compression struts on a road car
07-02-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
1) Bolts are not supplied with top mounts Dan so it may have been a mis match or something YOU used that maybe caused them to snap ? All the bolt is used for is to hold the top mount in position not to take any load 
And as those are not supplied why knock the top mount ??
2) Cut and shut welded is one of the reasons why I have moved on to the the fully CNC machined single piece solid billet bar type. That costs us more in the long run but it will bend way before it would ever get the chance to snap. There is no welding to break.
3) Doh an ARB wont STOP body roll, that is down to a combination of springs and dampers. I'd guess your Konis were an unspecified road set-up ? If your mate builds rally cars he shouldnt be building them to road spec unless its going to be a road rally car, in which case sometimes those mods are bend
And as those are not supplied why knock the top mount ??2) Cut and shut welded is one of the reasons why I have moved on to the the fully CNC machined single piece solid billet bar type. That costs us more in the long run but it will bend way before it would ever get the chance to snap. There is no welding to break.
3) Doh an ARB wont STOP body roll, that is down to a combination of springs and dampers. I'd guess your Konis were an unspecified road set-up ? If your mate builds rally cars he shouldnt be building them to road spec unless its going to be a road rally car, in which case sometimes those mods are bend
all i meant was that when i tried to remove them the bolts sheared - but that is cos i used ones from halfords, not hi tensile ones like i should have - should have made that clearer.
i will order the compbrake bits as soon as i have some cash, the look very nice bits of kit
would it wtill be worthwhile fitting the top mounts too, as some people say you need to cut off the sus turret and weld on a flat ring to mount them, as the std turret is not flat - but we didnt have any probs on the drifter.
it just means drilling some more holes and getting rid of my carbon top mounts
07-02-2008, 08:50 AM
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im about to go into a meeting all day, but ill dig out the pics when i can
not much to see really, had to drill holes in each turret to fit them, and you cant really see a lot lol
should be pics in one of last years ff mag, near the begining of the year iirc
not much to see really, had to drill holes in each turret to fit them, and you cant really see a lot lol
should be pics in one of last years ff mag, near the begining of the year iirc
07-02-2008, 09:48 AM
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Be careful when using the compression strut kits , the fitment to a std TCA by such a tight bolt limits suspension travel especially if fitted whilst in "Droop ", add to that the rose joint on the other end has avery small circle of travel and you have recipe for disasters if not fitted correctly .
Careful thats all .
Careful thats all .
07-02-2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Be careful when using the compression strut kits , the fitment to a std TCA by such a tight bolt limits suspension travel especially if fitted whilst in "Droop ", add to that the rose joint on the other end has avery small circle of travel and you have recipe for disasters if not fitted correctly .
Careful thats all .
Careful thats all .
Cheers
07-02-2008, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
the new compbrake compression struts and adjustable tca's
..................when you've got it all fitted and need to set up the camber & toe-in/out, let me know please.......I have some hardware that you can borrow to make the job easy.
07-02-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
the new compbrake compression struts and adjustable tca's
..................when you've got it all fitted and need to set up the camber & toe-in/out, let me know please.......I have some hardware that you can borrow to make the job easy.
im sure i will take you up on that offer!
is it hard to do lol?
07-02-2008, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Be careful when using the compression strut kits , the fitment to a std TCA by such a tight bolt limits suspension travel especially if fitted whilst in "Droop ", add to that the rose joint on the other end has avery small circle of travel and you have recipe for disasters if not fitted correctly .
Careful thats all .
Careful thats all .
Cheers
07-02-2008, 08:37 PM
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I have tca's Compression struts and excentric spherical top mounts to fit so I hope there all ok 
Here are some pics of what I beleive to be the rally design front mounted arb
Here are some pics of what I beleive to be the rally design front mounted arb
07-02-2008, 08:44 PM
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im running compresion struts,adjustable tca's and blade antiroll bars and alloy adjustable top mounts
not sure on the makes of any of the parts ,but all were needed to get very accurate 4 wheel alighnment / car will be used for road and track
must admit a bit OTT for the road ,but due to the mods on the shell i think they were needed
the car now handles and drives like a dream
not sure on the makes of any of the parts ,but all were needed to get very accurate 4 wheel alighnment / car will be used for road and track
must admit a bit OTT for the road ,but due to the mods on the shell i think they were needed
the car now handles and drives like a dream
07-02-2008, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Be careful when using the compression strut kits , the fitment to a std TCA by such a tight bolt limits suspension travel especially if fitted whilst in "Droop ", add to that the rose joint on the other end has avery small circle of travel and you have recipe for disasters if not fitted correctly .
Careful thats all .
Careful thats all .
Cheers
what do you mean having the rose joint exactly halfway between? just make sure its not twisted on the centre part when its all bolted up?
so it looks kinda like this in the brakcet [|] not like this [/] or [\]?
if you get me
07-02-2008, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by L8 ECU
What do we think of this set-up?
08-02-2008, 08:20 AM
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i looked on the rally design website and their bladed arb kits is £100, but doesnt come with the rosejoined links (well, theu aint in the pics anyway)
how much do these usually cost?
not goingt to get one just yet as ill get the fooking car running first lol, then see in the future
how much do these usually cost?
not goingt to get one just yet as ill get the fooking car running first lol, then see in the future
08-02-2008, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont like the concept of losing the ARB totally on a road car.
I've disconnected mine on the sunny and it drives loads better now!
Helped with the understeering issue that it had alot better
And on a road car I dont like very very hard suspesnion, which rules out controlling roll via spring rates, so an ARB is the only way to get a road car to handle well without sacrificing ride IME.
08-02-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont like the concept of losing the ARB totally on a road car.
I've disconnected mine on the sunny and it drives loads better now!
Helped with the understeering issue that it had alot better
And on a road car I dont like very very hard suspesnion, which rules out controlling roll via spring rates, so an ARB is the only way to get a road car to handle well without sacrificing ride IME.
also not planning on using it every day, so im sure ill get on ok with it
08-02-2008, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Be careful when using the compression strut kits , the fitment to a std TCA by such a tight bolt limits suspension travel especially if fitted whilst in "Droop ", add to that the rose joint on the other end has avery small circle of travel and you have recipe for disasters if not fitted correctly .
Careful thats all .
Careful thats all .
Cheers
what do you mean having the rose joint exactly halfway between? just make sure its not twisted on the centre part when its all bolted up?
so it looks kinda like this in the brakcet [|] not like this [/] or [\]?
if you get me
That would have taken me three paragraphs
08-02-2008, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan@FastFord
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looks good mate, how much was that tho lol?
purplemonster
sweet, is it finished yet?
looks good mate, how much was that tho lol?
purplemonster
sweet, is it finished yet?
09-02-2008, 12:25 AM
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FAO Nuts RS, can you stick some pics up of the TCA's and compression truts correctly assembled please mate? i have them on my Escort but I'm not 100% sure they are fitted correctly, the bit I'm worried about is the front join on the comp strut, should it be vertical, as the only way I can get it to sit in a straight line is at about a 45 degree angle
i have them on my Escort but I'm not 100% sure they are fitted correctly, the bit I'm worried about is the front join on the comp strut, should it be vertical, as the only way I can get it to sit in a straight line is at about a 45 degree angle
09-02-2008, 12:50 AM
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That end does not matter it can be vertical horizontal or anywhere in between as its nipped up tight. As long as the r/j is centered at the other end it will be fine.
I often set them up like this \ / so I can instantly tell if they have been modified.
I often set them up like this \ / so I can instantly tell if they have been modified.
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