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Old 21-03-2008, 11:05 PM
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Default Adjustable beams?

So who makes adjustable beams these days and how much are they?

It just Adrenaline? If so how much do they charge?

When set up do they improve handling that much???
Old 21-03-2008, 11:09 PM
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would be interested knowing this as well !what sort of power would u have to go to really need one of these?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:11 PM
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std power! Mike is probably the best one to answer this but my understanding is that ford did a pretty bad job of the rear suspension geometry as std and the 6° rear beam goes some way to solving this
Old 21-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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its not down to how much power you have to wether or not you will need one.

they align everything better at the rear end, alot of people say its the best mod you can do in regards to handeling, just as important as planning on fitting a decent coilover or shock setup.
Old 21-03-2008, 11:13 PM
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What does the 6 degree part relate to ?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:14 PM
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does reyland fit these then?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:15 PM
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Martoon can fit them if you need him to.

also Danny B or the ahmed rear beams.
Old 21-03-2008, 11:16 PM
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Would make a good addition to any car, regardless of power, and will make it much nicer to drive and far more predictble, and make it handle a lot better.

I paid Ł935 for my stage 2 adjustable Adrenaline beam, fantastic build quality and quick turn around, and very sturdy 7/8"th rose joints, I havn't driven my car with it fitted yet, but anyone who has one will tell you it transforms the car...

Personally Adrenaline is the only company I would use, Zoo- no way, and I have heard ahmed does a good rear beam as well? Or there is the group A items but they need a complete group A rear end I belive, and are only 9 degrees not the optimum 6 degrees....
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cool!ahmed beams i have heard off they are suppose to be very good! is that there user names on here?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:17 PM
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no ahmed at grove garage I belive, down your way I think.
Old 21-03-2008, 11:19 PM
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yer they are got my car live mapped for last year before going up in power and getting it mapped at nms!will have to give mark a call
Old 21-03-2008, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Would make a good addition to any car, regardless of power, and will make it much nicer to drive and far more predictble, and make it handle a lot better.

I paid Ł935 for my stage 2 adjustable Adrenaline beam, fantastic build quality and quick turn around, and very sturdy 7/8"th rose joints, I havn't driven my car with it fitted yet, but anyone who has one will tell you it transforms the car...

Personally Adrenaline is the only company I would use, Zoo- no way, and I have heard ahmed does a good rear beam as well? Or there is the group A items but they need a complete group A rear end I belive, and are only 9 degrees not the optimum 6 degrees....
Does the stage 2 have tubular arms or modded standard ones?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Does the stage 2 have tubular arms or modded standard ones?
modded standard ones, as my car will primarily be a road car, and as far as I am aware there is no benefit apart from weight saving for switching to tubular arms?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:26 PM
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Is the actual beam a modded ford one or made from scratch?
Old 21-03-2008, 11:36 PM
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modded ford, and depending on what you spend the arms are either modded ford or brand new fabricated items
Old 21-03-2008, 11:54 PM
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I know Johnny savage on here has an Ahmed beam on his Escos which has transformed it

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Old 22-03-2008, 12:39 AM
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Will whats wrong with a Zoo Beam i paid Ł1200 for the full WRC spec beam all rose jointed with Adjustable Toe and camber?

Does what it says on the Tin!
Old 22-03-2008, 12:42 AM
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Ben, i think a few of Brom's beams setups were not quite as perfect as they should be - there didnt seem to be any consistency in one beam to the next.

if you got a perfect one then thats pukka as you will certainly reap the benefits.

but some people have found that you could adjust the level of camber alot greater on one side than on the other.

im certainly not complaining as mine is also one of Brom's beams, its first class and been checked to see that it genunly is a true 6 degree beam etc and it came out spot on
Old 22-03-2008, 12:47 AM
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harvey gibbs will supply and/or fit one
i dont know any prices or actually who makes the beams tho
might be worth a phone call
other than that the others who have already been said
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some people have found that you could adjust the level of camber alot greater on one side than on the other
where did you here read or was told that kelv?

how did you have your beam checked to see that it genunly is a true 6 degree beam?

had mine setup at autotest where mike gets his geometry setup a few weeks back when we was at snetterton..
Old 22-03-2008, 12:56 AM
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Ben, im not going to name drop - but a respected person has told me the beams were as ive mentioned - and me and you both know this person and im sure you would trust his opinion and judgement as much as i.

My beam is Mikes old one.
Old 22-03-2008, 01:06 AM
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did you answer that question in reverse and mixed up lol

just the first i have ever heard any of that about broms beam just on all the Beam threads mike is allways prasing his "your brom beam"

have you had yours setup on the rear yet kelv?
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Will whats wrong with a Zoo Beam i paid Ł1200 for the full WRC spec beam all rose jointed with Adjustable Toe and camber?

Does what it says on the Tin!
Just Depends if you can afford an engine rebuild after your car has been there, jacked so steeply whilst running it runs dry of oil, then dumped down the road claining it wouldn't start.... ..... or if you don't mind your new alloy rad being swapped for an old one, or your drivers seat being replaced with a more worn one, as happend to a good friend of mine...

Also another friend had an engine built (6k), which turned out to be a drip-tray special....

So I can't really reccomend Zoo
Old 22-03-2008, 06:16 AM
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I can definately recommend Danny from Adrenaline. He will go out of the way and doesn't mind dealing with customers overseas. (unlike a few which put us in the too hard basket!)
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I have a full ZOO beam setup including jag diff and upgraded prop shaft and drive shafts. I am having LOTS of problems and i wish i hadn't bothered to be honest. Thinking of removing the whole lot and chucking it in a fucking skip. Rant over.
Old 22-03-2008, 07:25 AM
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ahmeds are a grand.........and u need to give him ur beam (unless he has one on the shelf then it's a exchange)
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Originally Posted by saphycozzie-adz
I have a full ZOO beam setup including jag diff and upgraded prop shaft and drive shafts. I am having LOTS of problems and i wish i hadn't bothered to be honest. Thinking of removing the whole lot and chucking it in a fucking skip. Rant over.

Snap! Having the samee probs with cols car. Supposedly fresh built jag ltd slipper diff has turned into an open diff after 1500 miles.

Always worried about that beam since we first fitted it. It had two spacers on one driveshaft and one on the other. For no apparent reason.
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https://passionford.com/forum/showth...&highlight=wrc

Might be useful.
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Just got a fully rose jointed and braced beam cant wait to get it fittted and set up.
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Ben, im not going to name drop - but a respected person has told me the beams were as ive mentioned - and me and you both know this person and im sure you would trust his opinion and judgement as much as i.

My beam is Mikes old one.
Probably talking about someone different to you, but the person I know is MUCH worse than that, plus a LOT of stuff similar/worse than Wil has stated, and not only with ZOO either!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
did you answer that question in reverse and mixed up lol

just the first i have ever heard any of that about broms beam just on all the Beam threads mike is allways prasing his "your brom beam"

have you had yours setup on the rear yet kelv?
No mate, nothing muddled up there, just letting you know that my beam is Mikes old one.

and it wasnt Mike that directly told me that, although he has passed comment on them in a similar way during conversation in the past!

not had it setup, seems kind of pointless having a suspension setup when the car isnt at full weight yet! (ie, no engine, box, diff's and interior!!)
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
What does the 6 degree part relate to ?

Kev, I believe it refers to the angle between the beam and the arms.

Std item was either 18 or 22 IIRC
Old 22-03-2008, 10:39 AM
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I just got mine from Harvey





I was shown a Zoo beam where all the Rose joints had seized and one arm was different to the other
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How much was that Paul ?

PM if you like
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Kev, I believe it refers to the angle between the beam and the arms.

Std item was either 18 or 22 IIRC
Thanks james.
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Danny beams are lovely, very nicely made!

Cant comment on others as I've not seen them, But Paul Rips looks good too, 909 parts
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Mine was so badly setup from Zoo when i got it for camber etc that i had it professionally done and the croc of shit wouldn't even adjust enough to be setup correctly. Whats the point of that then? An adjustable beam that that only adjusts to bad setting. FFS. Oh yes and my car now has lots of noise and vibrations anything over 65mph despite altering it from SOLID mount to being rubber bushed. Waste of time and cash.
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What did you solid mount on yours mate ?
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Kelv: Makes sence

I must have been lucky then didnt know they was that bad!
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Sounds like it should be Adrenaline everytime then!


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