empty the tank, then fill it with petrol, run the fuel pump for a few mins (connect 12v straight to it) to wash through the remaing diesel, then empty it again.

Then fill with petrol and hopefully it will be ok.

Very rare for any actual engine damage to occur.
Old 13-05-2008, 01:17 AM
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i'm guessing not only when he started it after filling, but also when it had died, he tried to get it to turn over a few times?
i think its time to get the hose, spanners and a bucket.
then a lot more spanners and the like for an engine rip down.
hopefully its nothing to do with wrong fuel!
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
First thing to do of course, is check that he HAS done what you think and put the diesel in.

Assuming he has, then next port of call is to totally empty the tank, then fill it with petrol, run the fuel pump for a few mins (connect 12v straight to it) to wash through the remaing diesel, then empty it again.

Then fill with petrol and hopefully it will be ok.

Very rare for any actual engine damage to occur.
cheers chip, what damage could be poss internally? as it was ran with it as he wernt aware then died out
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Originally Posted by Valacar
i'm guessing not only when he started it after filling, but also when it had died, he tried to get it to turn over a few times?
i think its time to get the hose, spanners and a bucket.
then a lot more spanners and the like for an engine rip down.
hopefully its nothing to do with wrong fuel!
what does it do to a petrol engine then?
Old 13-05-2008, 04:22 AM
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no need for any engine work, just drain the tank as stated above and flush the fuel pump, fill it with petrol and it should be fine, cant believe anyone could put diesel in a cossie.
Old 13-05-2008, 05:54 AM
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You are NOT going to cause ANY engine damage to a petrol engine by running it on diesel, as said just flush, you will NOT get all of it out as diesel is a oil and therefore is very sticky, so it will no doubt smoke a bit, but be ok after few tanks fulls.
Just drain tank through the large pipe between the pump and tank, the take off RETURN after you have put some PETROL back in put into a container, and run a seperate 12v to the pump, it will soon flush out ost of the diesel.
I accidentally put petrol in a diesel escort, no cat/ecu or anything and had to drive for 150 miles afterwards, let it get low enough to run out, changed the filter, refiiled with diesel ZERO DAMAGE, even had the pump checked, as heard lot sof horror stories about attacking seals etc, the DIESEL PUMP speialist I used said it was all bollocks about damaging fuel components, and indeed was in my case.
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Old 13-05-2008, 08:00 AM
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Who done this paul ?? not John?
Old 13-05-2008, 08:07 AM
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don't forget to change the fuel filter after flushing
Old 13-05-2008, 08:17 AM
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how did he manage to get diesel into a petrol cossy, the nozzle on the pumps are bigger so they wont fit into a petrol filler-neck.
Old 13-05-2008, 08:48 AM
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So, lets just get this straight, with the pump most probably announcing 'This is a diesel pump, are you sure your vehicle requires Diesel', he still went ahead and did it??
Old 13-05-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Who done this paul ?? not John?
no, well yes, but not that john lol.

i suspect he's done it, i havnt yet looked but to pull away from a garage with no power and just die sounded suspicious? cheers guys
Old 13-05-2008, 09:50 AM
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i still dont see how he could have got the diesel nozzle in, its not physically possible!
Old 13-05-2008, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by percybigun
how did he manage to get diesel into a petrol cossy, the nozzle on the pumps are bigger so they wont fit into a petrol filler-neck.
My fuel filler neck has no taper - it's just a great big hole that goes straight to the tank. Think most pre-'unleaded only' ones might have been?
Old 13-05-2008, 09:57 AM
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ahhh that would explain it then
Old 13-05-2008, 11:44 AM
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if he looks at his reciept it will show what type of fuel was purchased



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Old 13-05-2008, 04:19 PM
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If he drops a MATCH in the tank to test whether DIESEL or PETROL, he will know even sooner!!
As said up until the smaller UNLEADED only size all were the same.
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Old 13-05-2008, 06:06 PM
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he hasnt put diesel into it, he's damaged a valve and the plug so is a head off job
Old 13-05-2008, 06:09 PM
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how have you come to that conclusion that a valve has been damaged?

Diesel into a petrol also does foul the spark plugs...
Old 13-05-2008, 07:10 PM
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the spark plugs havnt melted,its one plugs that has been smashed and bits were removed from the cylinder with a magnet, its in janos hands now
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guy on a forum i used to use bought a brand new diesel focus, at the dealership, they put unleaded into it, he got a few miles down the road and it conked out - further inspection showed that the solvent petrol had completely ruined the pump (normally lubricated by the oily diesel fuel), sending shards of metal into the engine, completely writing off the whole engine.

I think its more of a problem on newer direct injection diesel engines than it is with older diesels.

If it turns out he has put diesel in his cos, just do as tabetha says
Old 14-05-2008, 12:30 AM
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it was def petrol, just disaster had struck, with hot charge temps etc ragging it around isnt good
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