VW 20 V turbo tuning
29-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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VW 20 V turbo tuning
I know this is a Ford forum and I myself hate to see threads asking about other marques BUT i thought I'd ask anyway!
I would like advice from people with experience with these engines only !
The question is...
How do you get a mark 4 Golf GTi from 150 bhp to 200?
Use the 225 parts?
cheers
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I would like advice from people with experience with these engines only !
The question is...
How do you get a mark 4 Golf GTi from 150 bhp to 200?
Use the 225 parts?
cheers
euan
29-04-2008, 07:48 PM
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Yep aslong as its got a decent exhaust and intake it'll touch 200 with a remap, Revo is probably most common in the vw scene.
Getting upto 250 will require a turbo change, injectors and better intercooling....and thats pretty much it but thats pushing the 150 lump resonable hard.
S3 lump is pretty handy if you can find one or any BAM coded lumps.
Getting upto 250 will require a turbo change, injectors and better intercooling....and thats pretty much it but thats pushing the 150 lump resonable hard.
S3 lump is pretty handy if you can find one or any BAM coded lumps.
29-04-2008, 07:50 PM
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Yep aslong as its got a decent exhaust and intake it'll touch 200 with a remap, Revo is probably most common in the vw scene.
Getting upto 250 will require a turbo change, injectors and better intercooling....and thats pretty much it but thats pushing the 150 lump resonable hard.
S3 lump is pretty handy if you can find one or any BAM coded lumps.
Getting upto 250 will require a turbo change, injectors and better intercooling....and thats pretty much it but thats pushing the 150 lump resonable hard.
S3 lump is pretty handy if you can find one or any BAM coded lumps.
29-04-2008, 07:58 PM
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my 98 passat has a chip and i/c and it´s just over 200bhp.
an s3 lump is the same as the 150 just bigger turbo and some wery minor changes in the cooling also.
A std lump can take 300-350 with no problems, just fit a bigger turbo i/c exorst and injectors
an s3 lump is the same as the 150 just bigger turbo and some wery minor changes in the cooling also.
A std lump can take 300-350 with no problems, just fit a bigger turbo i/c exorst and injectors
29-04-2008, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the info guys...
The car made 134 ATW today(standard) so its seems a good engine to start with.
So a chip will give it 50 bhp? though the chip maufactuers say more like 30?
Are the coolers expensive?
The car made 134 ATW today(standard) so its seems a good engine to start with.
So a chip will give it 50 bhp? though the chip maufactuers say more like 30?
Are the coolers expensive?
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29-04-2008, 08:43 PM
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hello mate i had my old 20v turbo golf done with the revo tech an it transform the car i did put a airfilter on it but it didnt seem any good so got a k&n pannel filter oh an changed the standard re-circ to the forge 007 one hope that helps ya
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29-04-2008, 08:45 PM
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Coolers coast about 150£ (china ones work great) and piping is 100£
IF he wants to go nuts, get the silicone intake pipe for the turbo also and maybe a turbo and injectors from the audi 180bhp then it will give about 220-225bhp
When it´s chipped you HAVE to change the dump, otherwise the turbo will spin itself to death
Misus car
It looks like shit, but works pretty well
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29-04-2008, 08:53 PM
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Bin the K03 turbo and stick on a K03s 
With a remap alone you'd have around 190-195bhp.
The bottom ends realistically the consensus sways towards around 330bhp, with the BAM engine being better for for circa 400bhp.
Getting the 225 parts to fit is awkward - the K04 is completely different to the KO3. a KO3 turbo will not do 250bhp. The KO3s struggles to get to 250bhp!
For just a remap, induction kit (you want one that puts the cooler behind the bumper) and a decent exhaust should see you passed 200bhp.
I remapped my Octavia vRS and its pretty quick
With a remap alone you'd have around 190-195bhp.
The bottom ends realistically the consensus sways towards around 330bhp, with the BAM engine being better for for circa 400bhp.
Getting the 225 parts to fit is awkward - the K04 is completely different to the KO3. a KO3 turbo will not do 250bhp. The KO3s struggles to get to 250bhp!
For just a remap, induction kit (you want one that puts the cooler behind the bumper) and a decent exhaust should see you passed 200bhp.
I remapped my Octavia vRS and its pretty quick
29-04-2008, 09:07 PM
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K03"s" as it is referred to is fitted to 180bhp variants
A standard K03 150bhp engine will realistically make 190bhp max. A decent exhaust (more importantly downpipe and low density sports catalyst) may get it over 200.
A standard K03 150bhp engine will realistically make 190bhp max. A decent exhaust (more importantly downpipe and low density sports catalyst) may get it over 200.
29-04-2008, 10:45 PM
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Remap, Induction kit and the all important chumper...
Spikes 20 holds 18.... goes pretty well... prob about 210-215bhp ish.
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29-04-2008, 11:56 PM
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I have an Audi A4 T Sport with e the 150bhp AEB engine. Witha a chip, drilled airbox and back box it makes a solid 180bhp and 200lb of torque. Not a rocketship but quick enough to be fun
30-04-2008, 04:36 AM
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K03s is fitted to all the variants apart from the AGU (early engines)
I've just had mine RR'd and without a remap it achieved 174bhp
That's still on the K03, stainless exhaust, de-cat, K&N 57i, Forge dump valve
I've just had mine RR'd and without a remap it achieved 174bhp
That's still on the K03, stainless exhaust, de-cat, K&N 57i, Forge dump valve
30-04-2008, 08:09 PM
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01-05-2008, 02:45 PM
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Or you could look at it the other way as in the performance 20vt engine is producing 225bhp standard
01-05-2008, 02:53 PM
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01-05-2008, 03:19 PM
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The honda s2000 engine. Mase has tuned a totaly standard s2000 engine with 120k on the clock to over 500whp. How many cossie engines could do that?
01-05-2008, 03:34 PM
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Is it realistically possible to get a genuine 500bhp out of a 2wd cossie with just a bigger turbo and fueling etc and completly standard engine manifolds etc?
01-05-2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Systems Website
450BHP
0-60 4.2 secs
FITTED APPROX £10,000
This conversion will have all the parts mentioned above including the formidable "Turbo Systems" built engine which includes the latest low compression Cosworth forged racing pistons with offset gudgeon pin, enabling 30psi of boost to be developed along with a modified head and new cams.
QUOTE
Performance Ford Magazine said, "This engine produced amazing bhp yet is more tractable than the standard unit" Car magazine recorded 0-160mph in 26.74 seconds with a top speed of 178mph with this car at Bruntingthorpe test track. Since then we have obviously achieve more and now we can reach the staggering speed of 188 mph on a specially designed engine that Tony alone can put together.
A full suspension set up to the customer's requirement is included in this conversion with the two-stage boost control or we can fit a 12-speed dial control in car boost switch from £120.
500/540/640BHP
FITTED FROM £20,000
Obviously these are major conversion, which we can price, but they are to the customer's individual requirements due to the cars often having a lot of the parts needed already fitted.
0-60 4.2 secs
FITTED APPROX £10,000
This conversion will have all the parts mentioned above including the formidable "Turbo Systems" built engine which includes the latest low compression Cosworth forged racing pistons with offset gudgeon pin, enabling 30psi of boost to be developed along with a modified head and new cams.
QUOTE
Performance Ford Magazine said, "This engine produced amazing bhp yet is more tractable than the standard unit" Car magazine recorded 0-160mph in 26.74 seconds with a top speed of 178mph with this car at Bruntingthorpe test track. Since then we have obviously achieve more and now we can reach the staggering speed of 188 mph on a specially designed engine that Tony alone can put together.
A full suspension set up to the customer's requirement is included in this conversion with the two-stage boost control or we can fit a 12-speed dial control in car boost switch from £120.
500/540/640BHP
FITTED FROM £20,000
Obviously these are major conversion, which we can price, but they are to the customer's individual requirements due to the cars often having a lot of the parts needed already fitted.
Really all he does is fit a bleed valve, as the standard engine is already good for 500bhp, then he charges the customer 20K, so its no wonder he can afford to run an evo and the depreciation of a prius
Last edited by Chip; 01-05-2008 at 03:50 PM.