Sooo Phil not hating BUT where does your knowledge come from ??

 

Rod,
To be fair, you're comparing apples and oranges again. On your top speed runs, you're running NOS AND 120 RON fuel. With the cooling effects of this set up you can almost run what c/r you like . However, will you be holding the car flat out with just normal super on a top speed run?


Danny,
It's a date . And don't worry, you won't have to fend me off unless you have large breasts and no dangly bits between your legs .

In the meantime, get some pics up NOW!

 

Listening to who i deal with mate...thats why i am all over the place as everyone has different methods!..Chip just reads all day on the net/books pre net...he is online 24/7...so the vast info he can absorb is mind bending..i prefer to talk to real humans and muck around with the actual car.

 

Thats exactly your problem, you are too stupid to understand WHY people are doing things, you only see 1 small element of what they do and think it applies to everything, so if you see a rally cross car running over 9:1 compression on short gearing and hot fuel, you are dumb enough to think that makes its a good idea on ALL engines, and dont realise the implications of it.

Phil thats very true actually, I do spend a lot of time absorbing information, not just about WHAT people do but more importantly WHY people do it, then I take that understanding, test it out with experimentation for myself, and learn about the whole picture from the combination of the two.
Thats the exact same process that anyone with a scientific mind does to get a thorough understanding of things, and in fact is exactly the same process that every tuner you respect will have gone through, and not just tuner's either, people who are good at pretty much ANYTHING scientific in life, that process is called LEARNING, being educated gives you that set of skills in the first place.

You though DONT have those basic skills needed to learn, what you do is repeat half of something, without actually learning its meaning, or try something, and not understand why it does or doesnt work, so wether you are reading, or doing, in both cases, you fail to actually understand.

If you have ever seen only fools and horses where Derek Trotter throws in a few random and innapropriate words of french to a conversation, THAT is you with engines that is

 

Phil,
The problem with that is you cannot take a little bit of each person's opinion and then amalgamate all the different ideas into a working engine - it will just end up being an abortion. You have to commit to one way of doing it and follow all the methods to make that way safe.

 

..Very good Chip,but you know full well i know everything about the YB and because i am onto you..you spout more internet bollocks

Just because my personal preference for a ROAD car is high comp Of course i understand a rallycross derestricted car is on race fuel to produce such BHP I have never said that 9-1 and 700bhp is for the road..i said 600bhp and 8.5-1 is the limit on road fuel..and no i wouldnt do top speed runs in a high comp motor...its point and suirt..ie road car.

If i was building a track car i'd be std comp on greys on T34

Pure road car...9-1/greys/T34

Top speed car...7-1 1000cc inj GT42ish


I hope you learn from my knowledge Chip.

 

Fuckinghell, that was another long day at work arguing Chip

 

Mate, Im confident Ive learnt more about mental illnesses in practice from you, than I did from any of the psychology I did on my degree

Ive heard about "god complexes" where people with illnesses like Schizophrenia think that they are the new mesiah and that the voices in their head that they hear is god himself talking to them etc, but Ive never actually known anyone who demonstrates it quite a thoroughly as you do

 

I did think I should text you at midnight when I left work to let you know that I was going as I know how keenly you follow my movements

For the record, im currently thinking about dragging my arse out of bed to pop into the office, so i'll be there again soon, shall I drop you a PM when I arrive so you can write it up in your diary?

 

So to be fair your advice is really based on who's info you choose to believe??

 

A bit dangerous when Stav has already acknowledged that lots of tuners feed people wrong information to mis-direct them .

 

Mike, it's fairly common practice it seems, mostly as people love high comp so saying a car is mega high comp helps sales.
Cam's R34GTR was 7.5:1 comp IIRC as he specified he wanted big power/boost on pump fuel, but the tuner flatly denies they would ever lower the compression.
Also LOADS of them give it the "8.5:1 pistons" etc, and dont mention the fact the combustion chambers have been enlarged, lol.
Dont know of any in Cossie world, but it happens in the tuning world a fair bit, thats for sure.

Chip, no its fine, although its quite a feat, im sure ill be able to keep up your 2 posts per hour average every hour 24hrs a day for the last 7 days when I come on here

 

Stav, so having established (at a quite surprisingly high amount of interest to you it would appear for no reason I can fathom) that I post on the forum only occasionally in my own time, and that I post on the forum mainly when ive got spare time at work, the big question remaining, is that all these big arguments you keep wanting to create all the time, when do they happen for YOU.

Now the way I see it, you keep going on about how people who spend their spare time on the net are saddo twats with no life, so it CANT be in your own time as a general rule of thumb, or you would be the biggest hypocrit to have ever been on the net, especially as at the same time as posting in your own time you are pretending to people you think its sad to do so and have far better things, and then at the same time as you are pretending to do that, you are having sigs like "why pretend to be something on the net that you arent"

So I would say that TOTALLY rules out you doing it in your own time, as im SURE you arent really THAT sad/hypocritical.


So that means you must be having all these long drawn out arguments during work time, but the weird thing there, is that doesnt really make much sense either, cause from what little I have seen of people who work in the offices at future (something I dont do obviously as what little work I do for them is always "freelance" in nature) people actually ARENT allowed to spend hours and hours socialising/arguing on the net.
Sure you are allowed to use forums in your job as it is a vital bit of research on what cars are out there, but the suits would be horrified to think that instead of doing research or anything work related, you are instead having long drawn out gay arguments which are of NO commerical value to future publishing.


So that doesnt make sense either, as that would potentially be risking your career over it surely?


So which is it? Shall i do what you are doing and go back and compile a massive list of all your gay internet social/arguing posts like you have done for me the next time I have a few hours spare, and then see if they are all in your time you are meant to be using the net for research at work, or if they are all in the time you reckon you are out leading a fullfilling social life not online? (on ALL the fourms you use I mean, not just this one, which is only a tiny part of it for you obviously)

 

Mike i trust who i speak too

...Reyland i do actually practice what i preach though unlike some who seem online 24/7 and go on about things they have no idea about..only thru what they read...i mean i am out there now rebuilding(except for a tea break )

Chip i let you and everyone think of me how I want you to think of me..because i am in control more than you know...thats the difference between me and you..i percieve myself to be a cock..you Chip are actually a cock.

 

Chips replies are tuning in to Ginge-spec length, and similarly, it makes you not even bother reading them.

All because I seemingly mis-understood what he meant

 

..so mike rainbird whats wrong with these specs of mine then?

 

Apologies if it was too long, will shorten it for you:


Do you use the net for all these gay arguments when you claim you are off having an exciting social life or do you use the net when future publishing think that you are in fact doing online research relating to your job???


Is that short enough for you to read

 

But you said they all had different ideas, so unless you stick with one person to listen to, how can you possible believe that they are all 100% correct .

 

Because it narrows it down too much, meaning that the car is a one trick pony . I want a car I can track, run flat out and be responsive for road use . I don't want to have three different cars to do three different things . Obviously everything is then compromised to enable this and I do accept that, but that is what engineering is all about - getting the BEST compromise to suit an all round car .

Also the MSD 1000cc injectors are flat out at 580bhp, so I certainly wouldn't be using just four of them with a GT42 (which is an 800bhp turbo in it's high flow format) . You would need huge injectors for this, or eight smaller ones.

 

Mike just because one tuner likes very high comp the other mega low comp dont mean either are wrong?..Alot comes down to mapping and how good you are.....refe cams loads of variations there but i trust that for 500bhp+ a bd16 in and bd14 out aint too bad..you actually forget i have had most specs..not for long as i get bored once done..but i still have driven many variations..and i can tell you 7-1 comp with a T4 and bd10 cams is utter SHIT

 

Mike....oh dear..MSD 1000's can do 650 + as i had Rods old ones + i never said how many..

...I have a Merc that can do everything...so a prefer i more one horse car

 

You're contradicting yourself, as one minute you're saying it's all down to the map, and then you're slating a set up that was running an off the shelf chip (where anyone in their right mind would have it live mapped) . You can't have it both ways .


Well they're at 88% duty cycle on my engine and nowhere near 650bhp .

 

..and i trust Karl Norris to be one of the best out there. Off the shelf by a good mapper is no wories..remember i have all the monitering gear.

 

ps mike can you phone Harvey and then reply to my breather post!

 

Mike, to Phil an engine is just a few things bolted together, he isnt then capable of understanding enough about how they interact with each other.
You really do appear to be wasting your time, although fair play to you for your persistance, ive seen you trying quite hard for at least 3 years now to actually try and teach phil some basic theory from which he can get an actual understanding. Rather than him just repeating some stuff parrot fashion and think that means he knows about it, and it really does seem like its never going to happen.

10/10 for persistance though!

 

REALLY simple question for you then Phil, if yours didnt work very well, but other people's with a very similar spec does so, then what was wrong with your engine that isnt wrong with theirs?

 

Chip i am who i want YOU to think i am...remember it gimp

Me and Mike have history and you wernt INVOLVED....so kindly fook off

 

Phil, the only person greatly deluded about you I suspect, is you

 

..never compared mine to anyone elses...i am happy with the performance i get...could get better if mapped live and to theedge but i go for safety when asking for off the shelf

 

 

So it's hardly fair to slate it, when the map you asked for is the root cause of why it was shit .

Mind you BD10 cams with a T4 - WTF did you expect it would be like?

 

right, 1 last try to get some basic learning into your head Phil mate, and then i'll let mike take back over with playschool.


Some simple statements you have made in this thread:


1) Your low comp engine didnt respond well

2) It was on a "safe" chip

3) It could have been better if mapped


now those are ALL correct statements IMHO


However, given that you seem to "know" those things, can you not then apply those bits of information to your thought process when you say things like

"low comp is shit, cause mine was"

Can you not see that your "safe" map (ie one with no ignition advance, the very thing that is the absolute vital lifeblood of response on a low comp engine) was the reason that it didnt work.

you only had HALF the job done, if you had done the other half as well, it would have been night and day different!



Stop and actually THINK about what im saying here, even to you it should be a really "penny dropped" moment

 

I dont claim anything, im not the one posting over 350 times within 7 days (yes, posting every 30mins for every single hour of every single day for a whole week), thats you.

Please stop replying now, the pot calling the kettle black gets beyond silly after a while. Esp when the pot is so black he makes Wesley Snipes look like Michael Jackson.

 

Chip a high comp engine will always be far nicer to drive off boost than a low comp..dont you know this?

..low comp is not shit its just not needed on a road car imo..i have had many specs on the same source off the shelf chips and i know what i know...the best being a 7-1 t4 engine and a 8-1 t4 engine identical...the difference was amazing..i aint disputing you can make a low comp better to drive low down...but for my application it aint needed.

 

Stav,
Please tell me you didn't actually go and count them . That makes you as bad as him .

I hope you did count them properly, or Chip will come back with the exact figure to give you a .

 

T25 is all YOU need .

 

Stav, Ive never at ANY point told people they are sad for posting on the internet, so its not the pot calling the kettle black at all, I dont have any problem with it, only YOU do.

And it was YOU who brought up when I was or wasnt posting, so im just asking you the same question.

The problem is that you CANT answer it without either showing yourself up as a hypocritical twat, or admitting to your employers you are online starting really GAY arguements with me when you are meant to be doing research at work.

You must be proper kicking yourself for YOU choosing to take this thread down a route that is so hard for you to travel

 

Mike- Search last 7 days, it shows a number at the top.
Chip- Yeah, im dead kicking myself Because I forced you to talk like a condecending twat over and over instead of just explaining what you really meant when i asked a question about something i didnt get Right-o
Your the type of person who would prob try and grass me up to work for posting too as if they dont know, usually having a good laugh about it

You will reply to this as you have an OCD where you need to post last, but that will do for me, you win

 

Abslutely, of course I know that, and in fact more than just knowing that, I actually know WHY that is the case, (although i also know why its NOT to the massive extent you think it is cause of your terribley mismatched spec for what you were doing) but FAR more importantly I also know that a turbo engine will be far nicer to drive on boost than off, dont YOU know this?

Why are you speccing a turbo motor around what it drives like when off boost? And you arent even doing doing that properly of course!

As why are you using hot cams for a car you want to drive around at 2000rpm off boost, dont you know that it would drive nicer on standard cams?

 

LMAO @ you CANT answer because YOU have realised what a twat it will make you look either way if you do, so now you tell people (despite the fact you quite reguarly are involved in massive gay multi page arguments for NO point yourself, that THEY have an OCD if they reply) I dont have an OCD, I just find you spending your whole life pretending to be something you arent, whilist at the same time bitching at other people for doing exactly that to be massively funny

Whats next, are you going to start saying "I know you are but what am I?"

Or are you going to finally have the sense to realise that other people you work with could be reading this and yet again see what you are doing when you are meant to be working